dr. dre the chronic 2 session break down

[MontrealCity's Most]

interesting shit about Death row and ice cube and dre

[Blasphemy]

So what about the Toss It Up (OG) that has been on several internet projetcs, where the beat sounds similar to No Diggity?  Is it the framework of what Dre sold to TR, or a Dante remix?

from an ultra rare DR promo, its the original beat dre created while still on tha row. maybe dre gave it to pac or pac just took it after dre left

Yeah, Dr. Dre (even though the riff between him and Tupac was starting to get worse, Dr. dre took credit for a Daz beat if I remember correctly and Tupac didn't like that).It was suppose to be Dr. Dre's 1 contribution to the Makaveli Album, he left and sold it to the others, so that's why Tupac went off on dre in the song. The OG doesn't have him cursing on dre, it was a extra verse pac added because of what Dr. Dre did. Dr. Dre responded on The Watcher, and several Chronic 2001 tracks, it wasn't disses, but just explanations on why he did what he did back then.Their is a lot of stuff happening at that time. Dr. Dre felt Death Row was going from a business to just a bunch of niggaz doing retarded shit so he left. He couldn't get The Chronic 2 Poppa's Got a Brand New Funk ( I got the My life song off it and some others lol) off.The song Cali Love (which features 3 verses of Dr. Dre rapping, no guest) was given to Tupac (which a lot of artist were forced to give to also), he was basically tired of what Death Row did, but damn man.Him and Tupac made a good team even if they had work issues.

[Mietek23]

Chronic 2 sessions facts -

California love (ghost writer version) - j-flexx
California love - dr dre
Note - dr dre’s 3 verse version w/ roger from zapp.

Blunt time (ghost version) - j-flexx
Blunt time  - dr dre
Note - blunt time was recorded the same day as california love and was recorded at dre’s house w/ roger for zapp. Dre failed to give roger credit on talk box when it was released on aftermath compilation to avoid any problems with death row. Also there is no other version of this song (2pac, rage, sam sneed etc), if a version was done it would have been during the early start of aftermath and after death row.

“Back pay” (ghost version) - j-flexx
“Back pay” - dr dre
Note - very few people even know this song was recorded, if u happened  to be at dre’s house or j-flexx’s camp would know about this song. The song was going at certain females dre was involved with and had james brown’s “pay back” sample. This is one of dre’s best song at death row.


Aside from maybe another  2-3 songs , that was all that  was recorded for the chronic sessions. J-flexx was dr dre’s right hand man at time, he was doing “all” of dr dre’s ghost writing. drauma didn’t write anything for dr dre that was actually recorded until the aftermath thing popped off. a lot people tend to forgett dr dre had a really bad year  in 95 (jail, easy died, 2pac arrived, suge taking control of company etc). jimmy also didn’t help the session, he was always telling dre not to start on another gangster rap album. Also to clear any rumors about suge taking dre’s vocals off of cali love and replacing them w/ pac is totally false. suge did not even have access to cali love because after 94 dre did not ever record anything at can am only at his house. 2pac was invited to dre’s house for the only session between the two. The only songs that were recorded was can’t c me & cali love, nothing more. The only other beat that dre gave to pac was toss it up (og) beat, but was not recorded together. The beat was later sold to blackstreet.


Been there, done that - was not recorded at d.r. at all. The reason for suge having credit to that song was when dre first left, j-flexx and sam sneed camp also left with him. The first songs that were recorded at aftermath j-flexx wrote both. A dr dre track ( been there) and a solo song for himself that was originally intened to be on the aftermath compilation. After a while j-flexx realized the dre was not going to help him get out his dr contract, flex decided to call suge and try to work things out. Suge was cool with idea and flexx returned. As soon as he got to the office he told suge he had written the new dr dre single and before flexx could finish his story, suge went straight to interscop with paper work and received a fat check from jimmy. Dr dre was not happy!!!!

Keep the heads - again another song that was recorded around the same time, but this song was strictly recorded for the Friday ost . There is a ghost version with flexx that is a lil more explicit. I don’t think many people realize this song is about bitches giving head. Priorty made dr dre tone down the lyrics a bit for the radio version

Og to bg - was recorded before the chronic sessions even started. Good song though.

Props for the info +1

[eNgIeS]

from what I understand Dre didnt have a problem with Pac, & Pac was pretty much under influence of Suge. After reading not only interviews with Dre about it during the phase, after death & from reading Bruce Williams interview, Dre respected Pac's work ethic & enjoyed the work they did in that one session. I remember Dre saying on a video thats on you tube how he usually has to get artists to do multiple takes on there rap, but Pac laid it down in one go

Its a shame Suge had to fuck up everything, from 2Pac, to Biggie, to Snoop, to Dre, to Sam Sneed We all missed out on some classic shit

[Jaydc555]

Its pretty easy just to blaim suge but that's just ignorant.2pac was a grown man and knew what he was doing.It was just as much his fault as anyones

[eNgIeS]

Its pretty easy just to blaim suge but that's just ignorant.2pac was a grown man and knew what he was doing.It was just as much his fault as anyones

Yep I agree that Pac shouldn't have let Suge influence him so much. Hell if he didnt he probably wouldnt have died so soon after.

I blame Suge for the general fall of a record label just over stupid shit. & if its true he was involved in Biggies murder thats even worse

[LodiDodi]

So what about the Toss It Up (OG) that has been on several internet projetcs, where the beat sounds similar to No Diggity?  Is it the framework of what Dre sold to TR, or a Dante remix?

from an ultra rare DR promo, its the original beat dre created while still on tha row. maybe dre gave it to pac or pac just took it after dre left

Ok, its because I'm listening to the OG again and the piano used sounds kind of sub-par in terms of Dre's standards of sound quality.  Any thoughts on this?

[Blasphemy]

So what about the Toss It Up (OG) that has been on several internet projetcs, where the beat sounds similar to No Diggity?  Is it the framework of what Dre sold to TR, or a Dante remix?

from an ultra rare DR promo, its the original beat dre created while still on tha row. maybe dre gave it to pac or pac just took it after dre left

Ok, its because I'm listening to the OG again and the piano used sounds kind of sub-par in terms of Dre's standards of sound quality.  Any thoughts on this?

A lot of the OGs are not finished.That's why some OGs are full blown songs or just 1 verse or a freestyle.Just depends how far in development it was taken before they either dropped it or stopped working in it for a new song. Some are finished some are not.Dr. Dre sold the beat, so I doubt he would continue working on it. Personally I like Tupac's version more, but that's because it was fully mixed.

[OG Hack Wilson]

I thought Teddy Riley produced No Diggity?

The beat was sold to Teddy Riley. Dre originally made the beat but he wasn't given production credits on the album.

explains why 2pac got so mad at No Diggity