Bone Thugs was right when they said Eazy didn't/don't get enough respect.

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

Eazy E should get respect for being a pioneer of gangsta rap. Which he does. But as far as 2Pac and Biggie go, they get respect for actually having talent and for coming out with classic albums and music that a lot of people can relate to. Eazy E didn't write his own lyrics, nor were they even good lyrics to begin with. His lyrics consisted entirely of either sex or violence and were very basic. He was a gimmick basically, who succeeded through his business smarts and surrounding himself with creative people who knew how to make music. But as far as being an actual legitimate music artist he fails.

[The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES]

Eazy E should get respect for being a pioneer of gangsta rap. Which he does. But as far as 2Pac and Biggie go, they get respect for actually having talent and for coming out with classic albums and music that a lot of people can relate to. Eazy E didn't write his own lyrics, nor were they even good lyrics to begin with. His lyrics consisted entirely of either sex or violence and were very basic. He was a gimmick basically, who succeeded through his business smarts and surrounding himself with creative people who knew how to make music. But as far as being an actual legitimate music artist he fails.

Concur.

[Jaydc]

Eazy E should get respect for being a pioneer of gangsta rap. Which he does. But as far as 2Pac and Biggie go, they get respect for actually having talent and for coming out with classic albums and music that a lot of people can relate to. Eazy E didn't write his own lyrics, nor were they even good lyrics to begin with. His lyrics consisted entirely of either sex or violence and were very basic. He was a gimmick basically, who succeeded through his business smarts and surrounding himself with creative people who knew how to make music. But as far as being an actual legitimate music artist he fails.

This.Im not sure what other respect hes supposed to be given.As a busisness man and pioneer he was great,as an artist,not so much.

[basefunk]

Bone thugs was right, Eazy E was under appreciated, just listen to the 'Its on dr dre'  ep, that shit was amazing, classic battle rapping and that 'real muthaphucking G's was a problem, it makes me ask myself if Eazy E really lost that beef!!!!!  Eric Wright rest in peace

[BiggBoogaBiff]

see you proved me so right with your igorance of how you think. . kool herc is the only godfather of hip hop . eazy-e was known as godfather gangsta rap & nothing more. eveything you say is bullshit opinion & not a fact at alll .so your thinking comes off like igonorant new schoooler & that is why you get treated they way you do by me/ sorry but you are so wrong about too short or 2 live crew not having as much influence as eazy e. see you are overratting eazy when you say that . too short & 2 live had the same amount of influence as EAZY e  & that is fact.alsostoo short madxe cuss word famous not eazy e at all .so get shit striaght becuse you are the one wrong . i have been listening & living hip ho since 1982 . so that means i  know more then you & seen it up close compared to you . ice t's music never sounded like house music with rap and cusswords. this jsut proves you are full of shit . ice t was original gansta rap style & west coast sound.also i never called you my son ,stupid ass . sorry but i do know you by what you write & it shows you don't know anything at all. that is fact you are going to have deal with . only stupid ignorant new schooler who only listen to main stream would write what you write . so save it ,youngster. eazy-e's music was never him anyways who was behind any of it .
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no i'm sorry, your wrong about all of that shit.  i'm just gonna leave it at my nigga Eazy was at the White House (so who had the bigger influence) and Ice T's music did sound like some funky ass ghetto techno i dont care wat u say, it was Hip Hop but definitely TOO house influenced. http://www.amazon.com/Rhyme-Pays-Ice-T/dp/B000002LC6/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1272985905&sr=8-8

*EDIT:  and let's not forget that BOTH of those albums (Rhyme Pays & Eazy Duz It) were both recorded and released around the same time in 1986 and 1987 so don't go jumpin' ahead of urself tryin' 2 make me look dumb.  i'm not a target.  And yeah right now i just googled this but Schoolly D came out in 86' nigga, around the same time as them also.  I think $hort came out in like 83' with his first tape and it wasn't even soundin' like tha shit he started makin' after Freaky Tales if i'm not mistaken and if I am it still doesn't make me wrong about Eazy.  $hort didn't even really get poppin' poppin' til the late 80's.

see you prove me right because you don't know that facts . i go by facts not opinions like you . so what if eazy e went to white house that don't make you godfather of hip hop at all  & also does not mean eazy had bigger influence. to be godfather of hip hop, you have to been the one who started hip hop & there is only one man that did that . that is KOOL Herc!. without kool herc there would be no hip hop or eazy e at all .  Rhyme Pays & Eazy Duz It were not made at same time at all. get your facts straight .  ice t's rhyme pays was made in 1986 & released in 1987 . while eazy-e's eazy duz it was made in 1988 & release in 1988 . so you are wrong again as normal .  yes ,schooly was out 86 . 2 years before eazy came out & 1 year before ice t came out . ice t & dr dre both have said schooly d started gansta rap & you don't know better then them at all.  go watch chronic relit DVD & you will be told . i am not at all jumpin'ahead of myself,tryin' 2 make you look dumb . you are do that to yourself not me . too short first big label album was born to mack & it came out in 1987 before eazy e's first album.   yes one year does matter alot & means eazy e did not start shit at all . instead eazy e jumped on bandwagoon called gansta rao     $hort didn't even really get poppin' poppin' til the late 80's?  so what eazy did not getting poping to late 80's too . so what . too short made the word bitch famous before eazy had album out.so your arewrong about eazy-e . sorry to hurt you feeling but your are 100% wrong & don't know the facts at alll. by that is shows your age & it means that you are not old enought to even know what your are talking about at all. stop overratting eazy-e . so face the facts you are wrong .

i stopped reading it after u mentioned Kool Herc (and then skimmed thru it) bcuz I knew what excuses u were gonna use and how u were automatically gonna shoot down everything i say bcuz YOUR truth is ultimately the only thing YOU KNOW and SEEN and u probably didn't even read all of my shit or even think about for the slightest second where i'm coming from.  But get tha fuck outta tha 70's son.  Yeah, Kool Herc is the FATHER (not Godfather, do u really know what that term means) and he did his thing.  But FACT is, Kool Herc was pretty much irrelevant after once he got on.  Yeah i havent actually really checked 4 this nigga but I'm sure I would've if he woulda actually made some noise.  He looped a beat and everybody caught on.  Okay, u did it first but what about everybody after you?  You can't give Herc ALL of the credit.

but as far as $hort goes, him and Eazy had TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT STYLES, so ur arguement is redundant to tha FACT.  If Eazy E was the "Godfather of Gangsta Rap" (for the record I pre-ordered that album so I already knew what he was labeled) then he is the Godfather of ALL of the Rap music that came after him.  "Gangsta Rap" is not a legitimate title for me, i feel the same way NWA felt back in the day, it's reality Rap, and ever since NWA (and Eazy E, as the LEADER of course) RAP MUSIC has went in that direction ever since.  So that term is obsolete.  Everybody from from KRS to J. Cole has rapped about a gun or two since then and that's the way it's always gonna be, no matter what the trend is.  

u know just this morning some old guy at Pep Boys tried to give me this "youngster" talk (about the usual; saggy pants and all of that) and I could tell I captavated his mind once I asked him to define "black" for me.  and he kept going on and on about what's wrong with the youth (u know, the usual blah blah blah that's been goin' on since the 80's).  it's me and him and only 1 other person in the store to catch that "early bird special" and next thing u know he's behind me and some other Rep comes up and asks who's next, next thing u know he just jumps up in line and takes my spot (whole time the other guy who was pretty much on my side, older guy with some gray hair is already in line).  so anyways, he's still preaching and assumes that he's got my full attention and mind (whole time i'm just like whatever, u probably r only doing this bcuz of some probation thing u probably got goin on), so then I said, "well u just got in front of me in line and ur preaching to me about what's wrong with the youth today, so ur actions just made ur teachings hypocritical to what u believe and next thing u know he was trying to change the subject but i just pretty much turnt the other cheek.  shit, back in the 60's and 70's Black Father's were abandoning their children at the highest rates (which is where the problem started, besides White America).  

^^

So with saying that, don't give me this youngster u dont know shit talk.  My Facts (which u call opinions) are based upon the results and NOT MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE.  Shit, somebody probably back in the 60's and 70's (and probably before) was cursing and rapping at tha same time about smackin' women and drinking beer (u know bcuz back then it was more socially accepted to abuse women).  I know what I'm talking about bcuz it's people like u who keep throwing up THE PAST in my face everytime the subject is brought up (and shit, most of the time y'all bring it up - like in my example).  Y'all just dont UNDERSTAND THE FACT that we don't share the same views and opinions y'all do, in turn that makes OUR (the younger) FACTS less factual.  Yeah, Schoolly D might've been the 1st to actually drop a tape with a whole buncha cussin and gangsta shit but it was Ice Cube and most of all Eazy E who made it what it was and what it is today.  Not everytime ur the first to set a public example doesn't mean ur the inventor of it.  Wale was the FIRST to use GoGo influenced productions but some1 is gonna come in and turn it in2 something else, in turn making it something COMPLETELY BRAND NEW and PIONEERING it.  Shit, I was the first person I've ever seen post youtube links for songs in posts and forums and next thing u know the Rap game changed a little bit and I started noticing people posting links to songs in their replies.  But I can't claim anything but tha fact that I saw/did it first (from all of the major web surfing i was doing back then, not once did i ever see it and i've been to ALOTTA sites and seen alotta shit i should'nt have seen and alot of shit i should've seen decades ago but anyways).  It's the people that/that'r gonna make it what it is and what it will be (Godfathering it so to say, making it n2 something else), all I did was (i feel) was spark some1's brain and give people an idea/a new light to brighten and make shine.    *4 the record u youtube muthafuckaz owe me some serious money for that lol* You'll never see me claiming anything, which is why u dont c Schoolly D and Ice T claiming shit (even though Dre and them give them all of the props).  It's not bcuz they're the OG's and they wanna play that role, it's bcuz they have to.  just bcuz it was similar doesn't mean it was something they created entirly, front to back-inside out.  And what about Cube and the CIA, they were makin moves back in 85/86 around the same time Schoolly D first came out.  Larry Davis was another cat too around that time doing it too and i'm pretty sure he probably never even heard of Schoolly D, that doesn't make him the pioneer of it.  I think Larry started that shit in 84' anyways... just food for thought.

Hutch, Dre, Yella, and Quik pioneered that WestCoast sound (fact).  The WestCoast sound was the beginning to a brand new ELEMENT added to Hip Hop to create what beats r today.  By having funky loops and more than just a DRUM LOOP and a HIT, they created MUSIC backdrop for Hip Hop.  Now Hip Hop has more than just Drum Loops and James Brown samples.  Of course there was production with (maybe) more than just a drum loop and a single sound but (Hutch mainly) made it in2 something more with producing beats.  And it was others after him who took the sound further.  So to say that Kool Herc is the Godfather isn't completely accurate (Bcuz Hip Hop for the past 25/30 years has sounded pretty much nothing like what he did, especially once P.E. got on.  If it wasn't for Eazy E, Hip Hop wouldn't be the same it is today, instrumentally and lyrically (say what u want but Eazy opened alotta doors for niggas in the trap but u dont even realize it).  

There's more way to many pioneers in Hip Hop to just give all of the OLD RAPPERS AND PRODUCERS ALL OF THE CREDIT.  Bcuz most of that shit they did back then *in the 70's/80's hasn't even been used since then, productionwise and lyrically.  

There's way too much more to say but this is enuff 4 now.  Bottom line is Eazy E made alotta shit happen for the game and it goes by just that unnoticed.  Do YOUR history nigga and stop tryna son me.  Anybody who makes it to tha White House (especially in the Reagan/Bush Sr. years) after ONE SOLO ALBUM and ONE GROUP ALBUM has a bigger impact and influence than anybody that came before and after him.  Yeah Cube wrote most of his shit when he first started and yeah he wasn't the best rapper but that's not what we're talking about.  We're talking about pioneering and who did it first, and Eazy E was the first to get on and make the game what it is today no matter what u KNOW or Dont Know about him and whatchu wanna give him props for.  Eazy E was that nigga and everybody wanted to be Eazy or someone from NWA at one point, especially the white kids.  Just bcuz maybe u and ur niggas didn't c it that way doesn't mean it wasn't what happened.  Him and them are the Greatest examples of Hip Hop pioneers, if it wasn't for them niggas woulda been kept on dancing and partying on records and (Which is funny considering all of the attention and hate those type of rappers get today).  They gave Hip Hop that RAW RAW HUMAN'S ARE ANIMALS TOO SOUL MUSIC that we always hear and that's something KRS One and P.e. didn't do and that's something Herc didn't do either.  Everybody was so happy (even Ice T went for a smoother approach to it).  Thank god for Eazy E and selling that crack rock and powder, if it wasn't for him Hip Hop would NEVER be where it's at, accept it or not.  Your reality isn't everybody's reality (and neither is mines but I know who came out and who did what and where they got with it).  

"Boyz N Da Hood" (written by Ice Cube and rapped and served to the public by Eazy E) has become the soundtrack to damn near every rap record recorded since then (even if they're lying).  If it wasn't for that then we would've got another 10-20 years of staight up "your headed for self destruction" songs.  Herc might've gave Hip Hop it's bones, but Eazy E and them gave it it's voice (the side of Hip Hop that stands out the most and is most used) and Hutch and Dre and them gave it it's sound.  You can't deny Eazy E and his impact, it just goes by so unnoticed and so un talked about and under appreciated that it's harder to credit the guy for actually being the voice voice of Hip Hop, a loud, wild, angry muthafuckin' nigga, and that's really all Hip Hop is, abuncha loud wild angry muthafuckin niggas.

[MediumL]

^ too long didnt read

[BiggBoogaBiff]

^ too long didnt read

my fault.  but there's too much being underminded and not talked about when it comes to Eazy E and just Hip Hop in general.  Read it little by little if u have to, if u care anyways.  not to say that u dont already but what I said has to be aknowleged and not ran over by the old ass chuut chuut train the grandpas try to use everytime.  i know one day i'll be grandpa but i'll always see shit for what it really is and isn't (thru books, living, and seeing it).

one thing i'll NEVER do is NOT pay homage.

[JohnnyL]

I think part of it, sadly, has been Tomica and Ruthless' awful handling of the estate... Pacs had how many posthumous albums? Atleast 5 off the top of my head, heck even B.I.G. who didn't really leave that much unrealeased stuff had 2... Even if it's just remix projexts, you have to do SOMETHING to keep the name out there. On the 10th Anniversary of his death, where was some sort of big name release?

they did this a few years ago:
Impact Of A Legend :
Release Date : March 26th, 2002
Label : Ruthless Records
type : LP/DVD
Tracklisting :
01. Intro
02. Eazy 123
03. Cock The 9
04. Switchez
05. The Rev (skit)
06. No More Tears
07. Ruthless Life
08. Still F**kem

Fail. Remix beats were garbage. A big name would have helped it a little bit, the producers they picked on here were just wack, period. Like bad. The guest features were so-so... and that's being generous. Unless Ruthless themselves step up to the plate and invite big name West coast producers to remix some songs, it's prolly gonna be like this for a while.

Bottom line his name just isn't out there enough... Big Pun and Big L get more love...

 I think Rhythm D produced the whole thing, and in Ruthless Records' defense, he did a great job on the tracks he produced for "It's On Dr. Dre, 187 Um Killa," so they probably thought he would do a comparable job on the production for "The Godfather of Gangsta Rap" e.p.  I think his work on "The Godfather of Gangsta Rap" e.p. was definitely far from his best work though.  I completely agree with you that the guest features were so-so, at best.  I think the problem was they were trying to make full songs out of unused fragments of Eazy-E songs, so they needed other rappers to fill in the gaps.  Where they went completely wrong with this imo though, is that they should have used rappers like Dresta, MC Ren, and Bone Thugs to contribute verses rather than a bunch of rappers from Rhythm D's label who had no history with Eazy.  That was a missed opportunity.  And they actually let Rhythm D cut an MC Ren verse out of the track "Still Fuckem" and replace it with one of his artists.  That's got to be one of the dumbest decisions I've ever heard of, cutting out a verse from an N.W.A. member, and releasing it with a verse from a no-name.

[JohnnyL]

I think part of it, sadly, has been Tomica and Ruthless' awful handling of the estate... Pacs had how many posthumous albums? Atleast 5 off the top of my head, heck even B.I.G. who didn't really leave that much unrealeased stuff had 2... Even if it's just remix projexts, you have to do SOMETHING to keep the name out there. On the 10th Anniversary of his death, where was some sort of big name release?

they did this a few years ago:
Impact Of A Legend :
Release Date : March 26th, 2002
Label : Ruthless Records
type : LP/DVD
Tracklisting :
01. Intro
02. Eazy 123
03. Cock The 9
04. Switchez
05. The Rev (skit)
06. No More Tears
07. Ruthless Life
08. Still F**kem

Fail. Remix beats were garbage. A big name would have helped it a little bit, the producers they picked on here were just wack, period. Like bad. The guest features were so-so... and that's being generous. Unless Ruthless themselves step up to the plate and invite big name West coast producers to remix some songs, it's prolly gonna be like this for a while.

Bottom line his name just isn't out there enough... Big Pun and Big L get more love...

3v3ryThing u just wrote was the truth.  RIP Eazy.  What I wanna know is why is there a movie about biggie and pac and now 1 about nwa in the works but there wasn't a movie about Eazy.  Eazy E is THE Godfather of Hip Hop, no1 who has came out since or b4 then can dispute that.  If it wasn't for Eazy, we would just now probably starting to hear cuss words go mainstream in rap music as a "new" way to market Rap towards/for the youth lol.  Yeah, he wasn't the best rapper and maybe u might think he didn't even have the best beats and so what he didn't write ALL of rhymes but 1 thing is FACT, Eazy E started this gangsta shit that everybody's been doin' since since (the style and everything), and it's truely an American Tragedy how his legacy has played out.  

Truthfully, when you're talking about Hip Hop how do u NOT mention Eazy E and talk about what he did for this game.

i agree with you that eazy e needs a movie but i don't agree with what you said about eazy-e being the godfather of hip hop when that is not close to being true . the godfather of hip hop is kool herk. also ice t was doing everything eazy e did way before him.all eazy e did was make gangsta rap famous but it was schooly d & ice t who really started this gangst shit . no we would heard cuss words in mainstream in rap music without eazy -e because of too short ,ice t , & 2 live crew. sorry but it was 2 live crew who was berhind the cussing not eazy in hip hop . see this shows you don't know you history at all  & only go by what main stream media told you . 2 live crew & too short were cussing & making a name before eazy -e . so know your history ,youngster because you don't.

 I think when people acknowledge Eazy-E as "The Hip Hop Thugsta" or the "The Godfather of Gangsta Rap," they're not basing those titles on merit alone.  It's sort of like when someone refers to Ric Flair as "The Nature Boy" or "The Dirtiest Player in the Game."  Those are titles that can't be definitively proven. (Point in fact, I don't think anyone can say with any authority what a "Nature Boy" even is)  But the titles are given to the person anyway, as a concession of that person's contributions to their respective field.
 I don't think anyone can argue with you the fact that Eazy wasn't the first gangsta rapper.  You're right. He simply wasn't.  But his contributions to the genre were great.  For that reason, allowances are made.  Even though the title "Godfather of Gangsta Rap" technically is not accurate.
 And I do agree with those who have said that Eazy doesn't get the credit he deserves.  I think his contributions to the genre are often overlooked.  While I agree that he didn't have the same lyrical ability as 2pac or Biggie, there is no doubt in my mind that if it weren't for Eazy-E, there never would have been a 2pac or Biggie to the extent that there was.

[BiggBoogaBiff]

^^^ yeah i guess i was feelin a lil' emo towards the whole thing but FACT remains people be forgettin or don't know exactly what Eazy E did for the image of Hip Hop.  After Eazy E it was cool to be ghetto ignorant and wild and just str8 up free.  The character/person Eric Wright was as Eazy E changed a whole lot of people's minds from what I've seen growing up.  Eazy E was like the "nigga nigga" rapper.  Of course there were others but no1 quite did it like Eazy did.  Just str8 up all up on TV and the radio actin' a fool and wyling out, best believe niggaz was taking notes seriously back then just 2 see what they could get away with.  Y'all already know the story/legacy of the song "boyz n da hood", the debate about Eazy E shouldn't even go past that.  That song turnt raw ground beef in2 fresh-hot double cheeseburgers

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

you're missing the point. 2Pac and Biggie get more love than Eazy because of their talent. Clearly Eazy E gave gangsta rap a unique image. Problem is that when it comes down to it, an image was all he was.

[JohnnyL]

you're missing the point. 2Pac and Biggie get more love than Eazy because of their talent. Clearly Eazy E gave gangsta rap a unique image. Problem is that when it comes down to it, an image was all he was.

 I think all three were talented, just in different areas.  I've got no argument against anyone who says that 2pac and Biggie were more lyrically gifted than Eazy.  When it comes to that, I agree.  But as a businessman, Eazy was a visionary.  You might say he had a talent for spotting talent.  And while Eazy may have seldom written his own lyrics, he always had the good sense to surround himself with very talented people.  I think it's for that reason that while you can't say that Eazy wrote dope lyrics on "Eazy Duz It," most would agree that "Eazy Duz It" is still a classic album.
 I do think that part of Eazy's contribution to gangsta rap was the image he portrayed, but in that respect he was great too.  You know you're doing a pretty good job "stirring the pot" when you start getting letters from the F.B.I. and constant coverage in the news.  Eazy even saw his "infamous" dinner with the President as a good publicity stunt, which actually I'm sure it probably was.

[StevenQBosell]

Eazy even saw his "infamous" dinner with the President as a good publicity stunt, which actually I'm sure it probably was.

Hell yeah, forgot about that shit. Remember when he was supporting one of the Rodney king officers (The one who didn't touch him and acted like "he wanted to go get help."

LMAO, only Eazy... R.I.P.

[JohnnyL]

Eazy even saw his "infamous" dinner with the President as a good publicity stunt, which actually I'm sure it probably was.

Hell yeah, forgot about that shit. Remember when he was supporting one of the Rodney king officers (The one who didn't touch him and acted like "he wanted to go get help."

LMAO, only Eazy... R.I.P.

 Lol.  Yeah, I remember that.  That one put him on the outs with at least a few people in the black community.  I remember Willie D from The Ghetto Boys called him a "hoe" for saying that.  I respect Eazy-E for having his own opinions though.  I have one issue of "Rolling Stone" where they interviewed N.W.A., and Eazy-E referred to Spike Lee as a "little bastard."  I don't even remember what the beef was, there.  But Eazy was definitely not a person that would just go along with something just because other people thought he was supposed to.

[StevenQBosell]

You from L.A.?