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Quote from: NIKCC on May 30, 2010, 01:20:18 PMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 30, 2010, 12:21:25 PMa bit of a stretch there lol but ok...top 5 player ever....lolLMAO@top 5 being a stretch when he's competing for GOAT status.He is competing in YOUR mind lol. Most experts didnt have Kobe rated a top 10 all time player prior to this year. Him winning his second title as the leader of the team I dont think will bounce him all the way into the top 5 lol But then again...Im arguing with a guy who thinks Kobe is better than Jordan (no Farmar).
Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 30, 2010, 12:21:25 PMa bit of a stretch there lol but ok...top 5 player ever....lolLMAO@top 5 being a stretch when he's competing for GOAT status.
a bit of a stretch there lol but ok...top 5 player ever....lol
Had a GREAT series....I'd go as far to say that was his best playoff series as a leader. He hit TOUGH shots, was consistent, used his teammates, and showed real maturity.If he plays like this in the finals, Celtics have no chance. He'll get his second playoff MVP and become a top 5 playoff player ever...
Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 30, 2010, 03:31:39 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 30, 2010, 01:20:18 PMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 30, 2010, 12:21:25 PMa bit of a stretch there lol but ok...top 5 player ever....lolLMAO@top 5 being a stretch when he's competing for GOAT status.He is competing in YOUR mind lol. Most experts didnt have Kobe rated a top 10 all time player prior to this year. Him winning his second title as the leader of the team I dont think will bounce him all the way into the top 5 lol But then again...Im arguing with a guy who thinks Kobe is better than Jordan (no Farmar).Pretty much everyone already acknowledges that Kobe, at the top of his game, has surpassed or at the very least matched Jordan as far as skill goes. If he wins 6+ titles, it would be ridiculous to not include him in the GOAT discussion.
Quote from: teecee on May 30, 2010, 11:21:18 AMHad a GREAT series....I'd go as far to say that was his best playoff series as a leader. He hit TOUGH shots, was consistent, used his teammates, and showed real maturity.If he plays like this in the finals, Celtics have no chance. He'll get his second playoff MVP and become a top 5 playoff player ever...michael jordanoscar robertsonlarry birdmagic johnsonbill russellwilt chamberlainkareem abdoul jabbarshaq o'nealkobe is never cracking the top 8
Quote from: NIKCC on May 30, 2010, 03:46:54 PMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 30, 2010, 03:31:39 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 30, 2010, 01:20:18 PMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 30, 2010, 12:21:25 PMa bit of a stretch there lol but ok...top 5 player ever....lolLMAO@top 5 being a stretch when he's competing for GOAT status.He is competing in YOUR mind lol. Most experts didnt have Kobe rated a top 10 all time player prior to this year. Him winning his second title as the leader of the team I dont think will bounce him all the way into the top 5 lol But then again...Im arguing with a guy who thinks Kobe is better than Jordan (no Farmar).Pretty much everyone already acknowledges that Kobe, at the top of his game, has surpassed or at the very least matched Jordan as far as skill goes. If he wins 6+ titles, it would be ridiculous to not include him in the GOAT discussion.LMAO where's the 5 MVP awards and 0 NBA Finals losses?
BROKEN MORE RECORDS? like what?11 titles? 3 MVP's in a row? 6 MVPs? 39,000 points? 100 points? 6 NBA Finals MVPs? a season averaging a triple double? what record does Kobe have that is more important than these?
1-kobe has also played during a time where the first round of the playoffs was extended to 7 games instead of being best of 52-jordan was busy winning 6 titles (and would have won 8 straight if he didn't retire) to score 100 poiints3-many people will always look at it as "Kobe could never win a ring on his own, until David Stern let LA rape Memphis in a trade" ya boy hasn't even passed ringless Karl Malone in my book yet
Quote from: NATAS on May 30, 2010, 09:05:16 PMBROKEN MORE RECORDS? like what?11 titles? 3 MVP's in a row? 6 MVPs? 39,000 points? 100 points? 6 NBA Finals MVPs? a season averaging a triple double? what record does Kobe have that is more important than these?Kobe has scored more career points and playoff points than most of those players and has more playoff wins, as well... and if he wins his 5th title this year, he will place third on that list, as far as rings goes, with a chance to move ahead...also, only person to score more points in a game on that list=Wilt The Stilt. Not even Jordan could score like Kobe can when he's on top of his game
Quote from: NATAS on May 30, 2010, 05:40:03 PMQuote from: teecee on May 30, 2010, 11:21:18 AMHad a GREAT series....I'd go as far to say that was his best playoff series as a leader. He hit TOUGH shots, was consistent, used his teammates, and showed real maturity.If he plays like this in the finals, Celtics have no chance. He'll get his second playoff MVP and become a top 5 playoff player ever...michael jordanoscar robertsonlarry birdmagic johnsonbill russellwilt chamberlainkareem abdoul jabbarshaq o'nealkobe is never cracking the top 8Kobe has already broken more records than most of those players.Quote from: NATAS on May 30, 2010, 05:40:57 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 30, 2010, 03:46:54 PMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 30, 2010, 03:31:39 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 30, 2010, 01:20:18 PMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 30, 2010, 12:21:25 PMa bit of a stretch there lol but ok...top 5 player ever....lolLMAO@top 5 being a stretch when he's competing for GOAT status.He is competing in YOUR mind lol. Most experts didnt have Kobe rated a top 10 all time player prior to this year. Him winning his second title as the leader of the team I dont think will bounce him all the way into the top 5 lol But then again...Im arguing with a guy who thinks Kobe is better than Jordan (no Farmar).Pretty much everyone already acknowledges that Kobe, at the top of his game, has surpassed or at the very least matched Jordan as far as skill goes. If he wins 6+ titles, it would be ridiculous to not include him in the GOAT discussion.LMAO where's the 5 MVP awards and 0 NBA Finals losses?The MVP award is a popularity contest...Nash has more MVPs than Kobe as well. you wouldn't say he's better than Kobe...or would you? LOL.
Quote from: NIKCC on May 30, 2010, 09:00:46 PMQuote from: NATAS on May 30, 2010, 05:40:03 PMQuote from: teecee on May 30, 2010, 11:21:18 AMHad a GREAT series....I'd go as far to say that was his best playoff series as a leader. He hit TOUGH shots, was consistent, used his teammates, and showed real maturity.If he plays like this in the finals, Celtics have no chance. He'll get his second playoff MVP and become a top 5 playoff player ever...michael jordanoscar robertsonlarry birdmagic johnsonbill russellwilt chamberlainkareem abdoul jabbarshaq o'nealkobe is never cracking the top 8Kobe has already broken more records than most of those players.Quote from: NATAS on May 30, 2010, 05:40:57 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 30, 2010, 03:46:54 PMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 30, 2010, 03:31:39 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 30, 2010, 01:20:18 PMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 30, 2010, 12:21:25 PMa bit of a stretch there lol but ok...top 5 player ever....lolLMAO@top 5 being a stretch when he's competing for GOAT status.He is competing in YOUR mind lol. Most experts didnt have Kobe rated a top 10 all time player prior to this year. Him winning his second title as the leader of the team I dont think will bounce him all the way into the top 5 lol But then again...Im arguing with a guy who thinks Kobe is better than Jordan (no Farmar).Pretty much everyone already acknowledges that Kobe, at the top of his game, has surpassed or at the very least matched Jordan as far as skill goes. If he wins 6+ titles, it would be ridiculous to not include him in the GOAT discussion.LMAO where's the 5 MVP awards and 0 NBA Finals losses?The MVP award is a popularity contest...Nash has more MVPs than Kobe as well. you wouldn't say he's better than Kobe...or would you? LOL.Although Nash DID deserve the awards. The MVP award is about who is the most valueable to their team that year. You can argue every year basically who you think should win. But you cant really say Nash didnt deserve those. Not without accepting the argument that Kobe didnt deserve his.
Quote from: NATAS on May 30, 2010, 05:40:03 PMQuote from: teecee on May 30, 2010, 11:21:18 AMHad a GREAT series....I'd go as far to say that was his best playoff series as a leader. He hit TOUGH shots, was consistent, used his teammates, and showed real maturity.If he plays like this in the finals, Celtics have no chance. He'll get his second playoff MVP and become a top 5 playoff player ever...michael jordanoscar robertsonlarry birdmagic johnsonbill russellwilt chamberlainkareem abdoul jabbarshaq o'nealkobe is never cracking the top 8lol Kobe is still struggling to crack the top ten. The reason why Jordan is so hard to ever top is because every single year....Jordan was the best player in the league. There was absolutely NO debating it. Which is why the league is CONSTANTLY trying to build up a player as the next Jordan. Kobe has never ONCE been the clearcut BEST in the league. He is always amongst a group of great players. He has had moments where he was the best....so has LeBron....so has Duncan....etc.