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Quote from: Prodigal Son on June 19, 2011, 02:05:44 PMSo just because I don't worship Pac and I call out his character flaws2 extremes.You don't see the chance of you or anyone else just liking his music? It's got to be Worship or Traducement and nothing in between?
So just because I don't worship Pac and I call out his character flaws
LOL he watches WRESTLING ! nuff said.LMAO my lil cuzzo watches that shit and he's in 5th grade. he also listens to justen bieber and black eyed peas.you obviously have daddy issues....you made this shit up about Pac after ultimate warrior went on his rant about hulk hogan. so now you want to do similar shit too Pac's name. to quote Cee-Lo, "you must be gay"
Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on June 19, 2011, 03:54:04 PMQuote from: Jaydc is back on June 19, 2011, 11:07:34 AMI don't know why anyone would fight the notion 2pac wasn't a very good person. It doesn't take away what an amazing artist he was. Edgar Allen Poe was a piece of shit as a person, doesn't mean he isn't one of the most gifted poets in human historyPac was not only a great artists but he was also a great person, and it all goes hand in hand anyway. You can't separate a man from his art like that. Yes, actually you can. Unless your an idiot. Having talent doesn't mean your a good person. Being an artist doesn't wipe the slate clean. I can hundreds of examples. 2pac was intelligent and incredibly talented. But he was also a hypocritical, obnoxious douche
Quote from: Jaydc is back on June 19, 2011, 11:07:34 AMI don't know why anyone would fight the notion 2pac wasn't a very good person. It doesn't take away what an amazing artist he was. Edgar Allen Poe was a piece of shit as a person, doesn't mean he isn't one of the most gifted poets in human historyPac was not only a great artists but he was also a great person, and it all goes hand in hand anyway. You can't separate a man from his art like that.
I don't know why anyone would fight the notion 2pac wasn't a very good person. It doesn't take away what an amazing artist he was. Edgar Allen Poe was a piece of shit as a person, doesn't mean he isn't one of the most gifted poets in human history
Quote from: Jaydc is back on June 19, 2011, 04:16:33 PMMost of those problems he brought on himself. You don't see Talib or common in those situations now do you?You guys are some pretentious fucks... Did it ever occur to you that Talib and Common may have had a different upbringing than Pac did? Or that the challenges Pac faced at the top of the game in hip-hop were far more difficult than Talib and Common selling wood and gold in todays market?That's no different than an arm chair quarterback on Sunday who thinks he knows what the Quarterback should've done. All from the comfort of his own couch. But he doesn't know all that went into it... he doesn't know how challenging the game really is, he doesn't know about the blitz packages that rushed the QB's throws, about receivers that ran the wrong routes, about bad coaches that put the QB in an unwinnable position, or about an injury that occured to the QB in practice the previous week that is effecting his throws. Or about pressure from family, or fans, or media, or anything...Pac created "culture". I know you guys are too ignorant to ever understand the value of that. But 2pac actually created joys and pleasures that weren't in existence before him. He enhanced the quality of people's lives, he inspired them to do good things, and he was an outlet and a therapeutic escape for people during hard times. This world is a far better place because Pac lived in it.
Most of those problems he brought on himself. You don't see Talib or common in those situations now do you?
Yes, actually you can. Unless your an idiot. Having talent doesn't mean your a good person. Being an artist doesn't wipe the slate clean. I can hundreds of examples. 2pac was intelligent and incredibly talented. But he was also a hypocritical, obnoxious douche
Tom, this shit is way bigger than what you are talking about. I know you are simple minded and it's harder for you to grasp deeper concepts. Really, I don't want to hurt your brain. My only purpose here is to defend Pac's legacy, because it meant something very real. See, what you don't understand is, while you are playing armchair Quarterback; Pac was living out his destiny. You can't fuck with another man's destiny. Pac's destiny was to be one of the greatest artists this world has ever known. In your own, little world, that is not something that you can even begin to wrap your mind around. See Pac had a destiny to be the greatest of All-time and to do something rarely done in the art world.. to live a life that imitated art, and have your art imitate your life. This was an amazing feet, and it was his destiny. He fulfilled that, he fulfilled his dreams. And he knew it was also his destiny to die young, you hear it in all his songs. He prophecized that.I know you guys will laugh and play the sarcastic role. Because your lives really aren't that meaningful. So it's harder for you guys to see the deeper meaning in all this. It makes you nervous because it only exposes the lack of meaning in your own lives. If only everybody could be low on your level, you could have a shred of self-esteem.
By the way Tom, as for you making Pac out to be a liar, you may have seen the other threads about statements from prison being made by one of Big's associates who was involved in the 94' shooting/robbery of 2pac. Dexter Issaic, one of the shooters and robbers of 2pac has just recently issued a statement in which he refers to Biggie as his "friend Biggie". They were friends, and likely associates. You can't say it's not possible that Big didn't know what went on that night. That he couldn't of helped Pac and let Pac known what was up. It's very possible that Biggie really did betray Pac.
Quote from: Jimmy H. on June 19, 2011, 02:51:20 PMQuote from: Prodigal Son on June 19, 2011, 12:12:23 PMThis thread is about his actions and violence and how they caused another man to die,orphaned two children, and set the rap game back God knows how long. Throwing that on all his shoulders is bullshit.
Quote from: Prodigal Son on June 19, 2011, 12:12:23 PMThis thread is about his actions and violence and how they caused another man to die,orphaned two children, and set the rap game back God knows how long. Throwing that on all his shoulders is bullshit.
This thread is about his actions and violence and how they caused another man to die,orphaned two children, and set the rap game back God knows how long.
Well, to be fair how many times do you see B-Legit or MC Hammer refereed to as modern day prophets who lived out their destinies to become the greatest and most real artists in music history?