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Re: Interesting stat in Kobe vs Jordan debate......
« Reply #60 on: July 04, 2011, 11:11:20 PM »
lol, like you have an credibility left outside of Brian, the kid you bitch around.


i dunno, ur the type of fag who lives for internet cred, so u tell me, retard.

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Re: Interesting stat in Kobe vs Jordan debate......
« Reply #61 on: July 04, 2011, 11:14:07 PM »
lol, like you have an credibility left outside of Brian, the kid you bitch around.


i dunno, ur the type of fag who lives for internet cred, so u tell me, retard.

lol, same nigga who told me, "you're making assumptions that aren't truth". ::)

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Re: Interesting stat in Kobe vs Jordan debate......
« Reply #62 on: July 07, 2011, 02:23:17 PM »
Jordan scored more 2 more points than Kobe, while playing one less minute. He did that without chucking 518 threes, which is nearly 6.5 attempts per game. Jordan got to the line more than Kobe in a time where touch fouls were not called every other possession. That's efficient. That's playing smart and not using an unreliable game to get your points up.

As for shooting, Jordan didn't chuck threes on a regular. Never averaged more than 3.6 per game in a season (Kobe has 8 seasons averaging more than that). But, in Jordan's best seasons he averaged 37% twice and over 40% once. Kobe has never averaged more than 38% in his best season. And has only 1 other season above 36%. To say "Kobe is more of a shooter" to justify his poor shooting percentage makes me laugh. Reggie Miller had put up 2000 more three's than Kobe and has a better career average from the Field and the three.

If that player is in love with the three and is not efficient when putting those shots up, then he must live with and own up to his shooting percentages. Excuses cannot be made by either the player nor the fan. Said player should stick to what makes him better. Just like Jordan stuck to what made his game great. Kobe should follow that idea. Because he's a terrible three point shooter, just like Jordan (Kobe only shoots a percent or so better on career averages from three than MJ).
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Re: Interesting stat in Kobe vs Jordan debate......
« Reply #63 on: July 07, 2011, 02:49:43 PM »
Jordan scored more 2 more points than Kobe, while playing one less minute. He did that without chucking 518 threes, which is nearly 6.5 attempts per game. Jordan got to the line more than Kobe in a time where touch fouls were not called every other possession. That's efficient. That's playing smart and not using an unreliable game to get your points up.

As for shooting, Jordan didn't chuck threes on a regular. Never averaged more than 3.6 per game in a season (Kobe has 8 seasons averaging more than that). But, in Jordan's best seasons he averaged 37% twice and over 40% once. Kobe has never averaged more than 38% in his best season. And has only 1 other season above 36%. To say "Kobe is more of a shooter" to justify his poor shooting percentage makes me laugh. Reggie Miller had put up 2000 more three's than Kobe and has a better career average from the Field and the three.

If that player is in love with the three and is not efficient when putting those shots up, then he must live with and own up to his shooting percentages. Excuses cannot be made by either the player nor the fan. Said player should stick to what makes him better. Just like Jordan stuck to what made his game great. Kobe should follow that idea. Because he's a terrible three point shooter, just like Jordan (Kobe only shoots a percent or so better on career averages from three than MJ).


lmao....kobe is a terrible three point shooter? the guy holds the record for most threes in an nba game. u are on some other shit, really. i have NEVER heard any1 call kobe a terrible shooter before. and btw, u failed to mention that kobe plays in an era of zone defense, where teams send a double and triple team to u every time u get hot...jordan never faced these type of smothering defenses that kobe has faced in this modern era. lmao, craig ehlo? hersey hawkins? single-coverage? come on, man, some of the defenses against jordan were pathetic...in that sense, kobe coulda scored 100.

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Re: Interesting stat in Kobe vs Jordan debate......
« Reply #64 on: July 07, 2011, 04:29:18 PM »
Kobe is streaky. Funny you mention his record. But didn't mention that in the 3 games leading up to that game he was a combined 1-14 from 3? And the 2 games after that he was 0-5. So take those 6 games and he was a combined 13-39. Not great.

That season he did end up with his best 3 point fg % ever and 12 3's in a game is a great feat, but look at the rest of his body of work... it's terrible.

He has his moments where he CAN be a great 3 point shooter, but because he chooses to chuck from way beyond the arc, because he chooses to chuck with "double and triple teams" in his face, because HE makes those decisions... he's a terrible 3 point shooter.

Guys like Ehlo and Hawkins were better shooters. They may have never been defended the way Kobe was, but that doesn't mean they're not better shooters.

Anyone can speculate about defenses and tempos and if so and so played here they would've scored this much.... If you're so curious about that join one of those fantasy sites that allows you to match up players from other years. But let the stats speak for themselves. Kobe is a chucker and a bad 3 point shooter (look at how low he ranks in career percentages). 33.9%

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Re: Interesting stat in Kobe vs Jordan debate......
« Reply #65 on: July 07, 2011, 06:26:56 PM »
lol @ NIK speculating twice.
 

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Re: Interesting stat in Kobe vs Jordan debate......
« Reply #66 on: July 07, 2011, 06:50:10 PM »
Kobe is streaky. Funny you mention his record. But didn't mention that in the 3 games leading up to that game he was a combined 1-14 from 3? And the 2 games after that he was 0-5. So take those 6 games and he was a combined 13-39. Not great.

That season he did end up with his best 3 point fg % ever and 12 3's in a game is a great feat, but look at the rest of his body of work... it's terrible.

He has his moments where he CAN be a great 3 point shooter, but because he chooses to chuck from way beyond the arc, because he chooses to chuck with "double and triple teams" in his face, because HE makes those decisions... he's a terrible 3 point shooter.

Guys like Ehlo and Hawkins were better shooters. They may have never been defended the way Kobe was, but that doesn't mean they're not better shooters.

Anyone can speculate about defenses and tempos and if so and so played here they would've scored this much.... If you're so curious about that join one of those fantasy sites that allows you to match up players from other years. But let the stats speak for themselves. Kobe is a chucker and a bad 3 point shooter (look at how low he ranks in career percentages). 33.9%





lol ur comparing open 3's and contested double-triple teamed fade away 3's?


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there is no comparison, lol if kobe wasnt always doubled or tripled he wouldnt have to "chuck" from way behind the arc, lol basically the opposing teams defense is based AROUND KOBE.


and your talking about dudes at juz shoot good fg %, gtfo out of here. stats isnt everything it does mean something but in this case it doesnt define it.

these guys u named ARE NO NAMES, they shoot a better fg percentage prob cuz they were smothered with double teams all the time.



lol u cant  take stats in a literal sense, thats fucking retarded, so if a scrub had a 10/10 fg percentage in a game and played only one game all year , is he considered a better scorer? id bet nobody would expect thatm from a scrub and play laxed D.



i cant believe we're talking about this, this isnt juz a kobe thing either, this dude is a moron.
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Re: Interesting stat in Kobe vs Jordan debate......
« Reply #67 on: July 08, 2011, 01:44:29 AM »
Kobe is streaky. Funny you mention his record. But didn't mention that in the 3 games leading up to that game he was a combined 1-14 from 3? And the 2 games after that he was 0-5. So take those 6 games and he was a combined 13-39. Not great.

That season he did end up with his best 3 point fg % ever and 12 3's in a game is a great feat, but look at the rest of his body of work... it's terrible.

He has his moments where he CAN be a great 3 point shooter, but because he chooses to chuck from way beyond the arc, because he chooses to chuck with "double and triple teams" in his face, because HE makes those decisions... he's a terrible 3 point shooter.

Guys like Ehlo and Hawkins were better shooters. They may have never been defended the way Kobe was, but that doesn't mean they're not better shooters.

Anyone can speculate about defenses and tempos and if so and so played here they would've scored this much.... If you're so curious about that join one of those fantasy sites that allows you to match up players from other years. But let the stats speak for themselves. Kobe is a chucker and a bad 3 point shooter (look at how low he ranks in career percentages). 33.9%




lmao@kobe being a chucker...to shoot 34% on threes on your career is FAR from a chucker, homie...my point, though, was that jordan played in a day in age where teams rarely double teamed and triple teams were unheard of. the new zone defense rules completely changed the way players are guarded nowadays. u call kobe a bad shooter, but in 14 seasons, he's only had 2 sub-par seasons from beyond the arc. jordan has had 10, and that includes seasons where the three point line was a few feet closer....face it, kobe may not be reggie miller from behind the arc, but that doesnt mean he doesnt have a great stroke, along with a wide offensive arsenal to go along with it.  and well never know how many points kobe woulda scored with a closer three point line, but all we can do is speculate.
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Re: Interesting stat in Kobe vs Jordan debate......
« Reply #68 on: July 08, 2011, 10:26:36 AM »
^How does that Kobe nutsack taste?
 

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Re: Interesting stat in Kobe vs Jordan debate......
« Reply #69 on: July 08, 2011, 01:03:52 PM »
^How does that Kobe nutsack taste?


ur 1 to speak, bieber

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Re: Interesting stat in Kobe vs Jordan debate......
« Reply #70 on: July 08, 2011, 05:38:39 PM »
^How does that Kobe nutsack taste?


ur 1 to speak, bieber

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Re: Interesting stat in Kobe vs Jordan debate......
« Reply #71 on: July 08, 2011, 09:23:40 PM »
lol@being happy when some1 calls u bieber...u are even gayer than imaginable. smh

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Re: Interesting stat in Kobe vs Jordan debate......
« Reply #72 on: July 08, 2011, 09:28:35 PM »
lol@being happy when some1 calls u bieber...u are even gayer than imaginable. smh

Where do I show signs of happiness? REACH. All I'm saying is, if you're taking personal shots, tryna diss looks, don't call me somebody who girls are literally crying over just to be in his presence.

Not much of an insult...lol.
 

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Re: Interesting stat in Kobe vs Jordan debate......
« Reply #73 on: July 08, 2011, 10:54:50 PM »
lol@being happy when some1 calls u bieber...u are even gayer than imaginable. smh

Where do I show signs of happiness? REACH. All I'm saying is, if you're taking personal shots, tryna diss looks, don't call me somebody who girls are literally crying over just to be in his presence.

Not much of an insult...lol.



being compared 2 justin bieber isn't an insult? lmao point proven, lil fruit boy

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Re: Interesting stat in Kobe vs Jordan debate......
« Reply #74 on: July 08, 2011, 11:30:42 PM »
LOL, it's simple logic. You don't diss somebodies looks by saying they look like somebody that every girl loves.

"You're a herb, NIK. You look like Brad Pitt". You don't see the stupidity behind that?