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Quote from: NIKCC on August 04, 2011, 02:23:26 PMQuote from: SPICE NONE on August 04, 2011, 02:20:45 PMDo you really believe No One Can Do It Better is on the level of illmatic?a classic is a classic. the album is a 5/5. do u even know what that did for west coast hip-hop?Nothing? The DOC isn't a west coast rapper.
Quote from: SPICE NONE on August 04, 2011, 02:20:45 PMDo you really believe No One Can Do It Better is on the level of illmatic?a classic is a classic. the album is a 5/5. do u even know what that did for west coast hip-hop?
Do you really believe No One Can Do It Better is on the level of illmatic?
Quote from: SPICE TWO on August 04, 2011, 02:27:18 PMQuote from: NIKCC on August 04, 2011, 02:23:26 PMQuote from: SPICE NONE on August 04, 2011, 02:20:45 PMDo you really believe No One Can Do It Better is on the level of illmatic?a classic is a classic. the album is a 5/5. do u even know what that did for west coast hip-hop?Nothing? The DOC isn't a west coast rapper.yea, and neither are 2pac or kurupt....lmao.step it up, son.
Quote from: NIKCC on August 04, 2011, 02:42:35 PMQuote from: SPICE TWO on August 04, 2011, 02:27:18 PMQuote from: NIKCC on August 04, 2011, 02:23:26 PMQuote from: SPICE NONE on August 04, 2011, 02:20:45 PMDo you really believe No One Can Do It Better is on the level of illmatic?a classic is a classic. the album is a 5/5. do u even know what that did for west coast hip-hop?Nothing? The DOC isn't a west coast rapper.yea, and neither are 2pac or kurupt....lmao.step it up, son.Pac and Kurupt were born other places and moved to California, lived there for years and repped it as their home. The D.O.C. went to Cali specifically to fuck with Dre and make music. He was literally living in Dre's house during that time. Ice Cube went to NY to record his albums, doesn't make him an east coast rapper.
Spice wanna go around talkin like no one does it better aint a classic yet his forum name is taken from a rapper that never even came close to making a classic lol...not to mention claiming rick ross is a great lyricist go do your homework kid
LOL...the DOC is west coast hip-hop, man. doesn't matter where he lived, he made his music out here and fucked with west coast cats exclusively, thus giving him the signature west coast sound. he was a huge part of NWA's success and his debut is considered a landmark in west coast rap. if u dont consider DOC west coast, u need to check urself.
He's a pioneer and all but the lyrics in Doggystyle or 2001 (which he most of the time oversaw, not really wrote) are clearly the weakest aspects of those albums.
Quote from: bouli77 on August 04, 2011, 03:47:02 AM He's a pioneer and all but the lyrics in Doggystyle or 2001 (which he most of the time oversaw, not really wrote) are clearly the weakest aspects of those albums. No, they are not. We seem to be living in this new world of faux-sophistication where lyrics have to be complex and overly-intellectual to be considered valid of holding weight. Simple can be just as effective. Great writing, at its core, is about creating something that reasonates. If you can create a memorable song with basic words and rhyme patterns, that is not weak lyricism. If anything I think a true artist is one that stays in the moment, instead of trying to come off clever with a witty metaphor.
Quote from: NIKCC on August 04, 2011, 03:31:43 PMLOL...the DOC is west coast hip-hop, man. doesn't matter where he lived, he made his music out here and fucked with west coast cats exclusively, thus giving him the signature west coast sound. he was a huge part of NWA's success and his debut is considered a landmark in west coast rap. if u dont consider DOC west coast, u need to check urself.lmao he didn't have a signature west coast sound. Does No One Can Do It Better sound like a west coast album to you?
Quote from: Jimmy H. on August 04, 2011, 10:08:50 PMQuote from: bouli77 on August 04, 2011, 03:47:02 AM He's a pioneer and all but the lyrics in Doggystyle or 2001 (which he most of the time oversaw, not really wrote) are clearly the weakest aspects of those albums. No, they are not. We seem to be living in this new world of faux-sophistication where lyrics have to be complex and overly-intellectual to be considered valid of holding weight. Simple can be just as effective. Great writing, at its core, is about creating something that reasonates. If you can create a memorable song with basic words and rhyme patterns, that is not weak lyricism. If anything I think a true artist is one that stays in the moment, instead of trying to come off clever with a witty metaphor. I'd agree with most of this. But I also think a lot of songs have been carried by their beats. The lyrics on Doggystyle were memorable because look how many of Snoop's quotables came out of that. But I can't say the same for 2001. I believe you could have replaced Kurupt's "bitch is a bitch" rhymes with better lyrics, or given Dre better lyrics and that would have made the album even better.
Quote from: SPICE TWO on August 04, 2011, 06:22:31 PMQuote from: NIKCC on August 04, 2011, 03:31:43 PMLOL...the DOC is west coast hip-hop, man. doesn't matter where he lived, he made his music out here and fucked with west coast cats exclusively, thus giving him the signature west coast sound. he was a huge part of NWA's success and his debut is considered a landmark in west coast rap. if u dont consider DOC west coast, u need to check urself.lmao he didn't have a signature west coast sound. Does No One Can Do It Better sound like a west coast album to you?yes...it has the same sound as the other Ruthless releases from that era. Are you okay? smh
Quote from: quiksta80 on August 04, 2011, 03:48:20 PMSpice wanna go around talkin like no one does it better aint a classic yet his forum name is taken from a rapper that never even came close to making a classic lol...not to mention claiming rick ross is a great lyricist go do your homework kidI dunno bout that...I think Spice-1 has a couple bay classics under his belt.
Quote from: SPICE TWO on August 04, 2011, 11:32:30 PMQuote from: Jimmy H. on August 04, 2011, 10:08:50 PMQuote from: bouli77 on August 04, 2011, 03:47:02 AM He's a pioneer and all but the lyrics in Doggystyle or 2001 (which he most of the time oversaw, not really wrote) are clearly the weakest aspects of those albums. No, they are not. We seem to be living in this new world of faux-sophistication where lyrics have to be complex and overly-intellectual to be considered valid of holding weight. Simple can be just as effective. Great writing, at its core, is about creating something that reasonates. If you can create a memorable song with basic words and rhyme patterns, that is not weak lyricism. If anything I think a true artist is one that stays in the moment, instead of trying to come off clever with a witty metaphor. I'd agree with most of this. But I also think a lot of songs have been carried by their beats. The lyrics on Doggystyle were memorable because look how many of Snoop's quotables came out of that. But I can't say the same for 2001. I believe you could have replaced Kurupt's "bitch is a bitch" rhymes with better lyrics, or given Dre better lyrics and that would have made the album even better. there are entire songs on 2001 that are quotables.