Anybody Heard About Shaq's Biography?

[Chamillitary Click]

I always said, if you're in the discussion with greatness, you're probably great.

Look how hard you're trying to deny him in Shaq in his prime, which is truly the GOAT of the position. It's a joke when you think about the situation. "Yeah, he's good, but he's not Shaq in his prime". Basically the equivalent of me saying "Yeah, Magic was great, but he wasn't MJ in his prime". I realize rings are the only knocks niggas have anymore.

LAUGHMYFUCKINGASSOFF @ Bynum in Orlando. If he was even healthy enough to play with all those touches & contact, no way could be do Dwight numbers.

[Sccit]

I always said, if you're in the discussion with greatness, you're probably great.

Look how hard you're trying to deny him in Shaq in his prime, which is truly the GOAT of the position. It's a joke when you think about the situation. "Yeah, he's good, but he's not Shaq in his prime". Basically the equivalent of me saying "Yeah, Magic was great, but he wasn't MJ in his prime". I realize rings are the only knocks niggas have anymore.

LAUGHMYFUCKINGASSOFF @ Bynum in Orlando. If he was even healthy enough to play with all those touches & contact, no way could be do Dwight numbers.

what are u talking about...magic and mj are in the same class. dwight and shaq ARE NOT. what dont u get about this, nutlicker?



bynum plays alongside pau gasol, which means he gets way less minutes, and barely any touches......he would average at least 20-10 on a team like the magic, with a more dependable post game. not really a stretch, considering he averaged 13.1-10.2-2.1 on 63.6% (better percentage than dwight ever had) on 8 shot attempts in 28 minutes before pau came along. dwight currently averages 13.4 attempts.....do the math and see if i'm off.

[rayallen0]

what a good defense. Howard is to much better than every other center. Totally unlike Wilt & Shaq. Oh wait.

"Shaq. C’mon now, Dwight will get there, but he doesn’t have Shaq’s history. Dwight’s coming. Dwight’s time is coming" - Kobe Bryant.

Who was Shaqs biggest competition at Center? Tim Duncan? who is originally a Power Forward. GTFO with your double standards.

Howard is an all around player who can be the greatest defensive player in the League and put up 20 points a game and lead the league in FG%.

I didn't see Kareem or Russell or other play so I'm not gonna speak on them. I also didn't really get heavy into basketball tell the 04-05 season before i watched a few games here & there with my dad but was usually the Sonics so i didn't really see Shaq in his prime. I have watched Howard and seen the dude dominate.

I swear you guys only care about scoring. No he isn't scoring 30 ppg. he is scoring 23 and shutting down every other player and gets more 2nd chance rebounds for his team than any other player. There is more to this game than scoring.

well, there lies the problem...if u never seen shaq in his prime, then u wont understand why dwight isn't even close. but trust me when i tell u this, HE IS NOT. pretty much anyone in the basketball world will tell u the same (besides faggot ass cham, who is in here for no other reason but 2 lick nuts). now, i'm not writing dwight off completely, cuz he can still improve...but as of right now, he's simply nowhere near the level of those mentioned greats when they were in their prime.


also, u pretty much explained why he's considered "sooo good" nowadays...there are no more true centers in the league! he's playing in an era where the 2nd best center in the league behind him IS andrew bynum....so yea, of course he's gunna gobble up those rebounds when there is not much competition at the center spot. he is not playing against hakeem, ewing, mourning, etc...he is pretty much the only elite center in the league right now. even blake griffin and kevin love are gobbling up rebounds at the same rate as him, and better...doesnt make them rank amongst the great, it just means that competition amongst big men has diminished drastically.

OK then you can't say Kobe is the greatest. You didn't see Magic or Wilt in his prime. You can't use that argument unless you have been watching since the start of the NBA.

Al Horford, Joakim Noah  & Marc Gasol  are better than Bynum for the record also.

The most dominant center of his generation like Shaq and broke Shaqs records yet doesnt belong in the same class? at 25 Howards #'s > Shaqs.

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^LOL. *waits for NIK to say, "I've seen enough footage"*

[Sccit]

what a good defense. Howard is to much better than every other center. Totally unlike Wilt & Shaq. Oh wait.

"Shaq. C’mon now, Dwight will get there, but he doesn’t have Shaq’s history. Dwight’s coming. Dwight’s time is coming" - Kobe Bryant.

Who was Shaqs biggest competition at Center? Tim Duncan? who is originally a Power Forward. GTFO with your double standards.

Howard is an all around player who can be the greatest defensive player in the League and put up 20 points a game and lead the league in FG%.

I didn't see Kareem or Russell or other play so I'm not gonna speak on them. I also didn't really get heavy into basketball tell the 04-05 season before i watched a few games here & there with my dad but was usually the Sonics so i didn't really see Shaq in his prime. I have watched Howard and seen the dude dominate.

I swear you guys only care about scoring. No he isn't scoring 30 ppg. he is scoring 23 and shutting down every other player and gets more 2nd chance rebounds for his team than any other player. There is more to this game than scoring.

well, there lies the problem...if u never seen shaq in his prime, then u wont understand why dwight isn't even close. but trust me when i tell u this, HE IS NOT. pretty much anyone in the basketball world will tell u the same (besides faggot ass cham, who is in here for no other reason but 2 lick nuts). now, i'm not writing dwight off completely, cuz he can still improve...but as of right now, he's simply nowhere near the level of those mentioned greats when they were in their prime.


also, u pretty much explained why he's considered "sooo good" nowadays...there are no more true centers in the league! he's playing in an era where the 2nd best center in the league behind him IS andrew bynum....so yea, of course he's gunna gobble up those rebounds when there is not much competition at the center spot. he is not playing against hakeem, ewing, mourning, etc...he is pretty much the only elite center in the league right now. even blake griffin and kevin love are gobbling up rebounds at the same rate as him, and better...doesnt make them rank amongst the great, it just means that competition amongst big men has diminished drastically.

OK then you can't say Kobe is the greatest. You didn't see Magic or Wilt in his prime. You can't use that argument unless you have been watching since the start of the NBA.

Al Horford, Joakim Noah  & Marc Gasol  are better than Bynum for the record also.

The most dominant center of his generation like Shaq and broke Shaqs records yet doesnt belong in the same class? at 25 Howards #'s > Shaqs.

LOL...i know more about Magic and his game than muthafuckaz who were watchin basketball in the 80s. trust me, bro, i have countless taped games of the showtime Lakers, as well as videos specifically about Magic and the Lakers in the 80s....LOTS of 'em. so yea, i know a whole lot about the nba in the 80s and the Lakers' competition, from sleepy floyd, to mark aguirre, to larry bird, to zeke, to whatever......studied it, homie. and Howard's numbers RIGHT NOW aint even as good as Shaq's when he was a rookie, so please stop with that nonsense.


Also....... Al Horford is a power forward, Joakim Noah is a defensive specialist, and Marc Gasol is not better than Bynum LOL.

[Chamillitary Click]

I always said, if you're in the discussion with greatness, you're probably great.

Look how hard you're trying to deny him in Shaq in his prime, which is truly the GOAT of the position. It's a joke when you think about the situation. "Yeah, he's good, but he's not Shaq in his prime". Basically the equivalent of me saying "Yeah, Magic was great, but he wasn't MJ in his prime". I realize rings are the only knocks niggas have anymore.

LAUGHMYFUCKINGASSOFF @ Bynum in Orlando. If he was even healthy enough to play with all those touches & contact, no way could be do Dwight numbers.

what are u talking about...magic and mj are in the same class. dwight and shaq ARE NOT. what dont u get about this, nutlicker?



bynum plays alongside pau gasol, which means he gets way less minutes, and barely any touches......he would average at least 20-10 on a team like the magic, with a more dependable post game. not really a stretch, considering he averaged 13.1-10.2-2.1 on 63.6% (better percentage than dwight ever had) on 8 shot attempts in 28 minutes before pau came along. dwight currently averages 13.4 attempts.....do the math and see if i'm off.

LOL, you want me to do the imaginary math & assume what he would average? Sounds like a pretty stupid way to declare which player is better. Although it was pretty stupid of you to say Bynum's potential is better than Dwight, so this is common with you.

Also, pretty simple why Bynum averages those numbers, he's got somebody "better than MJ", one of the top big men in the league behind him & hands down the best sixth man, who would start for another other team in basketball playing with him. When so much attention is on three other people, I think he should be putting up pretty good numbers in limited time.

[Chamillitary Click]

LOL...i know more about Magic and his game than muthafuckaz who were watchin basketball in the 80s. trust me, bro, i have countless taped games of the showtime Lakers, as well as videos specifically about Magic and the Lakers in the 80s....LOTS of 'em. so yea, i know a whole lot about the nba in the 80s

LMFAO, that's my boy. Never letting me down.

[Sccit]

I always said, if you're in the discussion with greatness, you're probably great.

Look how hard you're trying to deny him in Shaq in his prime, which is truly the GOAT of the position. It's a joke when you think about the situation. "Yeah, he's good, but he's not Shaq in his prime". Basically the equivalent of me saying "Yeah, Magic was great, but he wasn't MJ in his prime". I realize rings are the only knocks niggas have anymore.

LAUGHMYFUCKINGASSOFF @ Bynum in Orlando. If he was even healthy enough to play with all those touches & contact, no way could be do Dwight numbers.

what are u talking about...magic and mj are in the same class. dwight and shaq ARE NOT. what dont u get about this, nutlicker?



bynum plays alongside pau gasol, which means he gets way less minutes, and barely any touches......he would average at least 20-10 on a team like the magic, with a more dependable post game. not really a stretch, considering he averaged 13.1-10.2-2.1 on 63.6% (better percentage than dwight ever had) on 8 shot attempts in 28 minutes before pau came along. dwight currently averages 13.4 attempts.....do the math and see if i'm off.

LOL, you want me to do the imaginary math & assume what he would average? Sounds like a pretty stupid way to declare which player is better. Although it was pretty stupid of you to say Bynum's potential is better than Dwight, so this is common with you.

Also, pretty simple why Bynum averages those numbers, he's got somebody "better than MJ", one of the top big men in the league behind him & hands down the best sixth man, who would start for another other team in basketball playing with him. When so much attention is on three other people, I think he should be putting up pretty good numbers in limited time.

bynum playing alongside gasol HINDERS his numbers, it doesnt improve them....smfh. some of the things u say are just beyond nutlickin retardation.

[Sccit]

LOL...i know more about Magic and his game than muthafuckaz who were watchin basketball in the 80s. trust me, bro, i have countless taped games of the showtime Lakers, as well as videos specifically about Magic and the Lakers in the 80s....LOTS of 'em. so yea, i know a whole lot about the nba in the 80s

LMFAO, that's my boy. Never letting me down.

if u want me 2, i can say i've never watched magic in his prime....but then i'd be a dirty faggot ass liar, such as urself.

[Chamillitary Click]

LOL...i know more about Magic and his game than muthafuckaz who were watchin basketball in the 80s. trust me, bro, i have countless taped games of the showtime Lakers, as well as videos specifically about Magic and the Lakers in the 80s....LOTS of 'em. so yea, i know a whole lot about the nba in the 80s

LMFAO, that's my boy. Never letting me down.

if u want me 2, i can say i've never watched magic in his prime....but then i'd be a dirty faggot ass liar, such as urself.

Nigga, I know you don't sit home & watch tape of old NBA players, give us a break.

& that's a bold claim when he doesn't play without them. Nigga you said he would flourish on the Magic. Kobe ain't there to take all the attention away, Dwight is the center of the attention.

[Sccit]

LOL...i know more about Magic and his game than muthafuckaz who were watchin basketball in the 80s. trust me, bro, i have countless taped games of the showtime Lakers, as well as videos specifically about Magic and the Lakers in the 80s....LOTS of 'em. so yea, i know a whole lot about the nba in the 80s

LMFAO, that's my boy. Never letting me down.

if u want me 2, i can say i've never watched magic in his prime....but then i'd be a dirty faggot ass liar, such as urself.

Nigga, I know you don't sit home & watch tape of old NBA players, give us a break.

& that's a bold claim when he doesn't play without them. Nigga you said he would flourish on the Magic. Kobe ain't there to take all the attention away, Dwight is the center of the attention.

are u sure about that, bitchboy?

[Chamillitary Click]

Considering you have ten times more Kobe stuff, that's borderline upsetting.

However, I see one book & one video that are about Magic Johnson. What is it two hours of his greatest plays? Nigga, I can go on Youtube and see that. Doesn't mean I watched him play game in & game out. That's not enough to have seen him play like somebody alive & into it at the time. Therefore you can't say Kobe was better than Magic, sorry.

[Sccit]

Considering you have ten times more Kobe stuff, that's borderline upsetting.

However, I see one book & one video that are about Magic Johnson. What is it two hours of his greatest plays? Nigga, I can go on Youtube and see that. Doesn't mean I watched him play game in & game out. That's not enough to have seen him play like somebody alive & into it at the time. Therefore you can't say Kobe was better than Magic, sorry.

those other movies are of the lakers title runs in the 80s, they're more than enough to see what magic and the lakers were about in the showtime era....and like i said, i watched tons of taped laker games from the 80s. i know more about magic and the lakers than most basketball fans who were watchin in the 80s. suckitbitch.

[Chamillitary Click]

You're such a cool guy.

Anywayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, you can't say Kobe is better than Larry Bird. Didn't see him play.

[LooN3y]

what a good defense. Howard is to much better than every other center. Totally unlike Wilt & Shaq. Oh wait.

"Shaq. C’mon now, Dwight will get there, but he doesn’t have Shaq’s history. Dwight’s coming. Dwight’s time is coming" - Kobe Bryant.

Who was Shaqs biggest competition at Center? Tim Duncan? who is originally a Power Forward. GTFO with your double standards.

Howard is an all around player who can be the greatest defensive player in the League and put up 20 points a game and lead the league in FG%.

I didn't see Kareem or Russell or other play so I'm not gonna speak on them. I also didn't really get heavy into basketball tell the 04-05 season before i watched a few games here & there with my dad but was usually the Sonics so i didn't really see Shaq in his prime. I have watched Howard and seen the dude dominate.

I swear you guys only care about scoring. No he isn't scoring 30 ppg. he is scoring 23 and shutting down every other player and gets more 2nd chance rebounds for his team than any other player. There is more to this game than scoring.

like i said theres hardly any talent in the center position tehese days, of course he's gonna get those numbers, but with that said he should be scoring at ease. but he can't, he can run the offense purely through him.

lol scoring? double standard? duncans been playing the 5 position for a min, the only reason he's even labeled a PF is because he can handle the ball and shoot outside shots.

shaq was an absolute beast, dude  if u havnt seen shaq in his prime, than how can you even pass judgement? even his triple double numbers were ridiculous with the amount of  blocks, and rebounds.

i don't know what your talking about shaq was a defensive presence , if your going into the paint and the big fellas there your gonna get hit, you gonna get thrown down. dwight might have better numbers but again, there isn't really any good centers out there. its easier for him.

i don know why your getting so defensive, i don't only care about scoring, but i point that out of dwight howard because thats his weakness, shaq only had a couple of post moves but thats all he needed, the ran the offense and did it well.

dwight only has one post move that I've seen him use regularly (i forget its that one up and under or spin bull shit ), i think i saw maybe one or 2 more this past season. but being the athletic beast he is, he still can't get it done. and if he learns some more post moves and being athletic as he is he has the "ABILITY" because of his body to be a hakeem, but he wil never because he just doesn't have that offensive mindset or talent.

and yes defense is great, but id take great offense over great defense any day. and its proven when stars like kobe, MJ, wade that can score even if their being defended perfectly. why? because scoring initially (wins games) defense does too but u need to be able to put the ball in the basket to score. some thing dwight cannot do consecutively 4 times in a row, to win a game or get a the teams tempo going.

dwight needs a complete sidekick, like cp3, or any other permitter player


astounds me how you said u never saw shaq in his prime and pass judgement on him. i don't judge any of the past players that I've never seen live.


he gets good numbers but theres a bunch of guys that do that, but i have yet to see improvement, whats he going to do when he loses his athleticism, he'll be like an old shaq even worse if he doesn't learn any post moves.

hakeem was just incredible, dude was a guard in a centers body.