Paul to Clippers for Gordon + Kaman 1st Round Pick

[Sccit]

Never thought I'd say this but the Lakers got screwed.

we always get screwed

You really need to stop playing the victim.

What do you mean? The Lakers just keep getting screwed. Pau for ...whatever his name was. They get raped annually.

that had nothing to do with the NBA...that was between Lakers and Memphis. as far as the Lakers, as an organization, getting love from Stern...that will never happen. we're too much of a threat to him and the small-market teams. hell, he knew that the Lakers trio would shit on the Heat trio, so he shitted his pants when the deal went through...it's corrupt and obvious. WWF status.....now i'm just waiting for him to come out the locker rooms with a chair and smash kobe in the back of the head during a crucial possession in this years playoffs.

[The_Ripper]

By adding Paul, Clippers send loud message to fans, teams

This is not about the Lakers. It's a reflex comparison because the locker rooms are a few yards away in the Staples Center hallway, because the Lakers are the measuring stick for great basketball in Los Angeles at the moment, and because the Lakers are the franchise players want to get to, not compare to being in jail the way Ron Harper once did.

Making this an L.A. thing is thinking too small. What the Clippers did Wednesday in completing the Chris Paul blockbuster in a rare moment of not playing the victim should be about taking on the entire world and nothing less, not worrying about one co-tenant in one building in one city.

You don't take the risk -- a smart risk, but definitely a risk -- of sending Eric Gordon, Minnesota's unprotected first-round pick in the very good 2012 Draft, All-Star Chris Kaman and prospect Al-Farouq Aminu to call out the Lakers. They're part of it as a team with Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum and with the reach to get into the Dwight Howard sweepstakes, but that's it. Part of it.

This was sending a message to all the Western Conference playoff elite for starters, not to mention division rivals Golden State and Phoenix, among others, with similar plans of crashing the postseason.(The East can read the writing across the Wednesday sky as well. It's just that even in their sugar-rush moment of landing a superstar point guard to go with Blake Griffin, the most excited of Clippers loyalists must realize the difference between now being a threat for years and being an instant title contender. One step at a time.)

Even for those of us who argued the Clippers should not risk practically gutting the roster with no promise in return beyond one shortened season with Paul, after which it could all blow up in their face if he left as a free agent, the apparent commitment from CP3 to pick up his 2012-13 option and guarantee at least two years makes it a smart move. The leap of faith had to be made, as a message to Griffin who will be negotiating a new contract soon, as a promise to the fans that had endured, you know, everything, and as a statement to 29 opponents.

Paul is the kind of special player worth stretching for, and it is stretching to give up so much when the Clippers surely would have preferred to surrender Gordon or the Timberwolves selection, not both. But Paul is 26 years old and when last seen was blasting the Lakers apart despite not being close to 100 percent after a knee injury. The Clips didn't have to give up their best player/ top prospect, Griffin, to get him. Heck, the Clips didn't have to give up more than one starter, Gordon, to get him.

If anyone thought Blake Superior was ferocious before, imagine him off the rookie learning curve and with a potential Hall of Fame ball handler delivering the ball in all the right places. We're talking big difference -- coach Vinny Del Negro last season lamented the tendency of teammates to get caught up in being part of the next Griffin highlight moment by throwing crazy lobs to the rim, and now comes the player who led the league in assist-to-turnover ratio. Of course, increased pressure to win, like now, also comes to Del Negro as well.

The Clippers are not as good as the Thunder, as poised and experienced as the Mavericks, or as proven as the Lakers and Spurs. They're not as deep any more as several West teams. But they are in the mix at a time one 2011 playoff team, Portland, has an uncertain future and another, Denver, may suffer several free-agent losses. A third, New Orleans, of course just lost its leader and star.

Not only is this a good place for the Clippers to be, it's a good time to be there. The teams with the top three records in the West last season -- the Spurs, Lakers and Mavericks -- are all relying heavily on older players that have piled up a lot of minutes. That obviously changes if Dallas turns great cap room next summer into instant renovation or if the Lakers land Howard. For now, though, we know the Clippers will scare people, with the very real possibility of a change to the threat level once the season starts and an on-court read becomes available.

Because:

Point guard - Paul is 26, a two-way player who will pass, shoot, defend and be a great teammate. Chauncey Billups is 35 and one of the best leaders of his generation. He was less than thrilled to be claimed after being the amnesty cut by the Knicks, so imagine now that he has already been supplanted as the No. 1 ball handler. He can be waived but not traded under the amnesty rules. Mo Williams turns 29 on Monday, the day of the first of two Lakers-Clippers exhibitions. Eric Bledsoe, still a nice prospect at 22, is expected to be out another five to seven weeks with a knee injury.

Shooting guard - Billups is called Mr. Big Shot. He is a possibility to play with Paul, not behind Paul. Randy Foye is another option to replace Gordon.

Small forward - Caron Butler was signed as a free agent. Ryan Gomes will play as well.

Power forward - Griffin seems to have a decent future.

Center - It was DeAndre Jordan's job to lose anyway after a breakthrough 2010-11. It just became official with Kaman being dealt to New Orleans.

There are holes on the bench and the Clippers will probably lose their own 2012 first-rounder to the Celtics since it is protected through the first 10 picks. This will not be an easy ascension. But it has become more realistic now after Wednesday, and not just about changing perceptions in Los Angeles. That is thinking too small.

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Never thought I'd say this but the Lakers got screwed.

we always get screwed

You really need to stop playing the victim.

What do you mean? The Lakers just keep getting screwed. Pau for ...whatever his name was. They get raped annually.

that had nothing to do with the NBA...that was between Lakers and Memphis. as far as the Lakers, as an organization, getting love from Stern...that will never happen. we're too much of a threat to him and the small-market teams. hell, he knew that the Lakers trio would shit on the Heat trio, so he shitted his pants when the deal went through...it's corrupt and obvious. WWF status.....now i'm just waiting for him to come out the locker rooms with a chair and smash kobe in the back of the head during a crucial possession in this years playoffs.

Yup, that's it. Only the second most winningest NBA franchise of all-time. Obviously been holding them back since the spawn of the franchise. Only been to seven finals in the last decade.

[Sccit]

Never thought I'd say this but the Lakers got screwed.

we always get screwed

You really need to stop playing the victim.

What do you mean? The Lakers just keep getting screwed. Pau for ...whatever his name was. They get raped annually.

that had nothing to do with the NBA...that was between Lakers and Memphis. as far as the Lakers, as an organization, getting love from Stern...that will never happen. we're too much of a threat to him and the small-market teams. hell, he knew that the Lakers trio would shit on the Heat trio, so he shitted his pants when the deal went through...it's corrupt and obvious. WWF status.....now i'm just waiting for him to come out the locker rooms with a chair and smash kobe in the back of the head during a crucial possession in this years playoffs.

Yup, that's it. Only the second most winningest NBA franchise of all-time. Obviously been holding them back since the spawn of the franchise. Only been to seven finals in the last decade.

right....and thats exactly whats been pissing stern off. if you're too stupid to get this, i feel sorry for ya mama.

[Chamillitary Click]

Never thought I'd say this but the Lakers got screwed.

we always get screwed

You really need to stop playing the victim.

What do you mean? The Lakers just keep getting screwed. Pau for ...whatever his name was. They get raped annually.

that had nothing to do with the NBA...that was between Lakers and Memphis. as far as the Lakers, as an organization, getting love from Stern...that will never happen. we're too much of a threat to him and the small-market teams. hell, he knew that the Lakers trio would shit on the Heat trio, so he shitted his pants when the deal went through...it's corrupt and obvious. WWF status.....now i'm just waiting for him to come out the locker rooms with a chair and smash kobe in the back of the head during a crucial possession in this years playoffs.

Yup, that's it. Only the second most winningest NBA franchise of all-time. Obviously been holding them back since the spawn of the franchise. Only been to seven finals in the last decade.

right....and thats exactly whats been pissing stern off. if you're too stupid to get this, i feel sorry for ya mama.

LOL. You're sitting here talking like the Lakers just keep getting fucked over & this is just another one on the list. You've been playing victim since I signed up on this forum. Yet this is the first time anything relatively close to "fucking the Lakers over" has happened.

Not to mention, the Hornets got a much better deal with the Clippers. Cheaper, younger players. Gordon with way more upside than 28 year old Kevin Martin; draft picks. It wouldn't surprise me if that deal was in the works all along & they realized they made a mistake. An abuse of power? Yes. Fucked up? Yes. But prior to that the Lakers have done nothing but get Shaq from Orlando & dominate. Then get Pau & dominate. Seven finals in ten years & you're playing victim. Nigga please.

[Sccit]

Never thought I'd say this but the Lakers got screwed.

we always get screwed

You really need to stop playing the victim.

What do you mean? The Lakers just keep getting screwed. Pau for ...whatever his name was. They get raped annually.

that had nothing to do with the NBA...that was between Lakers and Memphis. as far as the Lakers, as an organization, getting love from Stern...that will never happen. we're too much of a threat to him and the small-market teams. hell, he knew that the Lakers trio would shit on the Heat trio, so he shitted his pants when the deal went through...it's corrupt and obvious. WWF status.....now i'm just waiting for him to come out the locker rooms with a chair and smash kobe in the back of the head during a crucial possession in this years playoffs.

Yup, that's it. Only the second most winningest NBA franchise of all-time. Obviously been holding them back since the spawn of the franchise. Only been to seven finals in the last decade.

right....and thats exactly whats been pissing stern off. if you're too stupid to get this, i feel sorry for ya mama.

LOL. You're sitting here talking like the Lakers just keep getting fucked over & this is just another one on the list. You've been playing victim since I signed up on this forum. Yet this is the first time anything relatively close to "fucking the Lakers over" has happened.

Not to mention, the Hornets got a much better deal with the Clippers. Cheaper, younger players. Gordon with way more upside than 28 year old Kevin Martin; draft picks. It wouldn't surprise me if that deal was in the works all along & they realized they made a mistake. An abuse of power? Yes. Fucked up? Yes. But prior to that the Lakers have done nothing but get Shaq from Orlando & dominate. Then get Pau & dominate. Seven finals in ten years & you're playing victim. Nigga please.

like i said, if stern didn't put his foot down and hold the Lakers down when he felt necessary, we'd literally be bigger than the league........too strong of a power for a control-freak like Stern to deal with.

All those non-called hacks on Kobe... The constant pushing in the backs of our 7-footers... The touch fouls that are called on us... The weird way we struggle against awful teams when we have the best and biggest of everything at every position... 2004, 2006, 2008, 2011... The hate on Kobe... The deification of MJ... conspiracy shit. will never be proven, but it's not hard to see that Stern runs this league as if he were Vince McMahon.

[rayallen0]

lmao the touch calls.
Kobe gets so many super star calls.

This is the first time I've felt bad for the Lakers.

Stern doesn't give 2 shits about small market teams he owns the hornets and was flaunting power of Chris Paul so he could get more money. Try being in Vancouver or Seattle. Then talk shit. You think the Lakaers are the only team in the NBA. You are a fan not a member of the team. Holy shit your fan boyism is over the top.
"we are the best team" fine

"everybody is against us and we would be 231515X better than every other team" no. just no.

10th most free throw attempts of all time. Damn they never call fouls against Kobe.

Do you have a lakers tat?

and the Kobe hate is done because of his lying in the rape case


Yet we all know it is fact that they had sex at least.

Laker fans are hilarious, the deal is bullshit but hearing them cry is so fun.

to the better times


Kobe is the best player I've seen live (well either him or shaq) of all time. Not denying that. I really liked the Lakers a few years ago, but god are their fans cry babies.


Gary Payton got shit calls also. But that was obvious because he pissed off the refs not because their is some crazy conspiracy against the Sonics..

[Sccit]

lmao the touch calls.
Kobe gets so many super star calls.

This is the first time I've felt bad for the Lakers.

Stern doesn't give 2 shits about small market teams he owns the hornets and was flaunting power of Chris Paul so he could get more money. Try being in Vancouver or Seattle. Then talk shit. You think the Lakaers are the only team in the NBA. You are a fan not a member of the team. Holy shit your fan boyism is over the top.
"we are the best team" fine

"everybody is against us and we would be 231515X better than every other team" no. just no.

10th most free throw attempts of all time. Damn they never call fouls against Kobe.

Do you have a lakers tat?

and the Kobe hate is done because of his lying in the rape case


Yet we all know it is fact that they had sex at least.

Laker fans are hilarious, the deal is bullshit but hearing them cry is so fun.

to the better times


Kobe is the best player I've seen live (well either him or shaq) of all time. Not denying that. I really liked the Lakers a few years ago, but god are their fans cry babies.


Gary Payton got shit calls also. But that was obvious because he pissed off the refs not because their is some crazy conspiracy against the Sonics..

LOL@10TH ....with all the games Kobe's played, he should easily be top 3. and it's also very known that stern never liked payton, rayallen(<lmao)

[teecee]

Kobe staying on the perimeter doesn't get him a Lot of calls nowadays

Anyway, lakers got jobbed, but the hornets ended up getting a better, cheaper deal anyway, one that sets them up for the future.

And NIK I'm gonna assume u are using hyperbole  in your previous posts r at least trying to be controversial to get others agitated. There is no way u truly believe all that right? I hope for your sake u don't

[rayallen0]

lmao the touch calls.
Kobe gets so many super star calls.

This is the first time I've felt bad for the Lakers.

Stern doesn't give 2 shits about small market teams he owns the hornets and was flaunting power of Chris Paul so he could get more money. Try being in Vancouver or Seattle. Then talk shit. You think the Lakaers are the only team in the NBA. You are a fan not a member of the team. Holy shit your fan boyism is over the top.
"we are the best team" fine

"everybody is against us and we would be 231515X better than every other team" no. just no.

10th most free throw attempts of all time. Damn they never call fouls against Kobe.

Do you have a lakers tat?

and the Kobe hate is done because of his lying in the rape case


Yet we all know it is fact that they had sex at least.

Laker fans are hilarious, the deal is bullshit but hearing them cry is so fun.

to the better times


Kobe is the best player I've seen live (well either him or shaq) of all time. Not denying that. I really liked the Lakers a few years ago, but god are their fans cry babies.


Gary Payton got shit calls also. But that was obvious because he pissed off the refs not because their is some crazy conspiracy against the Sonics..

LOL@10TH ....with all the games Kobe's played, he should easily be top 3. and it's also very known that stern never liked payton, rayallen(<lmao)

i have no doubt he hates guys like payton, K.G., rasheed, Artest, etc..but Basketball referees are run by a sports union and are given out to the games. Stern has no power over them.

...kobe has played 48th most games of all time. so how he would be top 3 over 47 players who have played more games is beyond me.

Karl Malone   
Wilt Chamberlain
Shaquille O'Neal   
Moses Malone
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Oscar Robertson
Jerry West
Michael Jordan
Charles Barkley

Most of them play inside so they get fouls alot. Most have played more games than Kobe. Some were shit ft shooters so they got fouled on purpose and Jordan/West both got super star calls alot.

Kobe gets super star calls everybody knows it.

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Now it all makes sense, NIK.

[TheRemedy360Ressurection]

lmao the touch calls.
Kobe gets so many super star calls.

This is the first time I've felt bad for the Lakers.

Stern doesn't give 2 shits about small market teams he owns the hornets and was flaunting power of Chris Paul so he could get more money. Try being in Vancouver or Seattle. Then talk shit. You think the Lakaers are the only team in the NBA. You are a fan not a member of the team. Holy shit your fan boyism is over the top.
"we are the best team" fine

"everybody is against us and we would be 231515X better than every other team" no. just no.

10th most free throw attempts of all time. Damn they never call fouls against Kobe.

Do you have a lakers tat?

and the Kobe hate is done because of his lying in the rape case

Yet we all know it is fact that they had sex at least.

Laker fans are hilarious, the deal is bullshit but hearing them cry is so fun.

to the better times

Kobe is the best player I've seen live (well either him or shaq) of all time. Not denying that. I really liked the Lakers a few years ago, but god are their fans cry babies.


Gary Payton got shit calls also. But that was obvious because he pissed off the refs not because their is some crazy conspiracy against the Sonics..

Man I know you didn't just compare the Grizzlies to the Sonics, The Grizzlies were in Vancouver as an expansion Franchise for 6 seasons compared to 41 for the Sonics LOL, please don't make that comparison anymore. Anyways, I'm going off topic, LA got fucked here but it's hard to say they have been big time before (Playoffs vs Sacramento?)

[Sccit]

but Basketball referees are run by a sports union and are given out to the games. Stern has no power over them.

1.if u believe that slap yaself.
2.if u think kobe gets calls like jordan, slap yaself, again. kobe has been known to be the only superstar who doesnt get preferential treatment from the refs.

[rayallen0]

but Basketball referees are run by a sports union and are given out to the games. Stern has no power over them.

1.if u believe that slap yaself.
2.if u think kobe gets calls like jordan, slap yaself, again. kobe has been known to be the only superstar who doesnt get preferential treatment from the refs.

lmao. yes he does most definitely.
Did you see that Portland game where he mouthed off to the ref for 5 min and didn't get a T like any normal player would? If in no other areas he isn't having the new tech rule enforced the way most other players are. However it does happen in other areas too.

The refs are really inconsistent with Kobe.
Sometimes they bite on Kobe's obvious flops but there are moments like today where Kobe won't get any calls despite driving in and getting the contact. I don't know how to feel about it. There's no doubt he gets superstar calls but I can't forget about the obvious no-calls.

and no i wasn't comparing the grizzlies to the sonics but he is complaining about being a laker fan when he hasn't gone through shit other than having 1 trade not go through. Now Lakers are the most put upon team in the world.
I mean how they got Gasol, Odom & Artest is beyond me the way Stern is shutting this team off from the world.

if u wanna see bad reffing watch Super bowl 40


or 90% of every player travelling in the NBA including Kobe.

Laker fans live in their own little world where they are put upon. Every homer thinks that way.

[Sccit]

2.if u think kobe gets calls like jordan, slap yaself, again. kobe has been known to be the only superstar who doesnt get preferential treatment from the refs.

lmao. yes he does most definitely.
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