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Re: Which rappers do you believe have a negative affect on the listener?
« Reply #60 on: December 26, 2011, 07:25:44 PM »
^Exactly. Pac was a hypocrite. You can't have a song like "Changes" & then make songs like "When We Ride On Our Enemies".

Plus Pac was always telling his listeners not to even trust your friends & shit.

That's cause Pac was way real.  If your just a nice dude like Will Smith and politic like you got love for everybody, then it doesn't mean much if Will Smith says he's got love for you.  But if your a real mutherfucker like Pac you love and hate with equal intensity.  When Pac says he's got love for his homies, or for his mom, or for his fans, then you really feel it.  Pac would let all of his emotions show.  Pac was a soldier, a warrior, who fought his enemies and his demons and celebrated success with his people.
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Re: Which rappers do you believe have a negative affect on the listener?
« Reply #61 on: December 27, 2011, 04:40:47 AM »
U gotta realize Infinite that most white people and South Americans and everybody else under the sun (other than Carribian people and Africans) don't really understand Hip Hop.  They still honestly believe its only about 808s And Heartbreaks with a lotta ballin on the side.  

It's sad but it's the truth.  They have a respect for the culture but they don't truly understand it.  To them all that matters is Young Money Records and Ringtones.  

I could go on but why bother, I'm not the Biological Father of anybody on here.  At the end of the day bitches like V Nasty and Riff Raff will never have a true place in Hip Hop no matter who co-signs/signs them.  Hip Hop wasn't meant for them, its only for their entertainment.  Niggaz have died for decades over these raps, 1 or 2 websites and a couple of co-signs aren't gonna let the flood gates open.   That's wishful thinking and closedmindedness.  That might make u mad but u shoulda already knew.  

I'm not against every single white rapper and producer but I am against the infiltration and blatant disregard and blatant exploitation of my culture.  I'm pretty sure I'm not alone on that either.  But at the same time we shouldn't try to neutralize the game either, it's just not natural.  Hip Hop IS unique to Blacks from America.  

I don't know what Fat Joe was trying to say about Julio from next door but that pussy was all of tha way off.  Also, the "argument" doesn't start and end in the Hip Hop Community either so lets not obey every word and command of some celebrity like its the Gospel.
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Re: Which rappers do you believe have a negative affect on the listener?
« Reply #62 on: December 27, 2011, 05:26:24 AM »
^Exactly. Pac was a hypocrite. You can't have a song like "Changes" & then make songs like "When We Ride On Our Enemies".

Plus Pac was always telling his listeners not to even trust your friends & shit.

thatīs life. because life isnt all that great and beatuiful all the time. and you canīt always be on some "peace"-shit.
life is like a rollercoaster. so you cant blame pac for making songs like "hit em up", "bomb 1st", "when we ride on your enemies".
you must have that "peace"-mentality for you people and "hit em up"-mentality when youīre dealing with snakes.
thats what pac said. and yes, you canīt always trust your firends.if you dont know it then you are a kid (no diss).
"keep your enemies close, watch your homies" <---- tha truth.
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Re: Which rappers do you believe have a negative affect on the listener?
« Reply #63 on: December 27, 2011, 06:58:24 AM »


thatīs life. because life isnt all that great and beatuiful all the time. and you canīt always be on some "peace"-shit.
life is like a rollercoaster. so you cant blame pac for making songs like "hit em up", "bomb 1st", "when we ride on your enemies".
you must have that "peace"-mentality for you people and "hit em up"-mentality when youīre dealing with snakes.
thats what pac said. and yes, you canīt always trust your firends.if you dont know it then you are a kid (no diss).
"keep your enemies close, watch your homies" <---- tha truth.

^^this.
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Re: Which rappers do you believe have a negative affect on the listener?
« Reply #64 on: December 27, 2011, 10:56:24 AM »
You're still all idiotic. Stop changing the title of the thread. Bottom line, "Which rappers do you believe have a negative affect on the listener?". There is no way somebody who raps about killing people & everybody being snakes & the world is a lie & is against you has a POSITIVE affect on the listener. A positive affect means you walk away from his music saying with a positive feeling. You walk away from Pac songs saying, "Wow, the world is fucked up. Fuck police. Hahaha, fuck Biggie Smalls. WESTSIDE. FUCK THE EASTCOAST, KILL KILL KILL!". That's a negative affect. Jay or Wayne rapping about chillin' in the club, spending your hard earned money to have a good time & walking out of there with some pussy you're gunna go home & fuck, that's a positive affect.

Pac was great. Not going to take it away from him or anything. But his subjects were purely negative for a listener.
 

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Re: Which rappers do you believe have a negative affect on the listener?
« Reply #65 on: December 27, 2011, 01:25:36 PM »
You're still all idiotic. Stop changing the title of the thread. Bottom line, "Which rappers do you believe have a negative affect on the listener?". There is no way somebody who raps about killing people & everybody being snakes & the world is a lie & is against you has a POSITIVE affect on the listener. A positive affect means you walk away from his music saying with a positive feeling. You walk away from Pac songs saying, "Wow, the world is fucked up. Fuck police. Hahaha, fuck Biggie Smalls. WESTSIDE. FUCK THE EASTCOAST, KILL KILL KILL!". That's a negative affect. Jay or Wayne rapping about chillin' in the club, spending your hard earned money to have a good time & walking out of there with some pussy you're gunna go home & fuck, that's a positive affect.

Pac was great. Not going to take it away from him or anything. But his subjects were purely negative for a listener.

Pac was way too thoughtful and deep to simply make songs about chillin in a club.  Just because you rap about killing someone that doesn't make it "negative".   Hip-hop was built on battle rap.  It's a form of competition that pushes the art to higher levels.  To be the baddest in the game and to be the King of hip-hop in those days you had to battle the best and beat the best.  Biggie was the King of the East Coast so like a true soldier Pac challenged him and he won. 

A lot of what you see as "negativity" I see as a display of Pac's strength.  It is a cold world, and you can't make it just going to the club every night and chillin and bringing bitches home.  Shit, if that's all your life is, is just going out to clubs every night and spending money and bringing bitches home then congratulations, you have an easy life... but for people who have existed on the fringes of society and had to struggle, hustle, overcome both inner and outer obstacles Pac is speaking about the REAL SHIT.
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« Reply #66 on: December 27, 2011, 03:03:39 PM »
Chamera wasn't even listening to rap music then so his views are automatically rejected.  That's what's wrong with Modern History Books, it's written by a bunch of people who weren't there expressing their views on a life they didn't live. 

 

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Re: Which rappers do you believe have a negative affect on the listener?
« Reply #67 on: December 27, 2011, 03:45:41 PM »
^ Yeah, I mean as an artist I love Pac, but I hate when people act like he's the undisputed greatest and was some saint who died a noble death for no reason.
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« Reply #68 on: December 27, 2011, 03:56:27 PM »
present day Eminem can have a negative effect on the ears
 

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Re: Which rappers do you believe have a negative affect on the listener?
« Reply #69 on: December 27, 2011, 05:52:52 PM »
You're still all idiotic. Stop changing the title of the thread. Bottom line, "Which rappers do you believe have a negative affect on the listener?". There is no way somebody who raps about killing people & everybody being snakes & the world is a lie & is against you has a POSITIVE affect on the listener. A positive affect means you walk away from his music saying with a positive feeling. You walk away from Pac songs saying, "Wow, the world is fucked up. Fuck police. Hahaha, fuck Biggie Smalls. WESTSIDE. FUCK THE EASTCOAST, KILL KILL KILL!". That's a negative affect. Jay or Wayne rapping about chillin' in the club, spending your hard earned money to have a good time & walking out of there with some pussy you're gunna go home & fuck, that's a positive affect.

Pac was great. Not going to take it away from him or anything. But his subjects were purely negative for a listener.

Pac was way too thoughtful and deep to simply make songs about chillin in a club.  Just because you rap about killing someone that doesn't make it "negative".   Hip-hop was built on battle rap.  It's a form of competition that pushes the art to higher levels.  To be the baddest in the game and to be the King of hip-hop in those days you had to battle the best and beat the best.  Biggie was the King of the East Coast so like a true soldier Pac challenged him and he won.  

A lot of what you see as "negativity" I see as a display of Pac's strength.  It is a cold world, and you can't make it just going to the club every night and chillin and bringing bitches home.  Shit, if that's all your life is, is just going out to clubs every night and spending money and bringing bitches home then congratulations, you have an easy life... but for people who have existed on the fringes of society and had to struggle, hustle, overcome both inner and outer obstacles Pac is speaking about the REAL SHIT.

So 2pac making songs about wanting to kill Biggie isn't negative, but Biggie who stayed out of the beef had lyrics that were "too violent and pornographic?" Shit man, when it comes down to it i'll take Pac over Biggie any day, but your thought process on this one is ridiculous.
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Re: Which rappers do you believe have a negative affect on the listener?
« Reply #70 on: December 27, 2011, 05:53:36 PM »
^But Snoop was poetic.
 

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Re: Which rappers do you believe have a negative affect on the listener?
« Reply #71 on: December 27, 2011, 06:41:47 PM »
You're still all idiotic. Stop changing the title of the thread. Bottom line, "Which rappers do you believe have a negative affect on the listener?". There is no way somebody who raps about killing people & everybody being snakes & the world is a lie & is against you has a POSITIVE affect on the listener. A positive affect means you walk away from his music saying with a positive feeling. You walk away from Pac songs saying, "Wow, the world is fucked up. Fuck police. Hahaha, fuck Biggie Smalls. WESTSIDE. FUCK THE EASTCOAST, KILL KILL KILL!". That's a negative affect. Jay or Wayne rapping about chillin' in the club, spending your hard earned money to have a good time & walking out of there with some pussy you're gunna go home & fuck, that's a positive affect.

Pac was great. Not going to take it away from him or anything. But his subjects were purely negative for a listener.
for women pacs raps are positive up until all eyez on me...every rapper talks bout what u just said pac did INCLUDING  Jay and wayne so that was kinda stupid to say
 

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« Reply #72 on: December 27, 2011, 06:44:19 PM »
I didnt know rapping bout the drug game was positive  ???
 

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« Reply #73 on: December 27, 2011, 08:22:18 PM »
You're still all idiotic. Stop changing the title of the thread. Bottom line, "Which rappers do you believe have a negative affect on the listener?". There is no way somebody who raps about killing people & everybody being snakes & the world is a lie & is against you has a POSITIVE affect on the listener. A positive affect means you walk away from his music saying with a positive feeling. You walk away from Pac songs saying, "Wow, the world is fucked up. Fuck police. Hahaha, fuck Biggie Smalls. WESTSIDE. FUCK THE EASTCOAST, KILL KILL KILL!". That's a negative affect. Jay or Wayne rapping about chillin' in the club, spending your hard earned money to have a good time & walking out of there with some pussy you're gunna go home & fuck, that's a positive affect.

Pac was great. Not going to take it away from him or anything. But his subjects were purely negative for a listener.
for women pacs raps are positive up until all eyez on me...every rapper talks bout what u just said pac did INCLUDING  Jay and wayne so that was kinda stupid to say

Wayne & Jay were like that at the start of their careers. But now they are chilled out.
 

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Re: Which rappers do you believe have a negative affect on the listener?
« Reply #74 on: December 28, 2011, 01:56:09 AM »
You're still all idiotic. Stop changing the title of the thread. Bottom line, "Which rappers do you believe have a negative affect on the listener?". There is no way somebody who raps about killing people & everybody being snakes & the world is a lie & is against you has a POSITIVE affect on the listener. A positive affect means you walk away from his music saying with a positive feeling. You walk away from Pac songs saying, "Wow, the world is fucked up. Fuck police. Hahaha, fuck Biggie Smalls. WESTSIDE. FUCK THE EASTCOAST, KILL KILL KILL!". That's a negative affect. Jay or Wayne rapping about chillin' in the club, spending your hard earned money to have a good time & walking out of there with some pussy you're gunna go home & fuck, that's a positive affect.

Pac was great. Not going to take it away from him or anything. But his subjects were purely negative for a listener.

even pac wasnt saying his music was gangsta rap, it still was in some way. if you only want to hear all that positive shit than why are you even registered here?west coast music is gangsta rap and gangsta rap is violent, they portray the negative aspects of life, they report it.
if you want to listen some "chillin in the club" and "peace/funny"-shit, listen to lil wayne and de la soul.
i dont get it. how about ice cube?ice-t?mc eiht?SPICE 1 (guy whose songs 99% were about murder?), brotha lynch (even worse).
you dont like this kinda music?why you here?i dont get it?are you even a west coast fan?if not, WHY ARE YOU HERE?tell me.