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funeral music with jayo felony should have been on war music favorite song last year , beat is classic !
I think 'War Music' had better songs than BISD, Fif really forgot how to make street records
Quote from: The Aftermath Psychopath on January 06, 2012, 01:07:06 PMI think 'War Music' had better songs than BISD, Fif really forgot how to make street recordsYea but I agree with what Slim said, how you supposed to make street records if your rich as fuck? 50 prolly has a butler, a chaffuer, cleaning lady and a guy that folds his laundry. He prolly has rich hobbies now too like golf and skeet shooting.
I don't think Slim is worrying about how much money 50 makes. Slim does his shit and 50 does him. Im just wondering if 50 will start drama after Slim practically called him out for busting that bitch move. I always felt Eminem was too much of a pussy to let 50 know he was being a fucking idiot in the past. Dre wasn't going to say shit either. Slim is really the first dude to say 50 disrespected the camp. 50 trying to sell his fucking headphones is another example. The beef 50 created with Game, Nas, Jada, Fat Joe, Buck, was completely unnecessary. The Ja rule beef was personal, so I understand that but the rest were pure stupidity. What's funny is that 50 considers himself a savvy business man but that move had to be one of the dumbest in the business sense. G-Unit would have still made money with Game and could have had collaborations with the rest of those guys. Instead he ruined the team and it obviously spread to the top. Ultimately Em and Dre suffered too. 50 could have made more millions on the music side and still have the money with that lucky Vitamin water deal. After that, G-Unit fell off! When that shit happened, I was fucking pissed off. I'm glad Slim put him on blast. With time I realized that 50 was not the dude I thought he was. That fool is unpredictable. Unless you suck his balls and ass daily like Tony Yayo, that fool is unpredictable.
Quote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on January 06, 2012, 08:59:04 PMI don't think Slim is worrying about how much money 50 makes. Slim does his shit and 50 does him. Im just wondering if 50 will start drama after Slim practically called him out for busting that bitch move. I always felt Eminem was too much of a pussy to let 50 know he was being a fucking idiot in the past. Dre wasn't going to say shit either. Slim is really the first dude to say 50 disrespected the camp. 50 trying to sell his fucking headphones is another example. The beef 50 created with Game, Nas, Jada, Fat Joe, Buck, was completely unnecessary. The Ja rule beef was personal, so I understand that but the rest were pure stupidity. What's funny is that 50 considers himself a savvy business man but that move had to be one of the dumbest in the business sense. G-Unit would have still made money with Game and could have had collaborations with the rest of those guys. Instead he ruined the team and it obviously spread to the top. Ultimately Em and Dre suffered too. 50 could have made more millions on the music side and still have the money with that lucky Vitamin water deal. After that, G-Unit fell off! When that shit happened, I was fucking pissed off. I'm glad Slim put him on blast. With time I realized that 50 was not the dude I thought he was. That fool is unpredictable. Unless you suck his balls and ass daily like Tony Yayo, that fool is unpredictable. I can't say I see the Game situation as bad business. It is the only time I can think of where 50 pulled back on a situation publicly and offered an olive branch and Game still bit him. Since then, Game has gone back and forth on the issue and 50 has stayed consistent. Yes, the rift fucked up a lot of money over there but the fact was 50 put a lot of resources toward that Game project and making it a hit. The moment, Game's career was strong enough to work without G-Unit, he distanced himself from them at a time when 50 was promoting his next album. You can't do that. The vibe with 50 over there at Interscope now is getting a little crazy though.
Game's career was strong enough to work without 50 because 50's help made him that strong. That's where it becomes a problem. As great a producer and talent developer as Dre is, G-Unit were the movement and 50 knew how to get that project working and "Hate It or Love It" was a 50 Cent hit single. That was, in my opinion, his strongest record of that year, and he gave that to The Game for his album when he could have kept it for The Massacre. Nobody asked Game to diss Nas or any of them but the point was he distanced himself from the team that was doing that. The way the move went was he put himself in front of the boss so he could still have the fans without alienating whoever but that don't always work. And even then, 50 deaded it and he still came back with the "G-Unot" campaign. The beef started with Game going back on what he told Dre and starting that whole battle against G-Unit. And Game wasn't actually ever a member of the G-Unit group. He was on the label.
Quote from: Jimmy H. on January 07, 2012, 09:52:28 PMGame's career was strong enough to work without 50 because 50's help made him that strong. That's where it becomes a problem. As great a producer and talent developer as Dre is, G-Unit were the movement and 50 knew how to get that project working and "Hate It or Love It" was a 50 Cent hit single. That was, in my opinion, his strongest record of that year, and he gave that to The Game for his album when he could have kept it for The Massacre. Nobody asked Game to diss Nas or any of them but the point was he distanced himself from the team that was doing that. The way the move went was he put himself in front of the boss so he could still have the fans without alienating whoever but that don't always work. And even then, 50 deaded it and he still came back with the "G-Unot" campaign. The beef started with Game going back on what he told Dre and starting that whole battle against G-Unit. And Game wasn't actually ever a member of the G-Unit group. He was on the label. Speaking the truth here. Plus Game went at Bleek and Buddens when he was tryna build his buzz on the strength of his association with the Unit so to backflip once he was established is a contradiction of his prior character
Sure, 50 made him that strong but who made 50 strong? Em and Dre right? That 50/G-Unit "movement" would have never gone anywhere without Em and Dre. 50 had albums before Aftermath. Was he the man he was with Aftermath? Did he sell the same? Nope.
I don't remember hearing anyone say that Game had distanced himself from the team. I saw him in every video before that. Only because he had his own Black Wall Street label going on, doesn't mean there was segregation. You expect me to believe that grown ass men would not be able to understand their situations? Distanced himself in what way? What did he do exactly? I don't see Em with 50 all the time. Does that mean he distanced himself also?
50 didn't drop anything until waaaay after. He kept dissing Game in songs, interviews, etc etc. Game didn't back down and went on forever with the G-UNot beef.
No way was Game going to listen to Dre and let 50 takes shots at him haha. Can you blame him?
If Game was guilty of this than 50 is as well for disrespecting Em and Dre. Which is the pretty much what Slim said.
Quote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on January 08, 2012, 06:13:22 PMSure, 50 made him that strong but who made 50 strong? Em and Dre right? That 50/G-Unit "movement" would have never gone anywhere without Em and Dre. 50 had albums before Aftermath. Was he the man he was with Aftermath? Did he sell the same? Nope. 50’s first album was “Get Rich Or Die Tryin”. He recorded another one, “Power Of The Dollar” while he was at Columbia but they shelved it when they dropped him from the label after he got shot. And as I said before, Dre is a great developer of talent and producer when it comes to music but he didn’t create 50’s buzz, he added to it. By fall of 2002, before the 8-Mile soundtrack had even hit, 50’s hype was huge off the mixtape scene. He hadn’t even been signed but a few months. “8 Mile” and the “Wanksta” buzz fueled it further. Dre’s part was giving him the monster hit that was “In Da Club” that helped sell his first album but at that point, he was already getting 3-million-dollar label deals to start G-Unit with various different record companies. The G-Unit movement was already official. G-Unit was an official label before 50’s album hit stores. To put things in perspective, Em didn’t have a label deal for Shady until after Marshall Mathers LP broke sales record. Game still doesn’t have one. Dre’s greatest strength in all this was lending his production and giving him an artist co-sign. On the business level, you don’t even have to ask. 50 knew how to create momentum for his artists. They were taking records 50 had for months that he didn’t make with Dre and Em and putting them on “Get Rich”. The guy had a remarkable buzz. Plain and simple. Yes, being put on the team helped that but Stat Quo had the same Shady/Aftermath joint deal and he never even got released. Quote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on January 08, 2012, 06:13:22 PM I don't remember hearing anyone say that Game had distanced himself from the team. I saw him in every video before that. Only because he had his own Black Wall Street label going on, doesn't mean there was segregation. You expect me to believe that grown ass men would not be able to understand their situations? Distanced himself in what way? What did he do exactly? I don't see Em with 50 all the time. Does that mean he distanced himself also? I’m not talking about a literal distancing. Em has always been careful with his P.R. Let’s put it like this. You ever hear Eminem talk about working with people in the same conversation he’s addressing their problems with 50? It doesn’t happen. If you remember when Em’s own DJ got caught talking about how much he loved Jadakiss and D-Block dissing 50, he got removed from the team pretty quick after that. Em himself has never said anything derogatory about Fat Joe or Nas or any of them but he doesn’t create this public image that he will stand against 50’s moves because it’s not good for their business. When Game is still promoting an album on Interscope and G-Unit’s dollar and he’s doing an interview making a public statement that he is not with 50’s move, that is using the energy that 50 put into making him a star and turning it against 50. It would be like 50 after breaking a new sales record decided to go on the radio when Em was having that issue with The Source leaking that “Black Girls” tape and saying, “I’d still do a Source magazine cover. I don’t like what Em is doing with that and I don’t support it”. He is using the energy and momentum that being on that team created for him to get over even further at the expense of that team. In other words, the public statement read as “if you’re a fan of somebody who hates my team, you can still buy my album because I just make music with them.” Quote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on January 08, 2012, 06:13:22 PM 50 didn't drop anything until waaaay after. He kept dissing Game in songs, interviews, etc etc. Game didn't back down and went on forever with the G-UNot beef. Not really. He did the one interview kicking him out of G-Unit and then things got heated for a minute. “Massacre” dropped on March 3 and they had their little beef-squashing press conference on March 9, the anniversary of Big’s death. I can’t think of any memorable interviews or diss records 50 put out before Game started the G-Unot campaign. Quote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on January 08, 2012, 06:13:22 PM No way was Game going to listen to Dre and let 50 takes shots at him haha. Can you blame him? It’s not my job to assign blame. However, Game has stated numerous times in song and interview that he made a promise to Dr. Dre that he wouldn’t diss G-Unit. That means not only did he listen to Dre and agree with him but gave his word to honor that. If it was no way he was going to do that, it’s pointless to make that promise. Again, when you’re going against your mentor to create mixtapes and DVD’s that are going to damage the career of an artist on your own label and the guy who invested millions to get your debut album on the shelves, it’s a bad business move. Quote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on January 08, 2012, 06:13:22 PMIf Game was guilty of this than 50 is as well for disrespecting Em and Dre. Which is the pretty much what Slim said. Outside of the headphone deal, I don’t see any example of where this is the case at all. And if we’re going to do that comparison, it would be more like Game doing the Boost Mobil ad in 2004 which 50 took issue with but didn’t throw him off the label behind. I’m not saying it’s ever good to bite the hand that feeds you though.