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only a fucking douche would say the doggfather is a good albumapart from 1-2 tracks the project is complete garbageone of the worst followups to a CLASSIC ever
Quote from: ANgry! on September 13, 2012, 10:33:39 PMonly a fucking douche would say the doggfather is a good albumapart from 1-2 tracks the project is complete garbageone of the worst followups to a CLASSIC everthis post should be a legit bannable offense
Quote from: Abdul-Infinite & Mekkan Refugee on September 13, 2012, 08:15:55 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 11, 2012, 03:38:32 PMi think the main problem is that they aint lettin rza do his thing....instead, they tryna get swizz beats and neptunes and shit, and rza wants 2 keep it true to the authentic wu-tang shit, which some other members are tired of. just the difference in opinion goin in already fux with the chemistry and the probability of puttin forth their best effort. let the producer of the group produce. all the greatest albums were made that way. Word... like not having Warren G produce the 2-1-3 album, although the album did have some nice cuts on there....this is the problem with hip-hop today. Puffy started this thing in 97', 98' where he started doing songs for everybody, appearing in everyone's video's, and next thing you know Snoop started doing the same shit and the rest of the game followed. Back in the golden age of hip-hop rappers usually kept it in house. Worked with artists they were down with, rappers from the same hood, region, or at least artists with similar styles. Chemistry was very important to making a great record. Rza is the genius behind Wu-tang, to not have him manage and produce the Wu-Tang album is bullshit. yea...that 213 album was dope. but it had potential to be classic if warren handled the bulk of the production. the fact that he didn't produce one song was a mockery. i remember he came on here saying he was gunna release a version of the album where he re-mixed all the songs with his own beats. i guess that never came to fruition (although, i do remember a remix or 2 surfacing).you're 100% right, though....the game changed for the worse. more crews need 2 keep shit in-house. very little people are doin it that way nowadays.
Quote from: NIKCC on September 11, 2012, 03:38:32 PMi think the main problem is that they aint lettin rza do his thing....instead, they tryna get swizz beats and neptunes and shit, and rza wants 2 keep it true to the authentic wu-tang shit, which some other members are tired of. just the difference in opinion goin in already fux with the chemistry and the probability of puttin forth their best effort. let the producer of the group produce. all the greatest albums were made that way. Word... like not having Warren G produce the 2-1-3 album, although the album did have some nice cuts on there....this is the problem with hip-hop today. Puffy started this thing in 97', 98' where he started doing songs for everybody, appearing in everyone's video's, and next thing you know Snoop started doing the same shit and the rest of the game followed. Back in the golden age of hip-hop rappers usually kept it in house. Worked with artists they were down with, rappers from the same hood, region, or at least artists with similar styles. Chemistry was very important to making a great record. Rza is the genius behind Wu-tang, to not have him manage and produce the Wu-Tang album is bullshit.
i think the main problem is that they aint lettin rza do his thing....instead, they tryna get swizz beats and neptunes and shit, and rza wants 2 keep it true to the authentic wu-tang shit, which some other members are tired of. just the difference in opinion goin in already fux with the chemistry and the probability of puttin forth their best effort. let the producer of the group produce. all the greatest albums were made that way.
if that was his debut his career would have been done right there and then
Quote from: ANgry! on September 14, 2012, 12:27:48 AMif that was his debut his career would have been done right there and thenDoubt it
i sure love "The Vapors" why wasn't Midnight Love on Doggfatha?
If "doggfather" woulda been snoops debut, it'd be classic. the only reason it was a letdown was because "doggystyle" was a flawless debut
Last Meal, Top Dogg, and Doggfather were all great albums.. thats all there really is to it. Blue Carpet Treatment was really good, as well.
Quote from: NIKCC on September 14, 2012, 07:04:22 PMLast Meal, Top Dogg, and Doggfather were all great albums.. thats all there really is to it. Blue Carpet Treatment was really good, as well. blue carpet sucksbut doggfather was nice just disappointing
Quote from: OG Black Wilson on September 14, 2012, 07:32:24 PMQuote from: NIKCC on September 14, 2012, 07:04:22 PMLast Meal, Top Dogg, and Doggfather were all great albums.. thats all there really is to it. Blue Carpet Treatment was really good, as well. blue carpet sucksbut doggfather was nice just disappointing i wouldnt say it sucked...it is a notch under top dogg, last meal, n doggfather tho