T.I. - Trouble Man: Heavy Is The Head (Discussion Thread)

[Black Excellence]

the term euro fag is like saying nigger in the hood here



consequences and repercussions.

so many people sayin' nigga on this board boy beat you feet.

[Russell Bell]

i think an album can be considered classic as soon as it drops... like "2001", for instance. everyone knew that was a classic the day it dropped. doubt this TI album meets that standard (havent really peeped it yet, though)

you can't judge if you haven't heard it i think u should give it a spin. the album is above and beyond the standards trust me.

whose standards, yours or the average non TI cock slurping rap fan?

why are you even talkin' to me while you thinkin' about dick you faggot euro ?

im just posing a simple question to you.

do you have the same standards as the average rap fan, or are yours specially adjusted and lowered for your boo, i mean favorite rapper?

i have way higher standards than the average hip hop fan. i come from the era where lyrics, production, and classic albums were important....wit that said t.i. has consistently dropped great records wit all those qualtiies i just named you just too dumb to see. i been bumpin' t.i. since some of you muthathafuckas even knew who he was back in '03 dude is a legend and i will always cop t.i. music so fuck you.

thats a brool story

you probably never even heard a t.i. record before goof ball. go fry you up some dog and relax sonny.

lol at this kid.

ive heard TI before i just dont have homosexual thoughts about him that in turn cause my judgement about music to be skewed. 

you just have homosexual thoughts. ain't mothin' homo about discussin' music this just proves that you always got dick on your mind. i know you just love to see ball players mid air dick jinglin' and shit because you're a euro fag....that's kinda shit you into. let's discuss music and nothin' more please.

Did you just say "dick jinglin" in a post calling somebody a homo?

Self ether?

And aint nobody from Europe here except your fellow TI Stan Club members. 

[Black Excellence]

i think an album can be considered classic as soon as it drops... like "2001", for instance. everyone knew that was a classic the day it dropped. doubt this TI album meets that standard (havent really peeped it yet, though)

you can't judge if you haven't heard it i think u should give it a spin. the album is above and beyond the standards trust me.

whose standards, yours or the average non TI cock slurping rap fan?

why are you even talkin' to me while you thinkin' about dick you faggot euro ?

im just posing a simple question to you.

do you have the same standards as the average rap fan, or are yours specially adjusted and lowered for your boo, i mean favorite rapper?

i have way higher standards than the average hip hop fan. i come from the era where lyrics, production, and classic albums were important....wit that said t.i. has consistently dropped great records wit all those qualtiies i just named you just too dumb to see. i been bumpin' t.i. since some of you muthathafuckas even knew who he was back in '03 dude is a legend and i will always cop t.i. music so fuck you.

thats a brool story

you probably never even heard a t.i. record before goof ball. go fry you up some dog and relax sonny.

lol at this kid.

ive heard TI before i just dont have homosexual thoughts about him that in turn cause my judgement about music to be skewed. 

you just have homosexual thoughts. ain't mothin' homo about discussin' music this just proves that you always got dick on your mind. i know you just love to see ball players mid air dick jinglin' and shit because you're a euro fag....that's kinda shit you into. let's discuss music and nothin' more please.

Did you just say "dick jinglin" in a post calling somebody a homo?

Self ether?

And aint nobody from Europe here except your fellow TI Stan Club members. 

i do not want to discuss your homosexual lifestyle let keep this about the music.

[Black Excellence]

ill be honest the last album i heard that could claim classic status to me is currency pilot talk part one


kendrik lamars last two joints i believe could be looked at as essential listening in the following years like how illmatic was its kind of a time capsule for the youth of that generation.


tip wasnt intending to change the cultutre with this record he wasnt looking to reinvent the wheel he did this album to stay relevent, i commend him on his heartfelt records especially the one with akon its not easy to put complex emotions into rhyme form and i love that shit but this album wont ever be looked at as classic cuz he didnt do anything NEW. hes not ushering in new sounds hes not using new flows. does ANYONE think hes really got the trap back jumpin? i stay close to the streets and d boys aint playing that bullshit...and we all know hes not bunkin


@ william b manny fresh aint dropped anything thats moved me in YEARS but his impact on southern hip hop cant be denied....nigga invented many drum patterns that are still very relevant today.

he didn't have to do anything new what he did was refreshing for hip hop and it's his eighth album. trouble man had plenty of new sounds and new flows the nigga was spittin' fire on this one and the production was top notch as well. no mainstream album came out as good last year and was well put together and diversified like trouble man. niggas and bitches buy his records so of course he's gonna cater to us he'd be a fool not totrap back jumpin' is fire too he don't sell dope no more but if anybody can talk about it in their music: it's him he lived that life so can rhyme about it as long as he wants. when ross do it and it's cool. how come t.i. can't do it and do it so vividly at that ?

everyone knows ross is a phony fuck we know hes a story teller ti said in swagga like us if you dont live the shit you kick your basically trash...i could show you interviews on you tube where TI says plain as day dissing the trap rappers after gucci dissed him the first time "i was never talking about shipping kis and all that because i was never in that disposition, i was on the block eight of us would go in on a brick blah blah blah..." i cant really respect that shit. hes hollywood like snoop dogg and he should just stay out of trouble and start letting the endorsements roll in and shit before he ends up LL cool J status hosting the grammys or some shit while his new single tanks.


i think this album was strong enough and performed well enough that he should fall back a little now. hes earned it...if he puts out another no mercy (yes i know you loved it, you dont have to remind me) ppl are gonna go from remembering that he dropped a great comeback album to saying he was inconsistent over the last half of his career.

10+ years in the game and still relevant and consistant i'd say he done well.

[Russell Bell]

i think an album can be considered classic as soon as it drops... like "2001", for instance. everyone knew that was a classic the day it dropped. doubt this TI album meets that standard (havent really peeped it yet, though)

you can't judge if you haven't heard it i think u should give it a spin. the album is above and beyond the standards trust me.

whose standards, yours or the average non TI cock slurping rap fan?

why are you even talkin' to me while you thinkin' about dick you faggot euro ?

im just posing a simple question to you.

do you have the same standards as the average rap fan, or are yours specially adjusted and lowered for your boo, i mean favorite rapper?

i have way higher standards than the average hip hop fan. i come from the era where lyrics, production, and classic albums were important....wit that said t.i. has consistently dropped great records wit all those qualtiies i just named you just too dumb to see. i been bumpin' t.i. since some of you muthathafuckas even knew who he was back in '03 dude is a legend and i will always cop t.i. music so fuck you.

thats a brool story

you probably never even heard a t.i. record before goof ball. go fry you up some dog and relax sonny.

lol at this kid.

ive heard TI before i just dont have homosexual thoughts about him that in turn cause my judgement about music to be skewed. 

you just have homosexual thoughts. ain't mothin' homo about discussin' music this just proves that you always got dick on your mind. i know you just love to see ball players mid air dick jinglin' and shit because you're a euro fag....that's kinda shit you into. let's discuss music and nothin' more please.

Did you just say "dick jinglin" in a post calling somebody a homo?

Self ether?

And aint nobody from Europe here except your fellow TI Stan Club members. 

i do not want to discuss your homosexual lifestyle let keep this about the music.

You love to not understand irony. 

[Will_B]

WTF just happened here?

I never saw so many caught feelings over an album


They coming thick and fast (no homo) to diss OG Classic for supporting his boy, and all the while this is still a great record

[Black Excellence]

WTF just happened here?

I never saw so many caught feelings over an album


They coming thick and fast (no homo) to diss OG Classic for supporting his boy, and all the while this is still a great record

yeah man. some of these fags ain't got no one else to talk to so they try to come for me but i'm too strong for that shit. at this point if you don't go to the store and buy albums or do it digitally we have nothin' to discuss.

[Sir Petey]

ill be honest the last album i heard that could claim classic status to me is currency pilot talk part one


kendrik lamars last two joints i believe could be looked at as essential listening in the following years like how illmatic was its kind of a time capsule for the youth of that generation.


tip wasnt intending to change the cultutre with this record he wasnt looking to reinvent the wheel he did this album to stay relevent, i commend him on his heartfelt records especially the one with akon its not easy to put complex emotions into rhyme form and i love that shit but this album wont ever be looked at as classic cuz he didnt do anything NEW. hes not ushering in new sounds hes not using new flows. does ANYONE think hes really got the trap back jumpin? i stay close to the streets and d boys aint playing that bullshit...and we all know hes not bunkin


@ william b manny fresh aint dropped anything thats moved me in YEARS but his impact on southern hip hop cant be denied....nigga invented many drum patterns that are still very relevant today.

he didn't have to do anything new what he did was refreshing for hip hop and it's his eighth album. trouble man had plenty of new sounds and new flows the nigga was spittin' fire on this one and the production was top notch as well. no mainstream album came out as good last year and was well put together and diversified like trouble man. niggas and bitches buy his records so of course he's gonna cater to us he'd be a fool not totrap back jumpin' is fire too he don't sell dope no more but if anybody can talk about it in their music: it's him he lived that life so can rhyme about it as long as he wants. when ross do it and it's cool. how come t.i. can't do it and do it so vividly at that ?

everyone knows ross is a phony fuck we know hes a story teller ti said in swagga like us if you dont live the shit you kick your basically trash...i could show you interviews on you tube where TI says plain as day dissing the trap rappers after gucci dissed him the first time "i was never talking about shipping kis and all that because i was never in that disposition, i was on the block eight of us would go in on a brick blah blah blah..." i cant really respect that shit. hes hollywood like snoop dogg and he should just stay out of trouble and start letting the endorsements roll in and shit before he ends up LL cool J status hosting the grammys or some shit while his new single tanks.


i think this album was strong enough and performed well enough that he should fall back a little now. hes earned it...if he puts out another no mercy (yes i know you loved it, you dont have to remind me) ppl are gonna go from remembering that he dropped a great comeback album to saying he was inconsistent over the last half of his career.

10+ years in the game and still relevant and consistant i'd say he done well.

he coulda did better.

[Black Excellence]

ill be honest the last album i heard that could claim classic status to me is currency pilot talk part one


kendrik lamars last two joints i believe could be looked at as essential listening in the following years like how illmatic was its kind of a time capsule for the youth of that generation.


tip wasnt intending to change the cultutre with this record he wasnt looking to reinvent the wheel he did this album to stay relevent, i commend him on his heartfelt records especially the one with akon its not easy to put complex emotions into rhyme form and i love that shit but this album wont ever be looked at as classic cuz he didnt do anything NEW. hes not ushering in new sounds hes not using new flows. does ANYONE think hes really got the trap back jumpin? i stay close to the streets and d boys aint playing that bullshit...and we all know hes not bunkin


@ william b manny fresh aint dropped anything thats moved me in YEARS but his impact on southern hip hop cant be denied....nigga invented many drum patterns that are still very relevant today.

he didn't have to do anything new what he did was refreshing for hip hop and it's his eighth album. trouble man had plenty of new sounds and new flows the nigga was spittin' fire on this one and the production was top notch as well. no mainstream album came out as good last year and was well put together and diversified like trouble man. niggas and bitches buy his records so of course he's gonna cater to us he'd be a fool not totrap back jumpin' is fire too he don't sell dope no more but if anybody can talk about it in their music: it's him he lived that life so can rhyme about it as long as he wants. when ross do it and it's cool. how come t.i. can't do it and do it so vividly at that ?

everyone knows ross is a phony fuck we know hes a story teller ti said in swagga like us if you dont live the shit you kick your basically trash...i could show you interviews on you tube where TI says plain as day dissing the trap rappers after gucci dissed him the first time "i was never talking about shipping kis and all that because i was never in that disposition, i was on the block eight of us would go in on a brick blah blah blah..." i cant really respect that shit. hes hollywood like snoop dogg and he should just stay out of trouble and start letting the endorsements roll in and shit before he ends up LL cool J status hosting the grammys or some shit while his new single tanks.


i think this album was strong enough and performed well enough that he should fall back a little now. hes earned it...if he puts out another no mercy (yes i know you loved it, you dont have to remind me) ppl are gonna go from remembering that he dropped a great comeback album to saying he was inconsistent over the last half of his career.

10+ years in the game and still relevant and consistant i'd say he done well.

he coulda did better.

yeah minus the jail time twice but i think he weathered the storm and still dropped some heat.

[Black Excellence]

t.i. is currently shootin' videos for some of the joints off the album includin' the next single 'hello' & 'addresses' (which has a snippet out now) and he is about 60- 70 percent done wit the next album: 'trouble man: he who wears the crown' and is recording about five more joints to the mix..epic shit. another modern day classic is comin'. 

[Black Excellence]

damn this album is incredible. 

[Sir Petey]

damn this album is incredible. 

tell us more.

[Black Excellence]

damn this album is incredible. 

tell us more.

go cop that joint that's all you need to do.

[Morphine]

lol peeps still e-beefin here . heavy is the head.


 reminds me to listen to the album again

[Black Excellence]

trouble man is an album that everyone should have in their hip hop collection.