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Shit all those guys I named > Em
Quote from: Sir Petey on March 21, 2013, 09:16:03 AMthe only barriers he broke was first white rapper to gain acceptance and first rapper to rap so frequently about drugs and weiner.his shit never sounded that original to me because i grew up off kool g rap and masta ace DITC etc...if nas or lord finesse or someone said that shit it would have either been over looked or censored. im not saying hes not good but hes not better then master ace or kool g rap. hes not better then nas or any of the niggas he got inspired by. This. You had alot of rappers who spit crazy shit that got overlooked but then the white dude comes along n says it n its exaggerrated n blown up.Quote from: M Dogg on March 21, 2013, 11:40:28 AMSee, people say overrated and I'd never put Eminem on there. From 1999-2002 he was a beast and no one was touching him. Every rapper falls off eventually. Rakim was great from 1986-1990, KRS-One was the same at that same time period. Snoop was on top from 1992-1995. Rap is a young man's game, so when I look at overrated, I don't look at who was great and then fell off, I look at who just was never good.BS. Black Thought from the Roots been one of the best lyricists since 89-90 n still as good as he was then. Cormega been dope since he first came out n probably better now. Common been dope since early 90s, Raekwon, Pharaohe Monch, AZ, Talib Kweli. OC all still rappin at the level they was when they first came out. If a rapper only has a run of 3-5 years of hot music but people call them one of the greats theyre the perfect example of bein overrated.
the only barriers he broke was first white rapper to gain acceptance and first rapper to rap so frequently about drugs and weiner.his shit never sounded that original to me because i grew up off kool g rap and masta ace DITC etc...if nas or lord finesse or someone said that shit it would have either been over looked or censored. im not saying hes not good but hes not better then master ace or kool g rap. hes not better then nas or any of the niggas he got inspired by.
See, people say overrated and I'd never put Eminem on there. From 1999-2002 he was a beast and no one was touching him. Every rapper falls off eventually. Rakim was great from 1986-1990, KRS-One was the same at that same time period. Snoop was on top from 1992-1995. Rap is a young man's game, so when I look at overrated, I don't look at who was great and then fell off, I look at who just was never good.
Quote from: BiggSadot on March 21, 2013, 01:48:41 PMShit all those guys I named > Emnone of them ever made an album as dope as the Slim Shady LP thoughsame reason I won't ever call Snoop the most over rated rapper without stipulating Snoop post-death row....cuz Snoop dropped Doggystyle and that's a top 5 album ever.
Quote from: George Jetson on March 21, 2013, 01:56:15 PMQuote from: BiggSadot on March 21, 2013, 01:48:41 PMShit all those guys I named > Emnone of them ever made an album as dope as the Slim Shady LP thoughsame reason I won't ever call Snoop the most over rated rapper without stipulating Snoop post-death row....cuz Snoop dropped Doggystyle and that's a top 5 album ever.they all have dropped albums that were better than the slim shady lp. all of them !!!
Quote from: DJ SUGAFREE QUIK on March 21, 2013, 03:27:21 AMI guess another one is T.I. he got some good songs & there's a couple of T.I. albums I like. But overrated as in him thinking he's king of the south. I'm not the only one who feels that its Outkast who's the real kings of the south. Could it be Scarface or UGK? Perhaps, I haven't heard enough of their songs to make judgment on them. He's done some overrated songs like Rubberband Man, you know what it is, & whatever you like....gay song. I think it's hard to compare TI to anyone in the south not in his era. I'd agree he's not as good as Scarface or UGK or Outkast. But in his era it was TI, Lil' Wayne and Young Geezy and I'd easily put TI over those guys. In his time, he was King of the South. I mean that's not saying he's a great rapper all time, but the best in his region during his time.
I guess another one is T.I. he got some good songs & there's a couple of T.I. albums I like. But overrated as in him thinking he's king of the south. I'm not the only one who feels that its Outkast who's the real kings of the south. Could it be Scarface or UGK? Perhaps, I haven't heard enough of their songs to make judgment on them. He's done some overrated songs like Rubberband Man, you know what it is, & whatever you like....gay song.
Quote from: OG Classic Material on March 21, 2013, 02:16:18 PMQuote from: George Jetson on March 21, 2013, 01:56:15 PMQuote from: BiggSadot on March 21, 2013, 01:48:41 PMShit all those guys I named > Emnone of them ever made an album as dope as the Slim Shady LP thoughsame reason I won't ever call Snoop the most over rated rapper without stipulating Snoop post-death row....cuz Snoop dropped Doggystyle and that's a top 5 album ever.they all have dropped albums that were better than the slim shady lp. all of them !!! lmao i might give you Rae if it wasn't for the fact he needed Ghostface to be featured on every songCormega? Nah....not even close. I will say that Cormega IS very consistent though. OC? I love anything DITC related but even Jewelz (his best album) isn't close. and I love that shit. and don't get me started on AZ and how over rated he is.
Quote from: M Dogg on March 21, 2013, 09:13:26 AMQuote from: DJ SUGAFREE QUIK on March 21, 2013, 03:27:21 AMI guess another one is T.I. he got some good songs & there's a couple of T.I. albums I like. But overrated as in him thinking he's king of the south. I'm not the only one who feels that its Outkast who's the real kings of the south. Could it be Scarface or UGK? Perhaps, I haven't heard enough of their songs to make judgment on them. He's done some overrated songs like Rubberband Man, you know what it is, & whatever you like....gay song. I think it's hard to compare TI to anyone in the south not in his era. I'd agree he's not as good as Scarface or UGK or Outkast. But in his era it was TI, Lil' Wayne and Young Geezy and I'd easily put TI over those guys. In his time, he was King of the South. I mean that's not saying he's a great rapper all time, but the best in his region during his time.Yeah.. definitely a good call on T.I. being one of the most over-rated. After seeing everybody's lists, I think I will refine my list to be...1. Jay-Z2. Busta Rhymes3. T.I.
Naah, everything he did from Infinite up until Eminem show was lyrically great.. He started slippin with Encore and only completely fell of with Recovery. But his prime, I'd say, was around the time 8 Mile dropped
Quote from: BiggSadot on March 21, 2013, 01:39:42 PMQuote from: Sir Petey on March 21, 2013, 09:16:03 AMthe only barriers he broke was first white rapper to gain acceptance and first rapper to rap so frequently about drugs and weiner.his shit never sounded that original to me because i grew up off kool g rap and masta ace DITC etc...if nas or lord finesse or someone said that shit it would have either been over looked or censored. im not saying hes not good but hes not better then master ace or kool g rap. hes not better then nas or any of the niggas he got inspired by. This. You had alot of rappers who spit crazy shit that got overlooked but then the white dude comes along n says it n its exaggerrated n blown up.Quote from: M Dogg on March 21, 2013, 11:40:28 AMSee, people say overrated and I'd never put Eminem on there. From 1999-2002 he was a beast and no one was touching him. Every rapper falls off eventually. Rakim was great from 1986-1990, KRS-One was the same at that same time period. Snoop was on top from 1992-1995. Rap is a young man's game, so when I look at overrated, I don't look at who was great and then fell off, I look at who just was never good.BS. Black Thought from the Roots been one of the best lyricists since 89-90 n still as good as he was then. Cormega been dope since he first came out n probably better now. Common been dope since early 90s, Raekwon, Pharaohe Monch, AZ, Talib Kweli. OC all still rappin at the level they was when they first came out. If a rapper only has a run of 3-5 years of hot music but people call them one of the greats theyre the perfect example of bein overrated.You mistake consistency for greatness. First off, Black Thought has a great run of peak, and the rest was really good. Common in the 90's outshines Common now. Kweli in 2002 shits on Kweli now. But throughout that, they are still consistently good. That does not mean other rappers in their primes were not great, and don't deserves to be called great. It means that there are certain rappers who can perform really well for a long period of time. Eminem for 5 years was great, you can't take that away from him. He's still very consistent now, but not as good. But it is what it is. I judge prime for prime, like Nas 1994-1996, or Snoop 1992-1995. The other stuff just tells me were they rank all time. But if their prime was really high, I look at that over a horrible 10th album that was ghostwritten and never should have came out.
i've always considered Talib to be a poor man's Mos Def
To hammer home my point about Em n Jay, I remember maybe like 4-5 yrs ago hearin a song on the website hiphopgame with them two, that Cyhi Da Prince kid and some others I cant remember who. Anyways on Jay n Ems verses both of them was talkin about how fans pay no attention to lyrics anymore n how they both stopped puttin effort into their shit because the fans were so dumb as long as they see their names and like the beat theyll bump it anyway. Cant remember the name but it wasnt their song might have been Cyhi or some random Djs mixtape song. Point is since then Ive known neither one of them gives a fuck about the art or culture of hip hop. Im gonna see if I can find it n ill post a link.