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"Soul on Ice" Killz "Illmatic"
« on: March 07, 2003, 01:40:48 PM »
I love both lp's equal....always have.
But I'm just gonna come out and say it.
ImO..."Soul on Ice" shit's on "Illmatic" on every aspect that matter's.

Lyrics: Ras Kass
Flow: Ras Kass
Subject matter: Ras Kass

Just my opinion tho, to those peep's who ain't got a copy of "Soul on Ice" try & find a copy and listen to it really good. You might lkearn something from it. And crank it right after u bump ya "Illmatic".

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Re:"Soul on Ice" Killz "Illmatic"
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2003, 01:49:13 PM »
Yeah i can't say cuz i haven't heard soul on ice.... :(...hey maybe someone could hook me up with a copy of it.. ;)
But anyways I love Illmatic now i gotta hear soul on ice...

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Re:"Soul on Ice" Killz "Illmatic"
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2003, 02:26:28 PM »
 :o

Okay, I'm going to come out a say it.  Soul On Ice is NOT a classic album.  There is no comparing between these two.  First off the production and mixing on Illmatic shits on Soul On Ice hands down.  Lyrically it's could be a toss up.  Ras should have put both sides of his first 12" on there and the Diamond D remix of "Soul On Ice" cause it's way better that the album version.  And songs like "Marinatin'" and "Miami Life" are just filler.

Soul On Ice = 8/10
Illmatic = 10/10
 

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Re:"Soul on Ice" Killz "Illmatic"
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2003, 03:49:34 PM »
I have said "Soul On Ice" is better than Illmatic or damn near any album for that matter...

For about 3+ years.

 

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Re:"Soul on Ice" Killz "Illmatic"
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2003, 08:18:39 PM »
Who cares...They both classics...
 

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Re:"Soul on Ice" Killz "Illmatic"
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2003, 08:37:30 PM »
:o

Okay, I'm going to come out a say it.  Soul On Ice is NOT a classic album.  There is no comparing between these two.  First off the production and mixing on Illmatic shits on Soul On Ice hands down.  Lyrically it's could be a toss up.  Ras should have put both sides of his first 12" on there and the Diamond D remix of "Soul On Ice" cause it's way better that the album version.  And songs like "Marinatin'" and "Miami Life" are just filler.



Lyrics: Ras Kass
Flow: Ras Kass
Subject matter: Ras Kass
Marketing Value: Nas
Street Credibility: Nas
Freestyles: Ras Kass
Knowledge (different from subject): Close, but Ras Kass


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Re:"Soul on Ice" Killz "Illmatic"
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2003, 08:40:55 PM »
well i still want the cd...LOL....anybody wanna hook me up wit it...

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Re:"Soul on Ice" Killz "Illmatic"
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2003, 11:15:20 PM »
Marketing Value: Nas
Freestyles: Ras Kass

WTF?  What the hell is "Marketing Value" have to do with the albums and "Freestyles" have nothing to do with it either since these are albums which have songs and not freestyles.
 

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Re:"Soul on Ice" Killz "Illmatic"
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2003, 11:28:52 PM »
Marketing Value: Nas
Freestyles: Ras Kass

WTF?  What the hell is "Marketing Value" have to do with the albums and "Freestyles" have nothing to do with it either since these are albums which have songs and not freestyles.

yeah thats tru...you right about that...I never thought about it...

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Re:"Soul on Ice" Killz "Illmatic"
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2003, 01:13:04 AM »
:o

Okay, I'm going to come out a say it.  Soul On Ice is NOT a classic album.  There is no comparing between these two.  First off the production and mixing on Illmatic shits on Soul On Ice hands down.  Lyrically it's could be a toss up.  Ras should have put both sides of his first 12" on there and the Diamond D remix of "Soul On Ice" cause it's way better that the album version.  And songs like "Marinatin'" and "Miami Life" are just filler.

Soul On Ice = 8/10
Illmatic = 10/10

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Re:"Soul on Ice" Killz "Illmatic"
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2003, 01:44:25 AM »
I personally think Soul On Ice is better but in no way is it a classic. And i just can't listen to Illmatic, I can't stand the production (even though it uses some of my favourite producers) and i hate Nas voice on it, it just makes me want to shoot him. While Soul On Ice production isn't great, it is at least listenable and Ras flow is better in my opinion.
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Re: .Soul on Ice. "Killz" .Illmatic.
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2003, 11:46:49 AM »
I'll even throw out Xzibit's debut against "Illmatic"


At the Speed of Life...Xzibit

Blow for blow this also shit's all over the very overated "Illmatic" ImO.
In every aspect aswell.

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Re: .Soul on Ice. "Killz" .Illmatic.
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2003, 12:06:04 PM »
I'll even throw out Xzibit's debut against "Illmatic"


At the Speed of Life...Xzibit

Blow for blow this also shit's all over the very overated "Illmatic" ImO.
In every aspect aswell.

Westcoastin'
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yeah i like that cd too but i think Illmatic is better by a little...IMO

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Re:"Soul on Ice" Killz "Illmatic"
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2003, 12:46:19 PM »
Marketing Value: Nas
Freestyles: Ras Kass

WTF?  What the hell is "Marketing Value" have to do with the albums and "Freestyles" have nothing to do with it either since these are albums which have songs and not freestyles.

Marketing Value is damn important....do you think I could sign Copywrite to Def Jam and he would do extremely well as eminem, although marketing value isnt a feature of an mc....it helps record labels find their character and if they have the charisma to do well

Freestyles is very important in the fact that you can put out mixtapes (DJ Whoo Kid recognized 50 cent - contacted paul rosenberg)


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Re: .Soul on Ice. "Killz" .Illmatic.
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2003, 12:46:46 PM »
I'll even throw out Xzibit's debut against "Illmatic"


At the Speed of Life...Xzibit

Blow for blow this also shit's all over the very overated "Illmatic" ImO.
In every aspect aswell.

Westcoastin'
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yeah i like that cd too but i think Illmatic is better by a little...IMO

peace


This album recieved 3 Mics in the Source.....BS
Go support him and go buy it!