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Re: Phil Jackson finally compares Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2013, 04:47:19 PM »
jordan and shaq would have won a title every year


jordan woulda never got along with shaqs demands of being the first option against phil's will. threepeat woulda never happened. pippen was a much more submissive superstar, which is exactly what jordan needed.

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Re: Phil Jackson finally compares Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2013, 04:55:52 PM »
But that wouldn't have happened because MJ would've had seniority over Shaq, and even at that point, MJ was that dude.  Shaq wouldn't be able to argue with that.

Shaq and Kobe clashed a lot since they signed to the Lakers very close to each other but neither person wanted to yield to the other, even though both had decent arguments toward why they should be the star.
 

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Re: Phil Jackson finally compares Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2013, 05:26:53 PM »
Shaq was clearly the better of the two though...there's a reason Kobe never won an MVP while playing with the Big Shaqtus  and Shaq won one while playing with Kobe
 

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Re: Phil Jackson finally compares Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2013, 05:34:56 PM »
Shaq was clearly the better of the two though...there's a reason Kobe never won an MVP while playing with the Big Shaqtus  and Shaq won one while playing with Kobe


How many times we guna go through this? The numbers are neck and neck, with Kobe being the 2nd option cuz shaq had seniority. Phil wanted to run the offense through Kobe by 2001, but shaq wouldn't allow. It would be no different with a 21 year old MJ

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Re: Phil Jackson finally compares Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2013, 05:36:51 PM »
But that wouldn't have happened because MJ would've had seniority over Shaq, and even at that point, MJ was that dude.  Shaq wouldn't be able to argue with that.

Shaq and Kobe clashed a lot since they signed to the Lakers very close to each other but neither person wanted to yield to the other, even though both had decent arguments toward why they should be the star.

lol mj would never have seniority over an ego like shaqs if he was just out of high school with shaq already being an established superstar. U crazy? Shaq was the most dominant and demanding player of his era for a reason.

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Re: Phil Jackson finally compares Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2013, 05:54:43 PM »
Shaq was clearly the better of the two though...there's a reason Kobe never won an MVP while playing with the Big Shaqtus  and Shaq won one while playing with Kobe


How many times we guna go through this? The numbers are neck and neck, with Kobe being the 2nd option cuz shaq had seniority. Phil wanted to run the offense through Kobe by 2001, but shaq wouldn't allow. It would be no different with a 21 year old MJ

remember when i showed you those old write-ups on those championship years?  they all center around Big Shaq.  Kobe was Robin.
 

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Re: Phil Jackson finally compares Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2013, 07:13:44 PM »
Shaq was clearly the better of the two though...there's a reason Kobe never won an MVP while playing with the Big Shaqtus  and Shaq won one while playing with Kobe


How many times we guna go through this? The numbers are neck and neck, with Kobe being the 2nd option cuz shaq had seniority. Phil wanted to run the offense through Kobe by 2001, but shaq wouldn't allow. It would be no different with a 21 year old MJ

remember when i showed you those old write-ups on those championship years?  they all center around Big Shaq.  Kobe was Robin.


why would robin average more attempts per game than batman? theres no such thing as a robin who averages 30 ppg.

runnin outta troll material

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Re: Phil Jackson finally compares Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2013, 07:20:53 PM »
he didn't average 30 doggy

22, 28 and 25


Shaq scored more PPG each year too


nice try though.


Allen Iverson said "that team starts and ends with Shaq".


Shaq was dropping 30 and grabbing 15 boards and you still think Kobe was the #1 on that team?  that is lol worthy
 

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Re: Phil Jackson finally compares Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2013, 11:08:05 PM »
Michael Jordan is and will always be and go down as the greatest player that every lived end of thread Phils just another person saying the complete obvious anybody who argues has their opinion and I respect that but at the end of the day when people ask 100 years from now who was the greatest basketball player that ever graced the court the answer is always going to be MJ. End Thread
 

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Re: Phil Jackson finally compares Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2013, 11:50:00 PM »
Michael Jordan is and will always be and go down as the greatest player that every lived end of thread Phils just another person saying the complete obvious anybody who argues has their opinion and I respect that but at the end of the day when people ask 100 years from now who was the greatest basketball player that ever graced the court the answer is always going to be MJ. End Thread

bill russell had 11 rings

but MJ is the best since
 

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Re: Phil Jackson finally compares Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2013, 10:56:21 AM »
he didn't average 30 doggy

22, 28 and 25


Shaq scored more PPG each year too


nice try though.


Allen Iverson said "that team starts and ends with Shaq".


Shaq was dropping 30 and grabbing 15 boards and you still think Kobe was the #1 on that team?  that is lol worthy


in 02-03, he averaged 30 alongside shaq...somehow, i doubt MJ coulda done that. without shaq, it woulda been 40 ppg


again, the offense was ran through shaq, but kobe was not a "robin", it was a 1-2 punch, with both players being alpha males and both sharing leadership duties, depending on the match-up. with each passing year, it became more of kobe's team and less of shaq's. this is what had shaq trippin in the first place.

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Re: Phil Jackson finally compares Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2013, 11:00:14 AM »
Michael Jordan is and will always be and go down as the greatest player that every lived end of thread Phils just another person saying the complete obvious anybody who argues has their opinion and I respect that but at the end of the day when people ask 100 years from now who was the greatest basketball player that ever graced the court the answer is always going to be MJ. End Thread


thats what the general public is made to believe, yes...but it doesnt make it true. if someone argued wilt, magic, kareem, russell, kobe, bird, etc. as the greatest, theres no problem with that. jordan was simply the most marketed and had the most backing by the league, so the push he got was kinda like kendrick getting a push from interscope. without that push, he'd still be a great, but no one would be on his nuts as hard as they are now. jordan is a brand. magic, kobe, bird etc were not brands. thats the main difference... of course, when u have that much behind u, ur guna be made to look unotuchable. people who could look past marketing can see that there are tons of players who have been the greatest at what they do, and none are the undisputed GOAT.

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Re: Phil Jackson finally compares Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2013, 11:36:06 AM »
both 2-guards, both brilliant sociopaths.


Wait a second... how the hell was Jordan a socio-path?   That's bullshit!

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Re: Phil Jackson finally compares Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2013, 02:46:56 PM »
Michael Jordan is and will always be and go down as the greatest player that every lived end of thread Phils just another person saying the complete obvious anybody who argues has their opinion and I respect that but at the end of the day when people ask 100 years from now who was the greatest basketball player that ever graced the court the answer is always going to be MJ. End Thread

bill russell had 11 rings

but MJ is the best since
How many teams were in the league then? And do some reading, the Celtics had a near monopoly on top talent at the time
 

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Re: Phil Jackson finally compares Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2013, 02:50:14 PM »
This nigga is going so deep into his "if" arguement, we got MJ in a Laker uniform. Stop playing that game because you're losing.

We got stats, the accolades and the approval of the coach who watched them both in their primes.

I love how NIK talks like Phil forgot Kobe played with Shaq and didn't factor that in.