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If he did that like once a month and broke out for 65+, I'd agree with you, but it wasn't him "elevating his game" for the win, it was just a hot shooting night. He had many, many games over 40 points and he was over 35 points over half the season.
Look at those numbers, all half of 81. Why aren't there more 60+ games to defend it wasn't just a better night than usual?He did have nobody, but I mean if a Melo, Durant even LeBron put the ball up 35 times a game, they'd do something similar. Last year in the playoffs against the Pacers and Celtics LeBron realized he needed to score to win they game, took the game in his own hands and dropped 45+. Kobe just did it in the regular season because he had no choice. I never said he wasn't one of the greatest players ever. I actually acknowledged in this very thread, all-time you have to give it to Kobe right now because of what he accomplished. But like I said, LeBron is on pace to shatter it all. Also LeBron's IQ allows him to get his team the best look every possession. Notice all you've mentioned so far is Kobe's scoring ability. If the Heat and the Lakers score 100 points each, Kobe will be responsible for 50 points, LeBron will be responsible for 85 of them.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 20, 2013, 01:10:43 PMLook at those numbers, all half of 81. Why aren't there more 60+ games to defend it wasn't just a better night than usual?He did have nobody, but I mean if a Melo, Durant even LeBron put the ball up 35 times a game, they'd do something similar. Last year in the playoffs against the Pacers and Celtics LeBron realized he needed to score to win they game, took the game in his own hands and dropped 45+. Kobe just did it in the regular season because he had no choice. I never said he wasn't one of the greatest players ever. I actually acknowledged in this very thread, all-time you have to give it to Kobe right now because of what he accomplished. But like I said, LeBron is on pace to shatter it all. Also LeBron's IQ allows him to get his team the best look every possession. Notice all you've mentioned so far is Kobe's scoring ability. If the Heat and the Lakers score 100 points each, Kobe will be responsible for 50 points, LeBron will be responsible for 85 of them. LeBron is on pace to match Magic and Bird. That's great company. But until he does it, it means nothing.
numbers dont tell it all...dr. j's prime was actually in the ABA, where he put up better numbers than lebron
Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 20, 2013, 01:15:56 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on May 20, 2013, 01:10:43 PMLook at those numbers, all half of 81. Why aren't there more 60+ games to defend it wasn't just a better night than usual?He did have nobody, but I mean if a Melo, Durant even LeBron put the ball up 35 times a game, they'd do something similar. Last year in the playoffs against the Pacers and Celtics LeBron realized he needed to score to win they game, took the game in his own hands and dropped 45+. Kobe just did it in the regular season because he had no choice. I never said he wasn't one of the greatest players ever. I actually acknowledged in this very thread, all-time you have to give it to Kobe right now because of what he accomplished. But like I said, LeBron is on pace to shatter it all. Also LeBron's IQ allows him to get his team the best look every possession. Notice all you've mentioned so far is Kobe's scoring ability. If the Heat and the Lakers score 100 points each, Kobe will be responsible for 50 points, LeBron will be responsible for 85 of them. LeBron is on pace to match Magic and Bird. That's great company. But until he does it, it means nothing.I'd say a majority of people hold Bird and Magic in a brighter light than Kobe anyway. But still, so far all you've mentioned is Kobe's scoring. You're putting so much stock in Kobe heaving up 30+ a game and talking his scoring is unmeasurable and LeBron, barring injury is going to end his career with more points scored lol. You've been reading NIKs posts for too long.
Like NIK said Kobe is a better passer...completely blasphemous, but whatever for the sake of argument lets say Kobe is close. He decided to be an efficient passer in 15 games in his career so were just going to give him credit for that? Even though he never did it in his career? Even thought Bron's proved it since day one? That's like saying Shaq should be the best player ever because IF he hit his free throws, he'd had 15000 more points. He never hit em.
Because like we were talking about Kobe not passing...he doesn't do it and rather shoot the contested, double team. LeBron doesn't "disappear" he just gets others involved in the team game that is basketball. Like I said earlier, Kobe is responsible for 50 of the Lakers 100, LeBron is responsible for 85 of the 100. Tibs said himself, you can't stop him...so if you can't stop him, why would LeBron stop? He just gets the double team and instead of th 3-1 hero heave, he just kicks it to the corner with the precision of Peyton Manning and it's just game over.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 21, 2013, 06:15:55 PMBecause like we were talking about Kobe not passing...he doesn't do it and rather shoot the contested, double team. LeBron doesn't "disappear" he just gets others involved in the team game that is basketball. Like I said earlier, Kobe is responsible for 50 of the Lakers 100, LeBron is responsible for 85 of the 100. Tibs said himself, you can't stop him...so if you can't stop him, why would LeBron stop? He just gets the double team and instead of th 3-1 hero heave, he just kicks it to the corner with the precision of Peyton Manning and it's just game over. if lebron is responsible for 85 of 100, kobe is for 100 of 100....any point scored by another player on the lakers comes off a kobe double or triple team, leaving said player open. yes, thats how bad our team was minus kobe this season. nobody could create for themselves or anyone else...not even nash.