Author Topic: LeBron and Melo to LA?  (Read 1613 times)

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Re: LeBron and Melo to LA?
« Reply #75 on: July 23, 2013, 10:13:11 AM »
Difference is, the Lakers have a ton of banners, a ton of retired jerseys and the stars in the stands. This is what players dream of, playing in front of stars, on a glamor team and under championship banners.

Name the huge free agents not named Shaq that have come to LA.  Ron Artest is about it.

NASH, JUST RECENTLY, WHO WAS COMIN OFF A GREAT SEASON...... GASOL AND ODOM WERE RETAINED WHEN THEY COULDA WENT ELSEWHERE. THEY WERE FIRST PRIORITY, SO WE DIDNT GO AFTER ANYONE ELSE SINCE '08. SAME WITH THE THREEPEAT YEAR, WE RETAINED THE SAME TEAM FOR YEARS WITH A BELIEF THAT WE COULD CONTEND WITH THAT CORE UNTIL WE WENT OUT AND GOT PAYTON + MALONE, WHO CAME HERE FOR ALMOST NOTHING. IF U THINK LA IS NOT AN ATTRACTIVE DESTINATION, SLAP YASELF RIGHT NOW.

They retained their bird rights, why the fuck wouldn't they stay?


THEY BOTH COULDA BOLTED LIKE DWIGHT INSTEAD OF SIGNING EXTENSIONS IN '09

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Re: LeBron and Melo to LA?
« Reply #76 on: July 23, 2013, 10:14:12 AM »
of course they'll get SOMEONE


just not someone GOOD like Lebron or Carmelo.  no way would Lebron or Melo want to waste the primes of their careers with an old Kobe who still acts like he's the #1 option.  who would?


LOL@"ACTS LIKE THE FIRST OPTION"...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3118

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Re: LeBron and Melo to LA?
« Reply #77 on: July 23, 2013, 10:19:45 AM »
U STILL A KNICK FAN?

more espn propaganda

sometimes when talking sports with NIK i feel as if i'm debating with Skip Bayless about Tim Tebow

It's worse lol.

Lol @ saying on paper Melo and Kobe would work. The two biggest ball hogs in basketball "no doubt would work".

The best part is Nash can't play D, Kobe isn't an elite defender anymore, Melo doesn't play D, Pau is a pussy and Kaman is a mediocre defender. That team would get TORCHED by a fully loaded OKC team.

LOL THE NOTION OF KOBE BEING A BALL HOG IS RETARDED...HE LEADS THE LEAGUE IN ASSISTS FOR SHOOTING GUARDS, AND ONLY A DUMBASS CASUAL BASKETBALL HIGHLIGHT OBSERVER WHO DOESNT WATCH GAMES SUCH AS URSELF DOESN'T REALIZE HIS GREAT PASSING GAME.


KOBE + MELO >>>>> LEBRON + WADE ALL DAY.

I've already explained this to you. Kobe touches the ball on 99% of the teams possessions. The shooting guard role, for the most part is strictly to "shoot" the ball. Get the role? The only shooting guard who HAD (doesnt currently) that type of possession control at that position was Wade. Outside of a few playmakers here and there, but who don't touch the ball in the same UNIVERSE as Kobe, everyone else catches and shoots. Also Kobe made it a point to pass more after statistics PROVED Kobe taking over 20 shots a game led to more Laker losses than wins. Finally, he had two of the best 7 footers in the league, who attempt the highest percentage shot in the league within five feet of the rim (before you inevitably, out of anger, bring up LeBron to compare him passing to players who take the lowest percent shot in the game of basketball, despite the fact Bron is completely irrelevant in this point). Kobe is a ballhog at the end of the day whose trying desperately hard to prove he was a passer all these years because the repeating, defending champion now gets absolute praise for his ball-vision and IQ as a passer.

You're in denial. He single handedly made the best center in the league run away for dear life lol.


AND WHAT IS THAT "BEST CENTER" UNIVERSALLY KNOWN AS NOW? A COWARD...LOL. LIKE I SAID, ONLY A FRUIT LIKE U WOULD DEFEND HIS ANTICS. BUT THATS BESIDES THE POINT. KOBE GETTING 5+ ASSISTS AT THE SHOOTING GUARD POSITION THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER IS AMAZING...PLAYERS LIKE CARMELO, DURANT, ETC DOMINATE THE BALL JUST AS MUCH AS KOBE AND DONT GET NEARLY AS MANY ASSISTS....AND LMFAO@YOUR RETARDED EXPLANATION "HE GETS ASSISTS BECAUSE LEBRON IS PRAISED FOR HIS PASSING GAME AND HE WANTS TO PROVE HE CAN PASS TOO" :stupid: KOBE AVERAGED 6 ASSISTS PER GAME BEFORE LEBRON WAS EVEN IN THE LEAGUE.......ADMIT IT. U DONT REALLY FOLLOW BASKETBALL. JUST LEBRON.



Sccit

Re: LeBron and Melo to LA?
« Reply #78 on: July 23, 2013, 10:24:40 AM »
Players coming into the league a few years ago wanted to be like Mike.  Didn't see shitloads of players going to Chicago.  Alot of players today idolized AI, where are all the 76ers free agents?


lol you're comparing chicago and philly with LA,


dont think of me being an LA boy thinking that LA is the best, because thats where im from.


it literally does have the best weather in the world, if not among the best. and when people think of the US they think of LA and NYC, nobody gives a shit about philly, nobody gives a shit about chicago, maybe


they're not destination cities, LA and NYC are THE major cities of the US, im not saying i wouldnt go to chicago, or philly i want to eat a chicago style deep dish pizza pie, an real philly cheese steak, because im AMERICAN, and i know of these


but all the business, nationwide and international is in LA and NYC,  you cant compare, like i've said before theres One Or 2 major cities in each country, LA and NYC is americas.


im an LA boy, and id live in NYC, but phily? jersey city (actually anywhere in jersey) , houston? hell no.

i need diversity, i need authentic ethnic foods of all sorts,  chicago might be an exception, but miami is no to, its a great vacation city, not a city id live in


its not hard to grasp this concept of why LA and NYC are easier to attract anyone more than philly or chicago

I keep hearing destination city, but Shaq was the only huge free agent you guys can hang your hat on.  The reason Payton and Malone came was due to Shaq and Kobe.  Talent will go where talent is.

Have fun with the rebuild.


THIS WAS ALREADY EXPLAINED, IN A POINT THAT U DODGED


LAKERS HAVENT EVEN BEEN PURSUING ANY FREE AGENTS SINCE 1996, CUZ OUR MAIN GOAL WAS TO RETAIN THE PLAYERS WE HAD, DUE TO ALREADY BEING STACKED. WE NEVER WENT AFTER DIFFERENT PLAYERS, WE WERE CONTENT WITH KEEPING KOBE AND SHAQ AND SIGNING ROLE PLAYERS UNTIL 2003 WHEN WE SIGNED PAYTON AND MALONE....SINCE THE GASOL TRADE, WE'VE BEEN CONTENT WITH KEEPING GASOL AND ODOM UNTIL WE GOT DWIGHT AND NASH......THERE HAVENT REALLY BEEN ANY BIG FREE AGENTS WE WENT AFTER AND MISSED OUT ON......FOLLOW ME

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Re: LeBron and Melo to LA?
« Reply #79 on: July 23, 2013, 12:19:04 PM »
U STILL A KNICK FAN?

more espn propaganda

sometimes when talking sports with NIK i feel as if i'm debating with Skip Bayless about Tim Tebow

It's worse lol.

Lol @ saying on paper Melo and Kobe would work. The two biggest ball hogs in basketball "no doubt would work".

The best part is Nash can't play D, Kobe isn't an elite defender anymore, Melo doesn't play D, Pau is a pussy and Kaman is a mediocre defender. That team would get TORCHED by a fully loaded OKC team.

LOL THE NOTION OF KOBE BEING A BALL HOG IS RETARDED...HE LEADS THE LEAGUE IN ASSISTS FOR SHOOTING GUARDS, AND ONLY A DUMBASS CASUAL BASKETBALL HIGHLIGHT OBSERVER WHO DOESNT WATCH GAMES SUCH AS URSELF DOESN'T REALIZE HIS GREAT PASSING GAME.


KOBE + MELO >>>>> LEBRON + WADE ALL DAY.

I've already explained this to you. Kobe touches the ball on 99% of the teams possessions. The shooting guard role, for the most part is strictly to "shoot" the ball. Get the role? The only shooting guard who HAD (doesnt currently) that type of possession control at that position was Wade. Outside of a few playmakers here and there, but who don't touch the ball in the same UNIVERSE as Kobe, everyone else catches and shoots. Also Kobe made it a point to pass more after statistics PROVED Kobe taking over 20 shots a game led to more Laker losses than wins. Finally, he had two of the best 7 footers in the league, who attempt the highest percentage shot in the league within five feet of the rim (before you inevitably, out of anger, bring up LeBron to compare him passing to players who take the lowest percent shot in the game of basketball, despite the fact Bron is completely irrelevant in this point). Kobe is a ballhog at the end of the day whose trying desperately hard to prove he was a passer all these years because the repeating, defending champion now gets absolute praise for his ball-vision and IQ as a passer.

You're in denial. He single handedly made the best center in the league run away for dear life lol.


AND WHAT IS THAT "BEST CENTER" UNIVERSALLY KNOWN AS NOW? A COWARD...LOL. LIKE I SAID, ONLY A FRUIT LIKE U WOULD DEFEND HIS ANTICS. BUT THATS BESIDES THE POINT. KOBE GETTING 5+ ASSISTS AT THE SHOOTING GUARD POSITION THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER IS AMAZING...PLAYERS LIKE CARMELO, DURANT, ETC DOMINATE THE BALL JUST AS MUCH AS KOBE AND DONT GET NEARLY AS MANY ASSISTS....AND LMFAO@YOUR RETARDED EXPLANATION "HE GETS ASSISTS BECAUSE LEBRON IS PRAISED FOR HIS PASSING GAME AND HE WANTS TO PROVE HE CAN PASS TOO" :stupid: KOBE AVERAGED 6 ASSISTS PER GAME BEFORE LEBRON WAS EVEN IN THE LEAGUE.......ADMIT IT. U DONT REALLY FOLLOW BASKETBALL. JUST LEBRON.




Where am I defending his antics? I'm just defending reality that pound for pound, he's the best center in basketball. Only a jealous ex-girlfriend like you would cry this long about it.

And I already said Melo is a ballhog too. The different between Melo and Kobe is Kobe always had so much more to work with. If I was the Lakers PG, I could average four assists a game dumping the ball into two of the top five 7 footers in the game.

I'm not saying if Kobe tried he can't pass the basketball. Not on the IQ level as Bron, but yeah, I guess if he really said "alright, I'm the PG, he could average nine assists", but his points would take a hit.

But you so ignorant to ignore that outside of the two years he was LeBron in Cleveland status, for the past decade+ he's had HANDS DOWN, the best roster on paper in the entire league. LeBron took Birdman and made him look like a border line allstar, if a guy like Greg Oden signs and can play like 70% of what he was supposed to be coming out of college, his assists will go up. Kobe's always had a big man to feed the ball too and you have to figure he'll get his all-star big men 3-4 assists a game and the other 1-2 just casually during the course of a game.
 

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Re: LeBron and Melo to LA?
« Reply #80 on: July 23, 2013, 12:37:02 PM »
LMAO THIS FAGGOT JUST SAID KOBE IS NOT ON THE IQ LEVEL OF LEBRON...AND KOBE AVERAGES MORE ASSISTS THAN MELO CUZ HE HAS MORE TO WORK WITH? ROFLMAO. KOBE'S NEVER PLAYED WITH SHOOTERS LIKE LEBRON, WHO ARE ACTUALLY EASIER TO ASSIST THAN BIGS, WHO TYPICALLY CREATE FOR THEMSELVES...... LIKE I SAID, U DONT WATCH BASKETBALL. STOP IT.

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Re: LeBron and Melo to LA?
« Reply #81 on: July 23, 2013, 07:06:00 PM »
Considering you criticize Dwight for not being able to create for himself, that's a pretty contracting argument.

It's all percentages man. It's math. You can't fight it.
 

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Re: LeBron and Melo to LA?
« Reply #82 on: July 23, 2013, 07:32:01 PM »
Considering you criticize Dwight for not being able to create for himself, that's a pretty contracting argument.

It's all percentages man. It's math. You can't fight it.


LOL, AND HOW LONG HAS DWIGHT PLAYED WITH KOBE? NOT EVEN A YEAR.


IT AINT MATH...IT'S BASKETBALL KNOWLEDGE. WHICH U DONT HAVE. SHOOTERS ON UR TEAM=MORE ASSISTS. LEBRON HAS PLAYED WITH WAY MORE SHOOTERS ON HIS TEAMS THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER AND IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE. CATCH AND SHOOT SPECIALISTS GALORE.....KOBE IS A BETTER PASSER THAN LEBRON...LEBRON IS SIMPLY A MORE WILLING PASSER WITH BETTER OPTIONS TO PASS TO. IF KOBE DUMPS IT IN TO GASOL, HE'S NOT USUALLY GOING STRAIGHT UP. GASOL COMES WIT A SERIES OF MOVES, NEGATING POTENTIAL ASSISTS U'D GET FROM A CHRIS ANDERSON, JJ HICKSON TYPE. SAME WITH BYNUM, ODOM, AND ARTEST (OPTIONS 3,4,5 IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP YEARS). THEY ARE NOT THE IDEAL PLAYERS TO BE COLLECTING ASSISTS WITH, AND THATS WHAT KOBE'S BEEN PLAYIN WITH. LOL RASHARD LEWIS AND JAMES JONES WOULDA BEEN STARTERS ON ANY OF THE LAKER TEAMS IN THE POST-SHAQ ERA THE BEST SHOOTERS KOBE HAS PLAYED WITH IN THAT SPAN....IN MIAMI, THEYRE AFTERTHOUGHT BENCH WARMERS. GO FIGURE.

IT'S ACTUALLY QUITE SAD THAT LEBRON, A PASS-FIRST PLAYER, ONLY AVERAGES 1 MORE ASSIST THAN KOBE BRYANT ON A TEAM SO STACKED WHEN KOBE IS A SHOOT-FIRST PLAYER. BUT GO AHEAD AND SPIN IT FOR ANOTHER LEBRON JAMES JERK SESSION.

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Re: LeBron and Melo to LA?
« Reply #83 on: July 23, 2013, 09:39:07 PM »
I've never see someone in more denial who made up more things in one rant to defend his lover.
 

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Re: LeBron and Melo to LA?
« Reply #84 on: July 23, 2013, 10:01:34 PM »
Kobe played with Shaq...all you had to do was lob the ball in a 5 foot radius of the guy and he would catch it and dunk on the poor guy defending him
 

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Re: LeBron and Melo to LA?
« Reply #85 on: July 23, 2013, 10:07:36 PM »
I just don't understand how he doesn't understand that.

I mean, I do to a degree due to his homerism. But it's like sad because sometimes I feel like he's convinced himself his biased thoughts are beyond just clearly trying to hold it down for some childhood hero.
 

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Re: LeBron and Melo to LA?
« Reply #86 on: July 24, 2013, 01:59:12 AM »
Let's not act like Antwan Jamison and Jodie Meeks weren't bench warmers in the past Laker season.
 

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Re: LeBron and Melo to LA?
« Reply #87 on: July 24, 2013, 09:14:57 AM »
Kobe played with Shaq...all you had to do was lob the ball in a 5 foot radius of the guy and he would catch it and dunk on the poor guy defending him
No he wouldn't. Shaq was too slow and heavy to catch and dunk all the time. He'd usually catch the ball, dribble while knocking his man out of posisiton then do a layup/dunk. No assists for that.
 

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Re: LeBron and Melo to LA?
« Reply #88 on: July 24, 2013, 09:24:39 AM »
http://www.tmz.com/2013/07/24/carmelo-anthony-lakers-lebron-james/

Dear Los Angeles Lakers fans,

We're sorry to inform you ... it doesn't seem very likely Carmelo Anthony will be dishing to Kobe Bryant any time soon, despite reports to the contrary.

Anthony was leaving Craig's in Hollywood this week when we asked straight up if he could see himself in purple and gold after his contract with the Knicks runs out.

CA's response? "Ummmmm, I doubt it."

Carmelo teased us a little bit ... saying he owns purple and gold shoes -- but made it pretty clear he has no plans to wear them on the hardwood.

Anthony also told TMZ ... he's NOT secretly plotting with LeBron James to join the same NBA squad ... though he admits, they're pretty damn good when they play together.

Still, don't count out the Lakers entirely ... 'cause when the time comes, you can bet L.A. will bust out the checkbook -- and nothing changes a mind like a couple of zeros.

Stay tuned ...
 

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Re: LeBron and Melo to LA?
« Reply #89 on: July 24, 2013, 10:25:10 AM »
Lol @ the Melo pitch for Bron to go to NY.