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Quote from: NIKCC on July 22, 2013, 02:46:35 PMQuote from: Citizen-Y on July 22, 2013, 12:56:13 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on July 22, 2013, 12:46:24 PMDifference is, the Lakers have a ton of banners, a ton of retired jerseys and the stars in the stands. This is what players dream of, playing in front of stars, on a glamor team and under championship banners.Name the huge free agents not named Shaq that have come to LA. Ron Artest is about it.NASH, JUST RECENTLY, WHO WAS COMIN OFF A GREAT SEASON...... GASOL AND ODOM WERE RETAINED WHEN THEY COULDA WENT ELSEWHERE. THEY WERE FIRST PRIORITY, SO WE DIDNT GO AFTER ANYONE ELSE SINCE '08. SAME WITH THE THREEPEAT YEAR, WE RETAINED THE SAME TEAM FOR YEARS WITH A BELIEF THAT WE COULD CONTEND WITH THAT CORE UNTIL WE WENT OUT AND GOT PAYTON + MALONE, WHO CAME HERE FOR ALMOST NOTHING. IF U THINK LA IS NOT AN ATTRACTIVE DESTINATION, SLAP YASELF RIGHT NOW.They retained their bird rights, why the fuck wouldn't they stay?
Quote from: Citizen-Y on July 22, 2013, 12:56:13 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on July 22, 2013, 12:46:24 PMDifference is, the Lakers have a ton of banners, a ton of retired jerseys and the stars in the stands. This is what players dream of, playing in front of stars, on a glamor team and under championship banners.Name the huge free agents not named Shaq that have come to LA. Ron Artest is about it.NASH, JUST RECENTLY, WHO WAS COMIN OFF A GREAT SEASON...... GASOL AND ODOM WERE RETAINED WHEN THEY COULDA WENT ELSEWHERE. THEY WERE FIRST PRIORITY, SO WE DIDNT GO AFTER ANYONE ELSE SINCE '08. SAME WITH THE THREEPEAT YEAR, WE RETAINED THE SAME TEAM FOR YEARS WITH A BELIEF THAT WE COULD CONTEND WITH THAT CORE UNTIL WE WENT OUT AND GOT PAYTON + MALONE, WHO CAME HERE FOR ALMOST NOTHING. IF U THINK LA IS NOT AN ATTRACTIVE DESTINATION, SLAP YASELF RIGHT NOW.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on July 22, 2013, 12:46:24 PMDifference is, the Lakers have a ton of banners, a ton of retired jerseys and the stars in the stands. This is what players dream of, playing in front of stars, on a glamor team and under championship banners.Name the huge free agents not named Shaq that have come to LA. Ron Artest is about it.
Difference is, the Lakers have a ton of banners, a ton of retired jerseys and the stars in the stands. This is what players dream of, playing in front of stars, on a glamor team and under championship banners.
of course they'll get SOMEONEjust not someone GOOD like Lebron or Carmelo. no way would Lebron or Melo want to waste the primes of their careers with an old Kobe who still acts like he's the #1 option. who would?
Quote from: NIKCC on July 22, 2013, 02:39:50 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on July 22, 2013, 12:54:04 PMQuote from: Smart Wilson on July 19, 2013, 01:39:41 PMQuote from: NIKCC on July 19, 2013, 01:28:42 PMU STILL A KNICK FAN?Quote from: Russell Bell on July 19, 2013, 01:35:17 PMmore espn propagandasometimes when talking sports with NIK i feel as if i'm debating with Skip Bayless about Tim TebowIt's worse lol. Lol @ saying on paper Melo and Kobe would work. The two biggest ball hogs in basketball "no doubt would work". The best part is Nash can't play D, Kobe isn't an elite defender anymore, Melo doesn't play D, Pau is a pussy and Kaman is a mediocre defender. That team would get TORCHED by a fully loaded OKC team. LOL THE NOTION OF KOBE BEING A BALL HOG IS RETARDED...HE LEADS THE LEAGUE IN ASSISTS FOR SHOOTING GUARDS, AND ONLY A DUMBASS CASUAL BASKETBALL HIGHLIGHT OBSERVER WHO DOESNT WATCH GAMES SUCH AS URSELF DOESN'T REALIZE HIS GREAT PASSING GAME. KOBE + MELO >>>>> LEBRON + WADE ALL DAY. I've already explained this to you. Kobe touches the ball on 99% of the teams possessions. The shooting guard role, for the most part is strictly to "shoot" the ball. Get the role? The only shooting guard who HAD (doesnt currently) that type of possession control at that position was Wade. Outside of a few playmakers here and there, but who don't touch the ball in the same UNIVERSE as Kobe, everyone else catches and shoots. Also Kobe made it a point to pass more after statistics PROVED Kobe taking over 20 shots a game led to more Laker losses than wins. Finally, he had two of the best 7 footers in the league, who attempt the highest percentage shot in the league within five feet of the rim (before you inevitably, out of anger, bring up LeBron to compare him passing to players who take the lowest percent shot in the game of basketball, despite the fact Bron is completely irrelevant in this point). Kobe is a ballhog at the end of the day whose trying desperately hard to prove he was a passer all these years because the repeating, defending champion now gets absolute praise for his ball-vision and IQ as a passer.You're in denial. He single handedly made the best center in the league run away for dear life lol.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on July 22, 2013, 12:54:04 PMQuote from: Smart Wilson on July 19, 2013, 01:39:41 PMQuote from: NIKCC on July 19, 2013, 01:28:42 PMU STILL A KNICK FAN?Quote from: Russell Bell on July 19, 2013, 01:35:17 PMmore espn propagandasometimes when talking sports with NIK i feel as if i'm debating with Skip Bayless about Tim TebowIt's worse lol. Lol @ saying on paper Melo and Kobe would work. The two biggest ball hogs in basketball "no doubt would work". The best part is Nash can't play D, Kobe isn't an elite defender anymore, Melo doesn't play D, Pau is a pussy and Kaman is a mediocre defender. That team would get TORCHED by a fully loaded OKC team. LOL THE NOTION OF KOBE BEING A BALL HOG IS RETARDED...HE LEADS THE LEAGUE IN ASSISTS FOR SHOOTING GUARDS, AND ONLY A DUMBASS CASUAL BASKETBALL HIGHLIGHT OBSERVER WHO DOESNT WATCH GAMES SUCH AS URSELF DOESN'T REALIZE HIS GREAT PASSING GAME. KOBE + MELO >>>>> LEBRON + WADE ALL DAY.
Quote from: Smart Wilson on July 19, 2013, 01:39:41 PMQuote from: NIKCC on July 19, 2013, 01:28:42 PMU STILL A KNICK FAN?Quote from: Russell Bell on July 19, 2013, 01:35:17 PMmore espn propagandasometimes when talking sports with NIK i feel as if i'm debating with Skip Bayless about Tim TebowIt's worse lol. Lol @ saying on paper Melo and Kobe would work. The two biggest ball hogs in basketball "no doubt would work". The best part is Nash can't play D, Kobe isn't an elite defender anymore, Melo doesn't play D, Pau is a pussy and Kaman is a mediocre defender. That team would get TORCHED by a fully loaded OKC team.
Quote from: NIKCC on July 19, 2013, 01:28:42 PMU STILL A KNICK FAN?Quote from: Russell Bell on July 19, 2013, 01:35:17 PMmore espn propagandasometimes when talking sports with NIK i feel as if i'm debating with Skip Bayless about Tim Tebow
U STILL A KNICK FAN?
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Quote from: LooN3y on July 23, 2013, 01:49:57 AMQuote from: Citizen-Y on July 22, 2013, 11:26:30 AMPlayers coming into the league a few years ago wanted to be like Mike. Didn't see shitloads of players going to Chicago. Alot of players today idolized AI, where are all the 76ers free agents?lol you're comparing chicago and philly with LA,dont think of me being an LA boy thinking that LA is the best, because thats where im from. it literally does have the best weather in the world, if not among the best. and when people think of the US they think of LA and NYC, nobody gives a shit about philly, nobody gives a shit about chicago, maybe they're not destination cities, LA and NYC are THE major cities of the US, im not saying i wouldnt go to chicago, or philly i want to eat a chicago style deep dish pizza pie, an real philly cheese steak, because im AMERICAN, and i know of thesebut all the business, nationwide and international is in LA and NYC, you cant compare, like i've said before theres One Or 2 major cities in each country, LA and NYC is americas.im an LA boy, and id live in NYC, but phily? jersey city (actually anywhere in jersey) , houston? hell no.i need diversity, i need authentic ethnic foods of all sorts, chicago might be an exception, but miami is no to, its a great vacation city, not a city id live inits not hard to grasp this concept of why LA and NYC are easier to attract anyone more than philly or chicagoI keep hearing destination city, but Shaq was the only huge free agent you guys can hang your hat on. The reason Payton and Malone came was due to Shaq and Kobe. Talent will go where talent is.Have fun with the rebuild.
Quote from: Citizen-Y on July 22, 2013, 11:26:30 AMPlayers coming into the league a few years ago wanted to be like Mike. Didn't see shitloads of players going to Chicago. Alot of players today idolized AI, where are all the 76ers free agents?lol you're comparing chicago and philly with LA,dont think of me being an LA boy thinking that LA is the best, because thats where im from. it literally does have the best weather in the world, if not among the best. and when people think of the US they think of LA and NYC, nobody gives a shit about philly, nobody gives a shit about chicago, maybe they're not destination cities, LA and NYC are THE major cities of the US, im not saying i wouldnt go to chicago, or philly i want to eat a chicago style deep dish pizza pie, an real philly cheese steak, because im AMERICAN, and i know of thesebut all the business, nationwide and international is in LA and NYC, you cant compare, like i've said before theres One Or 2 major cities in each country, LA and NYC is americas.im an LA boy, and id live in NYC, but phily? jersey city (actually anywhere in jersey) , houston? hell no.i need diversity, i need authentic ethnic foods of all sorts, chicago might be an exception, but miami is no to, its a great vacation city, not a city id live inits not hard to grasp this concept of why LA and NYC are easier to attract anyone more than philly or chicago
Players coming into the league a few years ago wanted to be like Mike. Didn't see shitloads of players going to Chicago. Alot of players today idolized AI, where are all the 76ers free agents?
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on July 22, 2013, 03:33:09 PMQuote from: NIKCC on July 22, 2013, 02:39:50 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on July 22, 2013, 12:54:04 PMQuote from: Smart Wilson on July 19, 2013, 01:39:41 PMQuote from: NIKCC on July 19, 2013, 01:28:42 PMU STILL A KNICK FAN?Quote from: Russell Bell on July 19, 2013, 01:35:17 PMmore espn propagandasometimes when talking sports with NIK i feel as if i'm debating with Skip Bayless about Tim TebowIt's worse lol. Lol @ saying on paper Melo and Kobe would work. The two biggest ball hogs in basketball "no doubt would work". The best part is Nash can't play D, Kobe isn't an elite defender anymore, Melo doesn't play D, Pau is a pussy and Kaman is a mediocre defender. That team would get TORCHED by a fully loaded OKC team. LOL THE NOTION OF KOBE BEING A BALL HOG IS RETARDED...HE LEADS THE LEAGUE IN ASSISTS FOR SHOOTING GUARDS, AND ONLY A DUMBASS CASUAL BASKETBALL HIGHLIGHT OBSERVER WHO DOESNT WATCH GAMES SUCH AS URSELF DOESN'T REALIZE HIS GREAT PASSING GAME. KOBE + MELO >>>>> LEBRON + WADE ALL DAY. I've already explained this to you. Kobe touches the ball on 99% of the teams possessions. The shooting guard role, for the most part is strictly to "shoot" the ball. Get the role? The only shooting guard who HAD (doesnt currently) that type of possession control at that position was Wade. Outside of a few playmakers here and there, but who don't touch the ball in the same UNIVERSE as Kobe, everyone else catches and shoots. Also Kobe made it a point to pass more after statistics PROVED Kobe taking over 20 shots a game led to more Laker losses than wins. Finally, he had two of the best 7 footers in the league, who attempt the highest percentage shot in the league within five feet of the rim (before you inevitably, out of anger, bring up LeBron to compare him passing to players who take the lowest percent shot in the game of basketball, despite the fact Bron is completely irrelevant in this point). Kobe is a ballhog at the end of the day whose trying desperately hard to prove he was a passer all these years because the repeating, defending champion now gets absolute praise for his ball-vision and IQ as a passer.You're in denial. He single handedly made the best center in the league run away for dear life lol. AND WHAT IS THAT "BEST CENTER" UNIVERSALLY KNOWN AS NOW? A COWARD...LOL. LIKE I SAID, ONLY A FRUIT LIKE U WOULD DEFEND HIS ANTICS. BUT THATS BESIDES THE POINT. KOBE GETTING 5+ ASSISTS AT THE SHOOTING GUARD POSITION THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER IS AMAZING...PLAYERS LIKE CARMELO, DURANT, ETC DOMINATE THE BALL JUST AS MUCH AS KOBE AND DONT GET NEARLY AS MANY ASSISTS....AND LMFAO@YOUR RETARDED EXPLANATION "HE GETS ASSISTS BECAUSE LEBRON IS PRAISED FOR HIS PASSING GAME AND HE WANTS TO PROVE HE CAN PASS TOO" KOBE AVERAGED 6 ASSISTS PER GAME BEFORE LEBRON WAS EVEN IN THE LEAGUE.......ADMIT IT. U DONT REALLY FOLLOW BASKETBALL. JUST LEBRON.
Considering you criticize Dwight for not being able to create for himself, that's a pretty contracting argument. It's all percentages man. It's math. You can't fight it.
Kobe played with Shaq...all you had to do was lob the ball in a 5 foot radius of the guy and he would catch it and dunk on the poor guy defending him