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no matching him up with gucci is totally onpoint if u were at gangstaville you would understand more why. but in some ways thats not a bad comparison. gucci pays out his own pocket for almost everything as does daz. i respect that. hes also in the passed been prone to going off on one (more then weed) and airing out wild shit and making up stories like stabbing suge in the neck with a screwdriver etc. and fucking rappers wives on line. i think guccis a southern legend so its not like me comparing these as a knock it just seems like one because you prolly dont fuk with gucci, im saying at one point daz was the gucci mane of this shit....talking super wreckless while churning out a shit ton of hitt or miss projects while concentrating on holding down their region.
Quote from: Sir Petey on October 01, 2013, 01:02:00 AMno matching him up with gucci is totally onpoint if u were at gangstaville you would understand more why. but in some ways thats not a bad comparison. gucci pays out his own pocket for almost everything as does daz. i respect that. hes also in the passed been prone to going off on one (more then weed) and airing out wild shit and making up stories like stabbing suge in the neck with a screwdriver etc. and fucking rappers wives on line. i think guccis a southern legend so its not like me comparing these as a knock it just seems like one because you prolly dont fuk with gucci, im saying at one point daz was the gucci mane of this shit....talking super wreckless while churning out a shit ton of hitt or miss projects while concentrating on holding down their region.MAYBE PERSONALITY-WISE, BUT RESUME-WISE, IT'S REALLY NOT A GOOD COMPARISONDAZ HAS BEEN N INTEGRAL PART OF A GOOD PORTION OF THE QUALITY WEST COAST MUSIC IN THE 90S..DONT REALLY THINK I CAN SAY THE SAME FOR GUCCI
Quote from: NIKCC on October 01, 2013, 10:19:16 AMQuote from: Sir Petey on October 01, 2013, 01:02:00 AMno matching him up with gucci is totally onpoint if u were at gangstaville you would understand more why. but in some ways thats not a bad comparison. gucci pays out his own pocket for almost everything as does daz. i respect that. hes also in the passed been prone to going off on one (more then weed) and airing out wild shit and making up stories like stabbing suge in the neck with a screwdriver etc. and fucking rappers wives on line. i think guccis a southern legend so its not like me comparing these as a knock it just seems like one because you prolly dont fuk with gucci, im saying at one point daz was the gucci mane of this shit....talking super wreckless while churning out a shit ton of hitt or miss projects while concentrating on holding down their region.MAYBE PERSONALITY-WISE, BUT RESUME-WISE, IT'S REALLY NOT A GOOD COMPARISONDAZ HAS BEEN N INTEGRAL PART OF A GOOD PORTION OF THE QUALITY WEST COAST MUSIC IN THE 90S..DONT REALLY THINK I CAN SAY THE SAME FOR GUCCIdont be an uncle rico...you gotta move with the times and understand as sad as this sounds to kids just now getting there cherry popped gucci is closest thing they have to pac. this is another generations golden age of hip hop believe it or not. as sad as it is. why in the fuck would gucci be a part of the early 90s legacy dude was barely a teenager. has he been an integral part of the souths rise to prominance? hell yes.
Quote from: bouli77 on September 30, 2013, 11:58:20 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 30, 2013, 08:57:35 AMU LOST ME ON HIM BEING MORE OF A LEGEND THAN DAZDAZ HAS PUT OUT AND BEEN A MAJOR PART OF CLASSIC ALBUMS...SO HAS MIKE DEAN, BUT DAZ HAS BEEN WAY MORE IN THE FOREFRONT WIT IT. DAZ IS MORE OF A LEGEND BASED ON "DOGG FOOD" ALONE. you're talking in terms of visibility and reputation, i'm talking in terms of catalogue, longevity and actual productions. daz is a dope beatmaker (most of the time ghostproduced by soopafly or co produced by soopafly, ivan johnson, blaqthoven or mike dean), mike dean is a full fledged musician, engineer and producer and hence more versatile. i don't think we can rate daz higher just cause he produced dogg food, cause mike dean produced most of the Diary and the Untouchable (not to mention his involvement in shitloads of rap a lot albums which were greatly produced), and I love dogg food to death but i'd say the diary is more of a hip hop classic than dogg food even though dogg food is among my favorite albums. plus mike dean's prime has lasted longer than daz'sso, if we check the criterialongevity : mike dean > dazversatility : mike dean > daz catalogue : mike dean > daz (mike dean has a lot more dope shit)visibility : mike dean < dazreputation : mike dean < daz (that's mainly cause daz reaped a lot of credit he didn't fully deserve though, how many people know soopafly co-produced all his songs an all eyez on me and that dre ghostproduced songs like what would you do, respect and so many others ?)quality : mike dean = daz (i both love their music and i think both were craftsmen in classic, seminal records).overall, imo, mike dean > daz, this might not be a popular idea round here but i explained my reasonsclaims of ghost-production are retarded, cuz neither of us know who did what. daz could be a mini-dre for all we know..but i can tell u one thing for sure, daz played a major role in producing many classics. and on top of that, he not only produced "dogg food" but also rapped 50% of the album, which is a top 5 album in west coast rap history (and i'd rate it higher than "the diary", based on personal preference...both classics, tho)...that right there is more than enough to cement his legend. and thats without mentioning his solo career.there are a lot of full fledged musicians out there who are more musical than daz, but still aint comin close to bein a legend. bein a legend doesnt always have to do with how good or skilled u are.. mufuckaz out there leading entire orchestras and dont even have a record deal. mike dean is dope....but i dont think he's a legend. i think he's a great producer who produced great music. i think west coast rap would be a lot different without daz than dirty south rap would be without mike dean.
Quote from: NIKCC on September 30, 2013, 08:57:35 AMU LOST ME ON HIM BEING MORE OF A LEGEND THAN DAZDAZ HAS PUT OUT AND BEEN A MAJOR PART OF CLASSIC ALBUMS...SO HAS MIKE DEAN, BUT DAZ HAS BEEN WAY MORE IN THE FOREFRONT WIT IT. DAZ IS MORE OF A LEGEND BASED ON "DOGG FOOD" ALONE. you're talking in terms of visibility and reputation, i'm talking in terms of catalogue, longevity and actual productions. daz is a dope beatmaker (most of the time ghostproduced by soopafly or co produced by soopafly, ivan johnson, blaqthoven or mike dean), mike dean is a full fledged musician, engineer and producer and hence more versatile. i don't think we can rate daz higher just cause he produced dogg food, cause mike dean produced most of the Diary and the Untouchable (not to mention his involvement in shitloads of rap a lot albums which were greatly produced), and I love dogg food to death but i'd say the diary is more of a hip hop classic than dogg food even though dogg food is among my favorite albums. plus mike dean's prime has lasted longer than daz'sso, if we check the criterialongevity : mike dean > dazversatility : mike dean > daz catalogue : mike dean > daz (mike dean has a lot more dope shit)visibility : mike dean < dazreputation : mike dean < daz (that's mainly cause daz reaped a lot of credit he didn't fully deserve though, how many people know soopafly co-produced all his songs an all eyez on me and that dre ghostproduced songs like what would you do, respect and so many others ?)quality : mike dean = daz (i both love their music and i think both were craftsmen in classic, seminal records).overall, imo, mike dean > daz, this might not be a popular idea round here but i explained my reasons
U LOST ME ON HIM BEING MORE OF A LEGEND THAN DAZDAZ HAS PUT OUT AND BEEN A MAJOR PART OF CLASSIC ALBUMS...SO HAS MIKE DEAN, BUT DAZ HAS BEEN WAY MORE IN THE FOREFRONT WIT IT. DAZ IS MORE OF A LEGEND BASED ON "DOGG FOOD" ALONE.
you mofos are crazy daz might have had a couple of seconds of fame but daz would trade in his doggystyle records charm for even a tenth of deans capabilities.dean knows that studio from every angle from the engineering to the crafting of the beat to the mixing and mastering daz can hardly run a drum machine, daz cant even hook up the very equipment he uses lol. he knows shit about mixing and levels etc and these are all things hes admitted he pulled off a few slick records during the 90s because he had the dr staff to tighten it up but nothing daz does solo now has that signature sound which liets you know the sound you all love and jock isnt even daz'syall wc heads be goin way over the top with your admiration for daz. hes litterally one of the luckiest ppl in the game. snoop left deathrow with out a dollar to his name and had to start from scratch with master p. daz said fuck dignity and loyalty lol im gonna ride this deathrow thing out for a while and see where it takes me. from what ive heard hes burnt most of the bridges hes crossed fromdre to suge and dean to jt the bigga figga hes the wc gucci mane.nothing hes done post dillenger and gotty is worth a fuck and you know thats real talk.
whatever he did, whether u say he stole them beats or not, it stili goes on his resume n thats all we can really judge him on...u cant tell me how 2 win
Quote from: NIKCC on October 01, 2013, 09:38:15 PMwhatever he did, whether u say he stole them beats or not, it stili goes on his resume n thats all we can really judge him on...u cant tell me how 2 winwhat is dazs signature sound...an amalgamation of what warren g and quik and dre was doing?
Quote from: Sir Petey on October 01, 2013, 11:04:18 PMQuote from: NIKCC on October 01, 2013, 09:38:15 PMwhatever he did, whether u say he stole them beats or not, it stili goes on his resume n thats all we can really judge him on...u cant tell me how 2 winwhat is dazs signature sound...an amalgamation of what warren g and quik and dre was doing?exactly...a more gangsta version of that.if u wanna know what signature daz sound is witout the co-production, check beats like "fresh" and "cwalk" by kurupt. simple, but effective.....cuts like "the ultimate come-up", thats signature daz. when i heard "my life" by TI, i could tell it was daz right off the bat....u gotta give credit where it's due mayn
Quote from: NIKCC on October 02, 2013, 08:42:36 AMQuote from: Sir Petey on October 01, 2013, 11:04:18 PMQuote from: NIKCC on October 01, 2013, 09:38:15 PMwhatever he did, whether u say he stole them beats or not, it stili goes on his resume n thats all we can really judge him on...u cant tell me how 2 winwhat is dazs signature sound...an amalgamation of what warren g and quik and dre was doing?exactly...a more gangsta version of that.if u wanna know what signature daz sound is witout the co-production, check beats like "fresh" and "cwalk" by kurupt. simple, but effective.....cuts like "the ultimate come-up", thats signature daz. when i heard "my life" by TI, i could tell it was daz right off the bat....u gotta give credit where it's due maynmy life id wager was more shorty b then daz....id put my last blunt on that as well as c walk being a soopafly production.when its daz by himself it just dont sound like anything worth remembering. i feel shitty about it too....as a young buck i idolized his beats the first time i ever got studio access i was trying to lay down dazish beats with the moog synth and shit but as i got older i realized that sound was really more like the sound of the studio daz was working out of and the session players he had access too.we both know his shit will NEVER in a million years sound as dynamic as it used to....unless you get barbey rubble and butch smalls n them in there its gonna be poop. everytime.
Quote from: Sir Petey on October 02, 2013, 09:59:04 AMQuote from: NIKCC on October 02, 2013, 08:42:36 AMQuote from: Sir Petey on October 01, 2013, 11:04:18 PMQuote from: NIKCC on October 01, 2013, 09:38:15 PMwhatever he did, whether u say he stole them beats or not, it stili goes on his resume n thats all we can really judge him on...u cant tell me how 2 winwhat is dazs signature sound...an amalgamation of what warren g and quik and dre was doing?exactly...a more gangsta version of that.if u wanna know what signature daz sound is witout the co-production, check beats like "fresh" and "cwalk" by kurupt. simple, but effective.....cuts like "the ultimate come-up", thats signature daz. when i heard "my life" by TI, i could tell it was daz right off the bat....u gotta give credit where it's due maynmy life id wager was more shorty b then daz....id put my last blunt on that as well as c walk being a soopafly production.when its daz by himself it just dont sound like anything worth remembering. i feel shitty about it too....as a young buck i idolized his beats the first time i ever got studio access i was trying to lay down dazish beats with the moog synth and shit but as i got older i realized that sound was really more like the sound of the studio daz was working out of and the session players he had access too.we both know his shit will NEVER in a million years sound as dynamic as it used to....unless you get barbey rubble and butch smalls n them in there its gonna be poop. everytime.it'll never sound the same cuz he dont got that death row budget....million dollar equipment wit musicians out the ass on payroll..