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Re: Doc Rivers: "Lakers are the best franchise in the history of sports"
« Reply #75 on: October 03, 2013, 09:30:16 AM »
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Re: Doc Rivers: "Lakers are the best franchise in the history of sports"
« Reply #76 on: October 03, 2013, 09:43:29 AM »

lol yes they are..i personally knew of james worthy way before any player on ur yankee list not named babe ruth. seriously, how many rappers have rapped the name james worthy? it's gotta be more than any yankee player.

but the point is, the names magic johnson, shaq and kobe bryant are easily globally as recognized as any yankee player EVER and then some...i bet the lakers also sell more merchandise than the yankees globally. lakers are simply a bigger brand, synonymous with coca-cola and mcdonalds..with merchandide and marketting, no one's touching the lakeshow..a straight empire. in about 20 years, a lot of kids probably wont even know who joe dimaggio was...baseball is seriously phasing out and is slowly becoming nothing more than a past-time, while basketball is rapidly growing internationally. it wont be long before the entire world officially recognizes the lakers as the GOAT sports franchise.

So because Rappers mention James Worthy, he's the Roger Maris of Basketball? Remember, Roger Maris owned the Home Run Record until McGwire and Sosa destroyed it. James Worthy does not have that lore in his Sport.

Remember, the Yankees have had the YES Network since 02. The Lakers just got their Network, there's a reason for that.

Finding info on Merchandise sales is tough but I've found these links:

http://www.forbes.com/teams/new-york-yankees/

http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=980&Itemid=42

http://www.forbes.com/nba-valuations/list/
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Re: Doc Rivers: "Lakers are the best franchise in the history of sports"
« Reply #77 on: October 03, 2013, 10:32:21 AM »
You still don't get it though. I'm not comparing Joe DiMaggio's 56 Game Hitting Streak to Magic's career APG still being the highest in the league. That's exactly what I'm NOT doing.

What am I saying is: The amount of Legendary/Iconic Players on the Yankees > Lakers

They are all equally as important to their sport, but we're talking about some of these Yankee legends came before TV was showing Baseball, or just plain before a majority of people had TV.

We can't compare a "Global Impact" like Jersey sales. Of course Kobe is selling more jerseys than Babe Ruth. How are you even asking that? Kobe has played on TV his entire career, Babe Ruth was just a name on the Radio and a picture in the Paper. Is that what we've come to?

My entire point of listing players was to show the sheer amount of top notch players that graced a Yankee uniform for longer than a season or 2. Look at the Yankees list, it never falls off. The Laker list with names like Worthy and Goodrich doesn't stand as tall. 2 great players, sure, but they're not Mariano Rivera or Reggie Jackson in their sport. Hell, I don't think they're even Munson or Maris of their sport.

lol yes they are..i personally knew of james worthy way before any player on ur yankee list not named babe ruth. seriously, how many rappers have rapped the name james worthy? it's gotta be more than any yankee player.

but the point is, the names magic johnson, shaq and kobe bryant are easily globally as recognized as any yankee player EVER and then some...i bet the lakers also sell more merchandise than the yankees globally. lakers are simply a bigger brand, synonymous with coca-cola and mcdonalds..with merchandide and marketting, no one's touching the lakeshow..a straight empire. in about 20 years, a lot of kids probably wont even know who joe dimaggio was...baseball is seriously phasing out and is slowly becoming nothing more than a past-time, while basketball is rapidly growing internationally. it wont be long before the entire world officially recognizes the lakers as the GOAT sports franchise.

Man, Not according to Forbes. Forbes has the Yankees as #3 and the Lakers at #48 on value. Knicks are #1 selling merch of basketball teams, Yankees are #1 in baseball and #3 globally. So merch sales is a very BAD way to judge GOAT franchises.


u tellin me yankees sell more merchandise world-wide than lakers? thats hard for me to believe..u got a source on that?

Yes. And I said Forbes. But please don't have me post the proof. Because it's really, really bad for the Lakers. Let's just say the list is heavy NFL, the Yankees are the top American team, soccer is of course the dominate sport and basketball doesn't see the list until really low, and the Lakers ARE NOT the top merch seller in basketball.
 

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Re: Doc Rivers: "Lakers are the best franchise in the history of sports"
« Reply #78 on: October 03, 2013, 12:19:19 PM »
You still don't get it though. I'm not comparing Joe DiMaggio's 56 Game Hitting Streak to Magic's career APG still being the highest in the league. That's exactly what I'm NOT doing.

What am I saying is: The amount of Legendary/Iconic Players on the Yankees > Lakers

They are all equally as important to their sport, but we're talking about some of these Yankee legends came before TV was showing Baseball, or just plain before a majority of people had TV.

We can't compare a "Global Impact" like Jersey sales. Of course Kobe is selling more jerseys than Babe Ruth. How are you even asking that? Kobe has played on TV his entire career, Babe Ruth was just a name on the Radio and a picture in the Paper. Is that what we've come to?

My entire point of listing players was to show the sheer amount of top notch players that graced a Yankee uniform for longer than a season or 2. Look at the Yankees list, it never falls off. The Laker list with names like Worthy and Goodrich doesn't stand as tall. 2 great players, sure, but they're not Mariano Rivera or Reggie Jackson in their sport. Hell, I don't think they're even Munson or Maris of their sport.

lol yes they are..i personally knew of james worthy way before any player on ur yankee list not named babe ruth. seriously, how many rappers have rapped the name james worthy? it's gotta be more than any yankee player.

but the point is, the names magic johnson, shaq and kobe bryant are easily globally as recognized as any yankee player EVER and then some...i bet the lakers also sell more merchandise than the yankees globally. lakers are simply a bigger brand, synonymous with coca-cola and mcdonalds..with merchandide and marketting, no one's touching the lakeshow..a straight empire. in about 20 years, a lot of kids probably wont even know who joe dimaggio was...baseball is seriously phasing out and is slowly becoming nothing more than a past-time, while basketball is rapidly growing internationally. it wont be long before the entire world officially recognizes the lakers as the GOAT sports franchise.

Man, Not according to Forbes. Forbes has the Yankees as #3 and the Lakers at #48 on value. Knicks are #1 selling merch of basketball teams, Yankees are #1 in baseball and #3 globally. So merch sales is a very BAD way to judge GOAT franchises.


u tellin me yankees sell more merchandise world-wide than lakers? thats hard for me to believe..u got a source on that?

Yes. And I said Forbes. But please don't have me post the proof. Because it's really, really bad for the Lakers. Let's just say the list is heavy NFL, the Yankees are the top American team, soccer is of course the dominate sport and basketball doesn't see the list until really low, and the Lakers ARE NOT the top merch seller in basketball.

lol quit actin like u aint in on this to shit on the lakers..."please dont have me post the list, because it'll show that the lakers do really, really bad........oh wait" lmmfao


foreal, tho, laker brand is still the strongest in the nba...we didnt sell the most jerseys last year cuz every1 already has their laker jerseys. but thats only in america. i can guarantee lakers sell the most merchandise world-wide.

i guess yankees get more love overseas than i thought.. but it's funny- i guess being in LA, i never see any yankee gear anywhere...i mean, u even see dallas cowboy gear, miami heat gear, even celtic gear....but rarely will u catch some1 repping yankees out here.

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Re: Doc Rivers: "Lakers are the best franchise in the history of sports"
« Reply #79 on: October 03, 2013, 12:26:16 PM »
u tellin me yankees sell more merchandise world-wide than lakers? thats hard for me to believe..u got a source on that?

In 2012 and 2013 the Yankees had Ichiro Suzuki and Hiroki Kuroda on their team. There's an easy profit from the Japanese market and a few million units of merchandise sold right there.
Plus the Yankees had the pride of Panama (Rivera) and the Dominican Republic (Cano). The Yankees have got foreign countries buying their shit and supporting their countrymen who are representing their countries and competing against the best of the very best.

Meanwhile how many non US countries can claim that their countrymen are playing for the Lakers and buy Lakers merch to support them?
 

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Re: Doc Rivers: "Lakers are the best franchise in the history of sports"
« Reply #80 on: October 03, 2013, 12:44:23 PM »
u tellin me yankees sell more merchandise world-wide than lakers? thats hard for me to believe..u got a source on that?

In 2012 and 2013 the Yankees had Ichiro Suzuki and Hiroki Kuroda on their team. There's an easy profit from the Japanese market and a few million units of merchandise sold right there.
Plus the Yankees had the pride of Panama (Rivera) and the Dominican Republic (Cano). The Yankees have got foreign countries buying their shit and supporting their countrymen who are representing their countries and competing against the best of the very best.

Meanwhile how many non US countries can claim that their countrymen are playing for the Lakers and buy Lakers merch to support them?

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Re: Doc Rivers: "Lakers are the best franchise in the history of sports"
« Reply #81 on: October 03, 2013, 12:45:58 PM »
You still don't get it though. I'm not comparing Joe DiMaggio's 56 Game Hitting Streak to Magic's career APG still being the highest in the league. That's exactly what I'm NOT doing.

What am I saying is: The amount of Legendary/Iconic Players on the Yankees > Lakers

They are all equally as important to their sport, but we're talking about some of these Yankee legends came before TV was showing Baseball, or just plain before a majority of people had TV.

We can't compare a "Global Impact" like Jersey sales. Of course Kobe is selling more jerseys than Babe Ruth. How are you even asking that? Kobe has played on TV his entire career, Babe Ruth was just a name on the Radio and a picture in the Paper. Is that what we've come to?

My entire point of listing players was to show the sheer amount of top notch players that graced a Yankee uniform for longer than a season or 2. Look at the Yankees list, it never falls off. The Laker list with names like Worthy and Goodrich doesn't stand as tall. 2 great players, sure, but they're not Mariano Rivera or Reggie Jackson in their sport. Hell, I don't think they're even Munson or Maris of their sport.

lol yes they are..i personally knew of james worthy way before any player on ur yankee list not named babe ruth. seriously, how many rappers have rapped the name james worthy? it's gotta be more than any yankee player.

but the point is, the names magic johnson, shaq and kobe bryant are easily globally as recognized as any yankee player EVER and then some...i bet the lakers also sell more merchandise than the yankees globally. lakers are simply a bigger brand, synonymous with coca-cola and mcdonalds..with merchandide and marketting, no one's touching the lakeshow..a straight empire. in about 20 years, a lot of kids probably wont even know who joe dimaggio was...baseball is seriously phasing out and is slowly becoming nothing more than a past-time, while basketball is rapidly growing internationally. it wont be long before the entire world officially recognizes the lakers as the GOAT sports franchise.

Man, Not according to Forbes. Forbes has the Yankees as #3 and the Lakers at #48 on value. Knicks are #1 selling merch of basketball teams, Yankees are #1 in baseball and #3 globally. So merch sales is a very BAD way to judge GOAT franchises.


u tellin me yankees sell more merchandise world-wide than lakers? thats hard for me to believe..u got a source on that?

Yes. And I said Forbes. But please don't have me post the proof. Because it's really, really bad for the Lakers. Let's just say the list is heavy NFL, the Yankees are the top American team, soccer is of course the dominate sport and basketball doesn't see the list until really low, and the Lakers ARE NOT the top merch seller in basketball.

lol quit actin like u aint in on this to shit on the lakers..."please dont have me post the list, because it'll show that the lakers do really, really bad........oh wait" lmmfao


foreal, tho, laker brand is still the strongest in the nba...we didnt sell the most jerseys last year cuz every1 already has their laker jerseys. but thats only in america. i can guarantee lakers sell the most merchandise world-wide.

i guess yankees get more love overseas than i thought.. but it's funny- i guess being in LA, i never see any yankee gear anywhere...i mean, u even see dallas cowboy gear, miami heat gear, even celtic gear....but rarely will u catch some1 repping yankees out here.
the knicks are the top team in the nba slangin merchandise nikky give it up
 

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Re: Doc Rivers: "Lakers are the best franchise in the history of sports"
« Reply #82 on: October 03, 2013, 04:38:11 PM »
NIK, did you really just say Bryant was better than Jordan at age 34?  smh
 

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Re: Doc Rivers: "Lakers are the best franchise in the history of sports"
« Reply #83 on: October 03, 2013, 04:57:51 PM »
NIK, did you really just say Bryant was better than Jordan at age 34?  smh
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Yea and not just by a little.. U even watch Kobe last year?
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Re: Doc Rivers: "Lakers are the best franchise in the history of sports"
« Reply #84 on: October 03, 2013, 05:02:53 PM »

i guess yankees get more love overseas than i thought.. but it's funny- i guess being in LA, i never see any yankee gear anywhere...i mean, u even see dallas cowboy gear, miami heat gear, even celtic gear....but rarely will u catch some1 repping yankees out here.

Remember that Baseball is huge in Latin America, also.

I am constantly seeing people with Yankee hats, shirts, stickers etc. as I drive around. You have to remember that L.A. is not the Sports town that NY, Chicago, Boston or Philly is. We have a lot of transplants out here and they bring their fandom with them. We also just have a ton of people who follow what is popular. But, on a regular basis, in any Southern California (San Diego excluded) town the merchandise you will see: Dodgers, Lakers, Raiders, Cowboys, USC & UCLA in that order. In the O.C. and cities surrounding, you'll see Angels gear. When the Playoffs come around, you start seeing the Kings jerseys. And over the last few years, Clippers jerseys.
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Re: Doc Rivers: "Lakers are the best franchise in the history of sports"
« Reply #85 on: October 03, 2013, 05:03:12 PM »
did Kobe drop 28 ppg and win an NBA title like MJ did at age 34?


no, he got injured like most old guys do.
 

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Re: Doc Rivers: "Lakers are the best franchise in the history of sports"
« Reply #86 on: October 03, 2013, 05:14:28 PM »
did Kobe drop 28 ppg and win an NBA title like MJ did at age 34?


no, he got injured like most old guys do.


Kobe did more, carried a heavier load, didnt have the luxury of playin on a 50 win team without him like mj did.... Admit it, u don't know what the fuck u talkin bout, u just hate Kobe

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Re: Doc Rivers: "Lakers are the best franchise in the history of sports"
« Reply #87 on: October 03, 2013, 05:16:40 PM »
LMAO  so Jordan carrying a team to the NBA finals isn't a heavy load?  jesus man  you need to take your own advice and admit you hate MJ :D
 

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Re: Doc Rivers: "Lakers are the best franchise in the history of sports"
« Reply #88 on: October 03, 2013, 05:21:04 PM »

i guess yankees get more love overseas than i thought.. but it's funny- i guess being in LA, i never see any yankee gear anywhere...i mean, u even see dallas cowboy gear, miami heat gear, even celtic gear....but rarely will u catch some1 repping yankees out here.

Remember that Baseball is huge in Latin America, also.

I am constantly seeing people with Yankee hats, shirts, stickers etc. as I drive around. You have to remember that L.A. is not the Sports town that NY, Chicago, Boston or Philly is. We have a lot of transplants out here and they bring their fandom with them. We also just have a ton of people who follow what is popular. But, on a regular basis, in any Southern California (San Diego excluded) town the merchandise you will see: Dodgers, Lakers, Raiders, Cowboys, USC & UCLA in that order. In the O.C. and cities surrounding, you'll see Angels gear. When the Playoffs come around, you start seeing the Kings jerseys. And over the last few years, Clippers jerseys.



I'll tell u this about the lakeshow, we have more fans in other cities than any other teams n it's not even close

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Re: Doc Rivers: "Lakers are the best franchise in the history of sports"
« Reply #89 on: October 03, 2013, 06:07:05 PM »
Yankees have more fans worldwide by far


Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig showed the japs how to play baseball in 1934.  18 game exhibition and Ruth hit 13 homers. 

Afterwards he said funny stuff like "the baseball at is as big as the japs" and "the fans didn't know the rules so they cheered for good and bad plays"

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