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the radio DJ says he bought a bootleg with Gin and Juice, Every single day and Niggaz don't give a fuck on it. probably the OG niggaz don't give a fuck too.
But it was probably more about them just dicking around in the studio and taking all sorts of time to record a song and thinking that's how everyone else worked too. It's inspiring and motivating when you meet someone else who does the same thing that you do but at a far faster and more efficient pace. The bar gets raised, and it makes other people want to reach it too.But at the same time, the period you referred to as being their best material was also when they were hungry rappers trying to make it and prove themselves.
I've always felt the Pac influence was on work ethic and not just how to make a lot of tracks quickly. I believe one of them, pretty sure, it was Kurupt, said he would come with whatever verses, even if they didn't fit the sound, and Pac was telling him to be more versatile.
Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on March 04, 2014, 09:55:40 AMBut it was probably more about them just dicking around in the studio and taking all sorts of time to record a song and thinking that's how everyone else worked too. It's inspiring and motivating when you meet someone else who does the same thing that you do but at a far faster and more efficient pace. The bar gets raised, and it makes other people want to reach it too.But at the same time, the period you referred to as being their best material was also when they were hungry rappers trying to make it and prove themselves.You make a fair point but look at Dr. Dre. Even in spite of all the money he has made he has still maintained a standard of quality over quantity. He's been making money since the NWA days and he has still managed to put out quality and never put out throwaway verses.
Quote from: Jimmy H. on March 04, 2014, 10:40:10 AMI've always felt the Pac influence was on work ethic and not just how to make a lot of tracks quickly. I believe one of them, pretty sure, it was Kurupt, said he would come with whatever verses, even if they didn't fit the sound, and Pac was telling him to be more versatile. Okay that's great.. but then why does everything Kurupt spit on Dogg Food sound fire, and everything Kurupt spit on Kuruption sound lazy, rushed, and unfocused?
^ cute theory but no. Judging on how unsuccessful he's been as a CEO / president and how much he's fallen off lyrically - it's clear drugs played a huge role on the demise of Kurupt the Kingpin.
Quote from: GangstaBoogy on March 04, 2014, 01:55:45 PM^ cute theory but no. Judging on how unsuccessful he's been as a CEO / president and how much he's fallen off lyrically - it's clear drugs played a huge role on the demise of Kurupt the Kingpin. ...which means that the decline in his quality wasn't attributed to the whole work ethic aspect of pumping out songs back-to-back
All of the greatest Snoop/Dogg Pound material is from before Pac, in the days when they were supposedly "lazy" and didn't know how to "work".
Quote from: Infinite on March 04, 2014, 07:41:03 AM All of the greatest Snoop/Dogg Pound material is from before Pac, in the days when they were supposedly "lazy" and didn't know how to "work". Dre also made Snoop retake songs again and again and again till he was happy with the product or it matched the vision in his mind. Artists of a certain calibre, that have something valid to say in the first place and not just bumping their gums, can one take or drop multiple tracks on the same day. The rest of the regular folk need to get back in the lab and take their time to craft something.
Quote from: eyeball on March 05, 2014, 01:24:12 AMQuote from: Infinite on March 04, 2014, 07:41:03 AM All of the greatest Snoop/Dogg Pound material is from before Pac, in the days when they were supposedly "lazy" and didn't know how to "work". Dre also made Snoop retake songs again and again and again till he was happy with the product or it matched the vision in his mind. Artists of a certain calibre, that have something valid to say in the first place and not just bumping their gums, can one take or drop multiple tracks on the same day. The rest of the regular folk need to get back in the lab and take their time to craft something.Some producers will fit the sound to an established artist. Others will mould an artist to fit their vision of the record like you say. That neednt mean the artist is doing something wrong. I'm talking about producers in the old sense, not beatmakers
Quote from: Do Buy Albums on March 05, 2014, 02:35:40 AMQuote from: eyeball on March 05, 2014, 01:24:12 AMQuote from: Infinite on March 04, 2014, 07:41:03 AM All of the greatest Snoop/Dogg Pound material is from before Pac, in the days when they were supposedly "lazy" and didn't know how to "work". Dre also made Snoop retake songs again and again and again till he was happy with the product or it matched the vision in his mind. Artists of a certain calibre, that have something valid to say in the first place and not just bumping their gums, can one take or drop multiple tracks on the same day. The rest of the regular folk need to get back in the lab and take their time to craft something.Some producers will fit the sound to an established artist. Others will mould an artist to fit their vision of the record like you say. That neednt mean the artist is doing something wrong. I'm talking about producers in the old sense, not beatmakersSnoop (like Dre before him) is the type of artist that needs a "boss" in order to keep him focussed and on track. Pac on the other had was more self motivated.Different strokes for different folks... As long as the end product knocks who cares.