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Quote from: M Dogg™ on June 12, 2015, 11:52:08 AMQuote from: Sccit on June 12, 2015, 10:58:44 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on June 12, 2015, 09:04:17 AMYou started this thread by stating that LeBron's return to Cleveland fucked them over worse than him leaving, because it forced Cleveland to trade Wiggins to try and win now. Basically, you said that LeBron should have stayed in Miami and then the Cavs should build around Wiggins, and that would be best. At least that's how everyone took it. If you meant something different, then you need to be more specific. if Cleveland doesn't win a title, then yes, it's guna look horrible in the big picture I don't know man. This is the closest Cleveland has ever gone in winning anything for the last 50 years. I think this was the best move they can make to guarantee winning. If LeBron never came back, and they built around Wiggins, you will have fans just waiting for the Decision 2. but if they don't win, it was all for nothing .... and they traded away the future of the NBA for that. they better win, that's all I'm sayin.
Quote from: Sccit on June 12, 2015, 10:58:44 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on June 12, 2015, 09:04:17 AMYou started this thread by stating that LeBron's return to Cleveland fucked them over worse than him leaving, because it forced Cleveland to trade Wiggins to try and win now. Basically, you said that LeBron should have stayed in Miami and then the Cavs should build around Wiggins, and that would be best. At least that's how everyone took it. If you meant something different, then you need to be more specific. if Cleveland doesn't win a title, then yes, it's guna look horrible in the big picture I don't know man. This is the closest Cleveland has ever gone in winning anything for the last 50 years. I think this was the best move they can make to guarantee winning. If LeBron never came back, and they built around Wiggins, you will have fans just waiting for the Decision 2.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on June 12, 2015, 09:04:17 AMYou started this thread by stating that LeBron's return to Cleveland fucked them over worse than him leaving, because it forced Cleveland to trade Wiggins to try and win now. Basically, you said that LeBron should have stayed in Miami and then the Cavs should build around Wiggins, and that would be best. At least that's how everyone took it. If you meant something different, then you need to be more specific. if Cleveland doesn't win a title, then yes, it's guna look horrible in the big picture
You started this thread by stating that LeBron's return to Cleveland fucked them over worse than him leaving, because it forced Cleveland to trade Wiggins to try and win now. Basically, you said that LeBron should have stayed in Miami and then the Cavs should build around Wiggins, and that would be best. At least that's how everyone took it. If you meant something different, then you need to be more specific.
hack stay actin like cham's bottom lmao...stop it bro.the injury is actually the reason were able to see what a bad trade it is..because cleveland has proven that they dont even need love, and have been playing great wit tristan thompson filling his role. so imagine having wiggins defending the perimeter on top of that. and to think, lebron will be out of the league when wiggins is hitting his prime. guna be historically bad once it pans out.
& Wiggins can't shoot (yet anyway). Defensively, it would be astronomical, but LeBron likes when he can space the floor. Tristian & Mozgov look like sure fire starters for next year, but they look extra special because the Warriors are so small. For this particular matchup Tristian & Mozgov >>> Love & Tristian/Mozgov, but hypothetically next year if they play the Thunder again or even the Pacers in the East, if they get back to form again, it would be better to have Love in there, pulling Ibaka & David West out of the paint, spacing the floor.Fully healthy next year, the Cavs are more dangerous against 80-85% of teams in the league with Love in the lineup than Wiggins unless he dramatically turns into a superstar over the offseason.
No one will disagree that the trade will end up being horrible if Cleveland never wins with Love being a key factor.
Quote from: Shallow on June 13, 2015, 05:14:00 AMNo one will disagree that the trade will end up being horrible if Cleveland never wins with Love being a key factor. Wiggins could get hit by a meteor tomorrow & die
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on June 14, 2015, 09:20:04 PMQuote from: Shallow on June 13, 2015, 05:14:00 AMNo one will disagree that the trade will end up being horrible if Cleveland never wins with Love being a key factor. Wiggins could get hit by a meteor tomorrow & dielmfao is this seriously your best argument? u know u trying wayyyyy too hard when u gota pull that 1 out.
Or Wiggins can get injured. You don't know. He also wasn't the most skilled player coming in, he developed over the year because he's forced to lead Minnesota instead of learn. So had he been in Cleveland with LeBron, that might have stunted his growth. A thin argument, but it's one that MIGHT be relevant.
if they win next year trade worked out