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bg-funkhavent heard it yet, but it seems overdone to me based on what im gathering...guna cop it when it hits shelves and drop an honest opinion. outside of this forum, it's bein received to much harsher criticism than GKMC.also, @mdogg "masterpiece" and "classic" are pretty much interchangeable terms.
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/album-reviews/id.2443/title.kendrick-lamar-to-pimp-a-butterfly
Quote from: Black Excellence on March 16, 2015, 05:20:27 PMQuote from: CORREA on March 16, 2015, 05:17:24 PMQuote from: Black Excellence on March 16, 2015, 05:10:52 PMQuote from: CORREA on March 16, 2015, 05:09:42 PMQuote from: Black Excellence on March 16, 2015, 05:02:41 PMQuote from: CORREA on March 16, 2015, 04:32:46 PMQuote from: Black Excellence on March 16, 2015, 04:14:53 PMthe album is great for those who suffer from insomnia.dont get mad cause ti cant do other then the typical generic garbage thats already out there no I'm mad cause this nigga has dr. dre at his disposal and his beats is delicate as fuck.fuck dre he never needed him LOL he need to leave soundwave and them other niggas alone.soundwave and ali and others are responsible for building tde with their production them beats is wack. they fucked up the album wit them delicate beats. QuoteDelicate? Beats?So that's what makes me now?Man, I don't give a fuck about no beatOkay, I have gave this album two spins. No doubt it's a good album. I can get to different levels of this, so I will...If you listen to Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City, and you listen to it from beginning to end, then this album only makes more sense. As a concept album, this album follows Kendrick after he left the streets and became King Kendrick. The album title is To Pimp a Butterfly, and it was stated over and over that Butterfly is a metaphor for talent. This album is him pimping his talent for profit to get out, but then dealing with the depression of survivor's guilt, and at the same time wanting to uplift his community all while being selfish and getting out the community. For reals, this album is DENSE. There is so much in it, and so much to digest that even after two complete listens, I still didn't catch 50% of what I think I heard. Content wise, this album is loaded on content. And the order of the songs is important, because out of order this album would just be all over the place. Like it makes sense to have Blacker the Berry after Complexion (A Zulu Love). Also, the some tracks are really deep, but is coded with basic hood talk, like Hood Politics. Basically using terms that we said as kids, and then mixing it up with the title of a Jesse Ventura book, Kendrick swings from hood to educated language throughout the whole song. And he does it effortlessly. He calls Lucifer Lucy throughout the album. Talks about wanting to kill himself if some songs. This album is so loaded.So with that said, the album flows, it is deep, lyrical, lots of content, not only has replay value, it NEEDS to be replayed just to catch everything. Now to the music.A long time ago I wrote a lot on how you can't catch people with lyrics if you have bad beats. At the time, I was talking about these underground cats who always wondered why they have so much skill yet no one is listening to them. Since the Love Below, and basically all of Kanye West post-Dropout, these beats don't seem so experimental or even bad. There is a lot more Jazz in the music, a hint of G-Funk and it gives off an experimental vibe that's similar to OutKast or early Kanye West. I can't explain it too well, other than some songs might be drowned out by trumpets. One track, I forgot the name, did have a hint of those old G-Funk whistles. It was very refreshing. LOL. The first 3-4 songs are very funky as well, and I really was just enjoying the hell out of them. Overall, right now I can't pick out a true single's track, maybe King Kunta. But this album was not made to have radio tracks. I felt the same way about Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City too, but Swimming Pools and Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe took off. But any track that makes the radio will probably need to be redone to fit radio sound. But that's not unheard of, and it's not even unheard of for Kendrick. I can see remixes being big on the radio.My overall feeling on this album, I like it. I also own all of Kanye's albums, and OutKast. To me, this is not alternative hip-hop, or experimental hip-hop, this style has been out for at least 10 years. It's different for the westcoast, but it very much fits in hip-hop over the last 10 years. I almost see this as Kendrick trying for his own Me Against the World. At the time, 2Pac was doing Thug Life, his sound was really raw and aggressive, and then he put out Me Against the World which was different than what he did before. It was almost like he made a whole album of Keep Your Head Up. This feels like Kendrick making a whole album that was meant to uplift, deal with issues and be something people talk about for a long time. It captures the times we are in, it has lots of Black Lives Matters overtones, it sounds like hip-hop today, it is very much the soundtrack of right now. I'd say the one thing that is inconsistent is that the lyrics spit over the music are very raw and real, were as the music don't fit the themes of the lyrics. But I think that's done on purpose. I heard him spit some of those lyrics over a few Biggie's beats and it sounded so raw. But over this album it sounds more thought provoking. So yeah, that's a quick reaction to this album. Stand out tracks, of course Blacker the Berry, How Much Does a Dollar Cost and Hood Politics. Also U is very good and I think These Walls could be a single if worked out right. I'll give this album a 4 out of 5. It's a masterpiece, but it's not quite a classic. At least not yet. Unlike many rap albums, in order to tell if this album is a classic, you have to see the way people interact with it and digest it. Good Kid was very much an album of Kendrick tell you his life, this album was meant to be interacted with and process. Very different, and so to give it instant classic status is very premature.
Quote from: CORREA on March 16, 2015, 05:17:24 PMQuote from: Black Excellence on March 16, 2015, 05:10:52 PMQuote from: CORREA on March 16, 2015, 05:09:42 PMQuote from: Black Excellence on March 16, 2015, 05:02:41 PMQuote from: CORREA on March 16, 2015, 04:32:46 PMQuote from: Black Excellence on March 16, 2015, 04:14:53 PMthe album is great for those who suffer from insomnia.dont get mad cause ti cant do other then the typical generic garbage thats already out there no I'm mad cause this nigga has dr. dre at his disposal and his beats is delicate as fuck.fuck dre he never needed him LOL he need to leave soundwave and them other niggas alone.soundwave and ali and others are responsible for building tde with their production them beats is wack. they fucked up the album wit them delicate beats.
Quote from: Black Excellence on March 16, 2015, 05:10:52 PMQuote from: CORREA on March 16, 2015, 05:09:42 PMQuote from: Black Excellence on March 16, 2015, 05:02:41 PMQuote from: CORREA on March 16, 2015, 04:32:46 PMQuote from: Black Excellence on March 16, 2015, 04:14:53 PMthe album is great for those who suffer from insomnia.dont get mad cause ti cant do other then the typical generic garbage thats already out there no I'm mad cause this nigga has dr. dre at his disposal and his beats is delicate as fuck.fuck dre he never needed him LOL he need to leave soundwave and them other niggas alone.soundwave and ali and others are responsible for building tde with their production
Quote from: CORREA on March 16, 2015, 05:09:42 PMQuote from: Black Excellence on March 16, 2015, 05:02:41 PMQuote from: CORREA on March 16, 2015, 04:32:46 PMQuote from: Black Excellence on March 16, 2015, 04:14:53 PMthe album is great for those who suffer from insomnia.dont get mad cause ti cant do other then the typical generic garbage thats already out there no I'm mad cause this nigga has dr. dre at his disposal and his beats is delicate as fuck.fuck dre he never needed him LOL he need to leave soundwave and them other niggas alone.
Quote from: Black Excellence on March 16, 2015, 05:02:41 PMQuote from: CORREA on March 16, 2015, 04:32:46 PMQuote from: Black Excellence on March 16, 2015, 04:14:53 PMthe album is great for those who suffer from insomnia.dont get mad cause ti cant do other then the typical generic garbage thats already out there no I'm mad cause this nigga has dr. dre at his disposal and his beats is delicate as fuck.fuck dre he never needed him
Quote from: CORREA on March 16, 2015, 04:32:46 PMQuote from: Black Excellence on March 16, 2015, 04:14:53 PMthe album is great for those who suffer from insomnia.dont get mad cause ti cant do other then the typical generic garbage thats already out there no I'm mad cause this nigga has dr. dre at his disposal and his beats is delicate as fuck.
Quote from: Black Excellence on March 16, 2015, 04:14:53 PMthe album is great for those who suffer from insomnia.dont get mad cause ti cant do other then the typical generic garbage thats already out there
the album is great for those who suffer from insomnia.
Delicate? Beats?So that's what makes me now?Man, I don't give a fuck about no beat
Quote from: djole 213 on March 18, 2015, 05:04:22 AMhttp://www.hiphopdx.com/index/album-reviews/id.2443/title.kendrick-lamar-to-pimp-a-butterflyReading some of the comments it's clear that for some young people this will be their Illmatic. Because they don't know any better
Can't get enough of this.
Lmao at people saying this is a classic or a masterpiece, then saying it's gonna probably have some decent replay value. How low are your standards
Quote from: Do Buy Albums on March 18, 2015, 10:38:54 AMLmao at people saying this is a classic or a masterpiece, then saying it's gonna probably have some decent replay value. How low are your standards Hum.... Interesting. As I said, it's very artistic. Lots of time put into this. It's a great piece of music. What more do you want? Illmatic? Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City? The Chronic? Those come only once in a while now. This is its own lane, its own style that is to be listened to differently. If you can't understand that, it's cool. Music is subjective. But know you are in a minority.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on March 18, 2015, 10:44:05 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on March 18, 2015, 10:38:54 AMLmao at people saying this is a classic or a masterpiece, then saying it's gonna probably have some decent replay value. How low are your standards Hum.... Interesting. As I said, it's very artistic. Lots of time put into this. It's a great piece of music. What more do you want? Illmatic? Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City? The Chronic? Those come only once in a while now. This is its own lane, its own style that is to be listened to differently. If you can't understand that, it's cool. Music is subjective. But know you are in a minority.If it's a true classic or masterpiece you could play it every day forever and it wouldn't get old
Quote from: Do Buy Albums on March 18, 2015, 06:22:54 AMQuote from: djole 213 on March 18, 2015, 05:04:22 AMhttp://www.hiphopdx.com/index/album-reviews/id.2443/title.kendrick-lamar-to-pimp-a-butterflyReading some of the comments it's clear that for some young people this will be their Illmatic. Because they don't know any better tpab is for those people who think they're smart but is still on some basic shit. atysyc >>>>>
Quote from: Black Excellence on March 18, 2015, 11:09:30 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on March 18, 2015, 06:22:54 AMQuote from: djole 213 on March 18, 2015, 05:04:22 AMhttp://www.hiphopdx.com/index/album-reviews/id.2443/title.kendrick-lamar-to-pimp-a-butterflyReading some of the comments it's clear that for some young people this will be their Illmatic. Because they don't know any better tpab is for those people who think they're smart but is still on some basic shit. atysyc >>>>>ti is on some basic shit and with a shit load of features on his albums typical south rapper