Author Topic: Israel doesn't even exit  (Read 4346 times)

V2DHeart

Re: Israel doesn't even exit
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2020, 03:46:30 AM »
I really can’t fathom how anyone can deny ethnic cleansing took place in Palestine, when even Israel’s very own IDF archives contain details of some of these ethnic cleansing operations and massacres, as does many of Ben Gurions diary entries and the Hagana archives just to name some of them. Take away the Deir Yassin Massacre (which was disgusting on its own) others like Haifa have never really been given too much attention, despite major atrocities being carried out there against children. And Israel have ignored UN resolutions too. May want to look up UN resolution 194 if you deny that as well as they have blatantly ignored any attempt to make right what they did wrong, and still do. Only last week an Israeli sniper had shot a little 9 year old kid Abdelrahman in the head. This comes after them shooting that other kid in the back and killing him just last month. I really can’t get my head around anyone supporting this kind of rotten behaviour.

The ironic thing is, that Israel have been doing to the Palestinians for 70 years what they have accused the Nazis of doing to them for 8 years.

I’m just glad we live in a world where there are still those with a moral compass out there who stand by the plight of the Palestinians, those that simply won’t bend over and comply with the erosion of rights, property, and basic humanity.
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V2DHeart

Re: Israel doesn't even exit
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2020, 04:00:20 AM »

wasn’t their land to begin with


That poor justification can applied to almost any nation in 2020. This does not give anyone the right to bulldoze over an entire population.

“Used to be our ancestors land thousands upon thousands of years ago in biblical times therefore were taking it back by blood thirsty force” - It just sounds like a childish attempt to mask over the callous greed, lack of empathy and type of people they are.

That’s like Native Americans obtaining hundreds of millions in foreign “aid” (and would have a better argument for it than the Jews) and beginning to carry out massacres all over the United States to take back their land, murdering thousands of innocents and confining the surviving Americans into a small ghetto-like state. And the world just sits back and watches, not in 2020 but like say in the year 4020. That’s how ridiculous this entire thing is when you put it into context
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Sccit

Re: Israel doesn't even exit
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2020, 08:57:22 AM »
I really can’t fathom how anyone can deny ethnic cleansing took place in Palestine, when even Israel’s very own IDF archives contain details of some of these ethnic cleansing operations and massacres, as does many of Ben Gurions diary entries and the Hagana archives just to name some of them. Take away the Deir Yassin Massacre (which was disgusting on its own) others like Haifa have never really been given too much attention, despite major atrocities being carried out there against children. And Israel have ignored UN resolutions too. May want to look up UN resolution 194 if you deny that as well as they have blatantly ignored any attempt to make right what they did wrong, and still do. Only last week an Israeli sniper had shot a little 9 year old kid Abdelrahman in the head. This comes after them shooting that other kid in the back and killing him just last month. I really can’t get my head around anyone supporting this kind of rotten behaviour.

The ironic thing is, that Israel have been doing to the Palestinians for 70 years what they have accused the Nazis of doing to them for 8 years.

I’m just glad we live in a world where there are still those with a moral compass out there who stand by the plight of the Palestinians, those that simply won’t bend over and comply with the erosion of rights, property, and basic humanity.


no ones guna take you serious when u compare what’s going on in israel to the holocaust

u are clearly brainwashed by arab propaganda beyond belief if you try to simplify such a complex situation and attribute it to “ethnic cleansing”

awful stuff all around

Sccit

Re: Israel doesn't even exit
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2020, 09:00:46 AM »

wasn’t their land to begin with


That poor justification can applied to almost any nation in 2020. This does not give anyone the right to bulldoze over an entire population.

“Used to be our ancestors land thousands upon thousands of years ago in biblical times therefore were taking it back by blood thirsty force” - It just sounds like a childish attempt to mask over the callous greed, lack of empathy and type of people they are.

That’s like Native Americans obtaining hundreds of millions in foreign “aid” (and would have a better argument for it than the Jews) and beginning to carry out massacres all over the United States to take back their land, murdering thousands of innocents and confining the surviving Americans into a small ghetto-like state. And the world just sits back and watches, not in 2020 but like say in the year 4020. That’s how ridiculous this entire thing is when you put it into context

and like i said, every nation was conquered at one point or another, and most of them with far less rights to do so .. how many of them are still fighting a lost war tho?

the native americans will never be legally signed over america by the governing people, so that was an awful example .. a better example would be “imagine it native americans were still blowing up buses in america because they were mad that it’s no longer their land” ..... only europeans never had real claim to america in the first place, so that would actually be far more understandable than what the arabs are doin, as absurd as it may sound.

V2DHeart

Re: Israel doesn't even exit
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2020, 11:39:44 AM »
What Arab propaganda? It’s common knowledge now that the Jewish have a monopoly on news distribution in the West, and it’s known on the origins of Hollywood. You’d be hard pressed to find a pro-Arab narrative in any Western country under those conditions. France has just recently criminalised the boycotting of Israel, with UK and US strongly in favour of pro-Israel policies. No, you’d have to dig a little to get an informed and more impartial opinion, let alone one that was predominantly pro-Arab.

There was nothing I listed that was propagandist in nature. As mentioned before, the ethnic cleansing operations are in Israel’s very own IDF archives. Some of Ben Gurions diary and meeting excerpts define and correlate with what is in these archives too. Every month there is an atrocity of some kind involving the murder of an innocent child or civilian. There is footage of the Muhammad al-Durrah incident that caused international outrage. Last month that boy who was shot in the back only went to court thanks to the leaked camera phone footage. The Israeli judge, Elad Persky, even said that it was a “a dubious form of entertainment”. The UN general assembly resolution 194 isn’t propaganda either. These is all verifiable facts.

Comparing the Israeli treatment of Palestinians to the holocaust is no exaggeration and very accurate. One of the primary factors any official genocidal treatment begins with de-humanising a race or population. Israel has ‘openly’ done this in the 40’s (just like Germany did) and as mentioned before about Deir Yassin, well Israel had destroyed over 500 villages, some with thousands of residents and placed many of the former (and surviving) inhabitants into work based labour camps, right up until 1955 (sound familiar?) there are many many more similarities, but
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V2DHeart

Re: Israel doesn't even exit
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2020, 11:47:39 AM »

wasn’t their land to begin with


That poor justification can applied to almost any nation in 2020. This does not give anyone the right to bulldoze over an entire population.

“Used to be our ancestors land thousands upon thousands of years ago in biblical times therefore were taking it back by blood thirsty force” - It just sounds like a childish attempt to mask over the callous greed, lack of empathy and type of people they are.

That’s like Native Americans obtaining hundreds of millions in foreign “aid” (and would have a better argument for it than the Jews) and beginning to carry out massacres all over the United States to take back their land, murdering thousands of innocents and confining the surviving Americans into a small ghetto-like state. And the world just sits back and watches, not in 2020 but like say in the year 4020. That’s how ridiculous this entire thing is when you put it into context

and like i said, every nation was conquered at one point or another, and most of them with far less rights to do so .. how many of them are still fighting a lost war tho?

the native americans will never be legally signed over america by the governing people, so that was an awful example .. a better example would be “imagine it native americans were still blowing up buses in america because they were mad that it’s no longer their land” ..... only europeans never had real claim to america in the first place, so that would actually be far more understandable than what the arabs are doin, as absurd as it may sound.

You missed the point. The Native Americans are supposed to be the Jews in that analogy, ‘not’ the Palestinians! I am saying that this is like Native Americans springing up from 500 - 1000 years from now, carrying out ethnic cleansing. and murdering white Americans and destroying their homes and expelling them to labour camps and cramped and controlled ghettos, by staking historical claim to the land. All while ignoring UN resolutions. The only difference is that the native Americans have a somewhat more legitimate claim to the land due to it being more recent
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Sccit

Re: Israel doesn't even exit
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2020, 11:55:15 AM »

wasn’t their land to begin with


That poor justification can applied to almost any nation in 2020. This does not give anyone the right to bulldoze over an entire population.

“Used to be our ancestors land thousands upon thousands of years ago in biblical times therefore were taking it back by blood thirsty force” - It just sounds like a childish attempt to mask over the callous greed, lack of empathy and type of people they are.

That’s like Native Americans obtaining hundreds of millions in foreign “aid” (and would have a better argument for it than the Jews) and beginning to carry out massacres all over the United States to take back their land, murdering thousands of innocents and confining the surviving Americans into a small ghetto-like state. And the world just sits back and watches, not in 2020 but like say in the year 4020. That’s how ridiculous this entire thing is when you put it into context

and like i said, every nation was conquered at one point or another, and most of them with far less rights to do so .. how many of them are still fighting a lost war tho?

the native americans will never be legally signed over america by the governing people, so that was an awful example .. a better example would be “imagine it native americans were still blowing up buses in america because they were mad that it’s no longer their land” ..... only europeans never had real claim to america in the first place, so that would actually be far more understandable than what the arabs are doin, as absurd as it may sound.

You missed the point. The Native Americans are supposed to be the Jews in that analogy, ‘not’ the Palestinians! I am saying that this is like Native Americans springing up from 500 - 1000 years from now, carrying out ethnic cleansing. and murdering white Americans and destroying their homes and expelling them to labour camps and cramped and controlled ghettos, by staking historical claim to the land. All while ignoring UN resolutions. The only difference is that the native Americans have a somewhat more legitimate claim to the land due to it being more recent

your analogy is trash because in reality the native americans are more comparable to the palestinians .. only europeans had no actual right to the land because they never lived there, weren’t signed it over by the official government, and actually performed mass genocide to get it.... so yea, do better with your comparisons brodie.

Sccit

Re: Israel doesn't even exit
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2020, 12:02:23 PM »
What Arab propaganda? It’s common knowledge now that the Jewish have a monopoly on news distribution in the West, and it’s known on the origins of Hollywood. You’d be hard pressed to find a pro-Arab narrative in any Western country under those conditions. France has just recently criminalised the boycotting of Israel, with UK and US strongly in favour of pro-Israel policies. No, you’d have to dig a little to get an informed and more impartial opinion, let alone one that was predominantly pro-Arab.

There was nothing I listed that was propagandist in nature. As mentioned before, the ethnic cleansing operations are in Israel’s very own IDF archives. Some of Ben Gurions diary and meeting excerpts define and correlate with what is in these archives too. Every month there is an atrocity of some kind involving the murder of an innocent child or civilian. There is footage of the Muhammad al-Durrah incident that caused international outrage. Last month that boy who was shot in the back only went to court thanks to the leaked camera phone footage. The Israeli judge, Elad Persky, even said that it was a “a dubious form of entertainment”. The UN general assembly resolution 194 isn’t propaganda either. These is all verifiable facts.

Comparing the Israeli treatment of Palestinians to the holocaust is no exaggeration and very accurate. One of the primary factors any official genocidal treatment begins with de-humanising a race or population. Israel has ‘openly’ done this in the 40’s (just like Germany did) and as mentioned before about Deir Yassin, well Israel had destroyed over 500 villages, some with thousands of residents and placed many of the former (and surviving) inhabitants into work based labour camps, right up until 1955 (sound familiar?) there are many many more similarities, but


you’re clearly not from the US if you don’t understand the magnitude of arab propaganda, fueled by the extreme liberals... actually, because israel is so far advanced when it comes to military, the palestinians number 1 tool against them is propaganda and spreading falsities to brainwash sympathizers such as yaself.

when are you going to start sympathizing with the daily inhumane activities practiced against jews, by arabs who run with terrorist organizations? the fact of the matter is if palestinians swallowed their pride and accepted that israel belongs to the jews, then there would be peace. but they’re stubborn and ego driven, so they will continue fighting a lost war, not giving a fuck about casualties on their side, but rather embracing it so that they can use it as propaganda. open your eyes.

V2DHeart

Re: Israel doesn't even exit
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2020, 07:31:41 AM »
So ethnic cleansing and how the Israelis have been treating the Palestinians for the past 70 years is acceptable? Murdering innocent kids for fun?Ignoring UN resolutions? Why, all because Israel have a superior military and were granted the land by the British the Palestinians should just lay down? Israel was only granted to the Jews in an accelerated fashion because of terrorist attacks carried out by the Jews against the British. This is known history that many pro-Israel supporters like to conveniently forget. Sorry, but I don’t accept that mindset of just lay over. If that were the case, France shouldn’t have even bothered fighting the superior German military during WW2. Hell, Tank man should have simply moved out of the way of those tanks at Tiananmen Square.

Also the analogy is not trash, you’re just not understanding it. So I’ll try and simplify it so that it’s better understood;

1) The Jews during the 20’s / 30’s staked historical claim on the land of Palestine, which the majority of inhabitants are unsurprisingly Palestinians, who had lived there for hundreds (/ thousands) of years.
(A lot of white Americans have stayed in the US for over 100 years now, similar to the Palestinians of which the Jews claim are not actually ingenuous inhabitants of the land, that, they, the Jews are, despite no concrete evidence other than staking claim based on excerpts from the Talmud and other flimsy “evidence”. This is why I said that this is just like the Native Americans coming out a thousand years from now and staking claim and a take back of land from white Americans.

2) The Jews then start ethnic cleansing operations against those who have and are actually currently living on the land in the hundreds of thousands! Many massacred and deported into work based labour camps. Hence why I said this is like the Native Americans (who actually have a better argument and stake of claim to the US, than the Jews do to Palestine) hundreds of years from now going on a rampage and thinning out every state of all of the white / black Americans, murdering many and enclosing many into camps of ghettos and continuing the discriminatory, and even criminal actions against the white / black Americans.

I have never understood this desire for non Jews to cheerlead so passionately for a state, whose main religious message via the Talmud expressively states that the role of non Jews is simply to serve Jews. Judging by your earlier responses, you seem like a compliant, do-as-your-told-kind of person. That’s all fine and well when states operate a bit more humanely, awful when verging towards tyranny
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Sccit

Re: Israel doesn't even exit
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2020, 07:59:06 AM »
So ethnic cleansing and how the Israelis have been treating the Palestinians for the past 70 years is acceptable? Murdering innocent kids for fun?Ignoring UN resolutions? Why, all because Israel have a superior military and were granted the land by the British the Palestinians should just lay down? Israel was only granted to the Jews in an accelerated fashion because of terrorist attacks carried out by the Jews against the British. This is known history that many pro-Israel supporters like to conveniently forget. Sorry, but I don’t accept that mindset of just lay over. If that were the case, France shouldn’t have even bothered fighting the superior German military during WW2. Hell, Tank man should have simply moved out of the way of those tanks at Tiananmen Square.

Also the analogy is not trash, you’re just not understanding it. So I’ll try and simplify it so that it’s better understood;

1) The Jews during the 20’s / 30’s staked historical claim on the land of Palestine, which the majority of inhabitants are unsurprisingly Palestinians, who had lived there for hundreds (/ thousands) of years.
(A lot of white Americans have stayed in the US for over 100 years now, similar to the Palestinians of which the Jews claim are not actually ingenuous inhabitants of the land, that, they, the Jews are, despite no concrete evidence other than staking claim based on excerpts from the Talmud and other flimsy “evidence”. This is why I said that this is just like the Native Americans coming out a thousand years from now and staking claim and a take back of land from white Americans.

2) The Jews then start ethnic cleansing operations against those who have and are actually currently living on the land in the hundreds of thousands! Many massacred and deported into work based labour camps. Hence why I said this is like the Native Americans (who actually have a better argument and stake of claim to the US, than the Jews do to Palestine) hundreds of years from now going on a rampage and thinning out every state of all of the white / black Americans, murdering many and enclosing many into camps of ghettos and continuing the discriminatory, and even criminal actions against the white / black Americans.

I have never understood this desire for non Jews to cheerlead so passionately for a state, whose main religious message via the Talmud expressively states that the role of non Jews is simply to serve Jews. Judging by your earlier responses, you seem like a compliant, do-as-your-told-kind of person. That’s all fine and well when states operate a bit more humanely, awful when verging towards tyranny


“murdering palestinian kids for fun”

that simply doesn’t happen and you’re nothing more than a victim of palestinian propaganda who is too deep in his manipulated belief to see the light


if you truly care to learn how they have u by the balls, then read this:

https://jcpa.org/overview_palestinian_manipulation/manufacturing_and_exploiting_compassion_abuse_of_the_media/


also your ideas on the talmud are based on nazi propaganda .... basically your entire ideology is based on misinformation. it’s very sad that people like u spew this nonsense without doing the genuine research.

http://talmud.faithweb.com/

V2DHeart

Re: Israel doesn't even exit
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2020, 08:40:44 AM »
I think your just trolling now  ;D

It was only last month for crying out loud that the Israeli justice ministry had completed a criminal investigation into the Palestinian boy shot in the ‘back’ by a laughing Israeli soldier. It isn’t propaganda, it’s a fact. It just doesn’t happen? It happens quite regularly. Hell, even the UN report from 2018 has 10 outstanding cases out of the 58 Palestinian children killed by Israeli forces. I guess the UN are in on the propaganda? A 2 state solution could work, but Israel aren’t interested. It’s evidenced by their continual land grab to this very day, and the fact that Israel ignore the UN resolution for the right of return. These are all facts, you can cite “propaganda” but most of the examples I’ve used are from the UN and Israeli governments own files so there’s no denial or diversion of calling it “nazi propaganda”
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V2DHeart

Re: Israel doesn't even exit
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2020, 08:58:07 AM »

if you truly care to learn how they have u by the balls, then read this:

https://jcpa.org/overview_palestinian_manipulation/manufacturing_and_exploiting_compassion_abuse_of_the_media/


also your ideas on the talmud are based on nazi propaganda .... basically your entire ideology is based on misinformation. it’s very sad that people like u spew this nonsense without doing the genuine research.

http://talmud.faithweb.com/

I’ve briefly looked over the jcpa.org article (which is pro Israel btw, not impartial or unbiased) and some of it is true. Some of the Palestinians are no angels. This is not what I’m saying, but Israel are continually using the victim card. Victims of threats of annihilation or always used to justify aggression, under a protective mantra. They’ve been using this “threat of annihilation” for a very long time now in almost every country they’ve been expelled from (it’s a very large list). Spain, Russia, South Africa, there are others but I just find it very difficult to believe the Jewish cry of victim when the numbers just don’t stack up. You take a look at the death ratio between Israelis and Palestinians, even if you take away the 600,000+ from the 40s to give Israel a head start it still doesn’t stack up evenly or anywhere close to. I think many pro Israeli supporters are of the belief that there are many more Israeli casualties than Palestinians but this is not true at all
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Sccit

Re: Israel doesn't even exit
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2020, 01:29:01 PM »
so the israelis act like victims but palestinians don’t? lollllllll

bottom line they been needed to fall back .. right now 95% of idf purpose is to protect israel against a constant threat. if palestinians let go then everything would be fine n dandy but they’re pride driven and stupidly stubborn. period.

dexter

Re: Israel doesn't even exit
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2020, 01:18:45 PM »
really :-\
 

Sami Ahmed

Re: Israel doesn't even exit
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2020, 06:39:52 PM »
so the israelis act like victims but palestinians don’t? lollllllll

bottom line they been needed to fall back .. right now 95% of idf purpose is to protect israel against a constant threat. if palestinians let go then everything would be fine n dandy but they’re pride driven and stupidly stubborn. period.

That's their land. And your people reappropriate their culture explicitly to become them after you kill them all off. Believe me when I tell you at some point the moral law is going to defeat the evil that is the false Israel. It's literally a nation of serial killers that claims victimhood because the victims fight back. You'll get yours. There is a hell and you'll be there.