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Quote from: M Dogg™ on July 31, 2017, 09:59:45 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on July 29, 2017, 05:33:42 PMThis is where the media polarizing the country is out of control. Kyrie is being a punk bitch. Almost as weak as when Kobe demanded a trade because he had '07 Cleveland teammates for a couple years. Quote from: M Dogg™ on July 27, 2017, 09:24:42 AMHe was always trying to put a super team of his buddies together. He lacked that tunnel vision that the true GOATs had, the tunnel vision that they were going to run through the league, and no one is stopping them.I honestly need to know from a basketball fan perspective if you're just trying to out-troll NIK knocking LeBron. Boston set the mold, LeBron ran with it. MJ & Kobe were part of a system & excelled at it. A system no one else in the league could figure out, especially with all-time talents & best players in the league running it. Just unmatched. This "tough 90's" you want to believe there was for Jordan, Kobe & Shaq were literally the two best players in the entire league & had to beat the Kings & the league helped them do it lol. It's a joke when you act like "dude...I don't get it, why can't LeBron win?" He's been the Vegas favorite to win one time. Kobe & MJ we're favorites all 11 combined appearances.The triangle, this motion offense the Warriors/Spurs/Cavs run, it clearly isn't beatable. You had the goddamn Hawks winning 60 games a couple years back running it. & the Warriors just have the supreme pieces to run it at the highest level. Analytics are taking over the game & Steph/Klay/Durant with Draymond won't be outshot from deep & if you want to attack & trade 3's vs 2's, you're still gonna lose.Let me ask you, let's say the Warriors win 4 more in a row...you're gonna tell me "wow, Bron could just never get it done?". That's fucking autistic lol. Don't hide behind stupid, nostalgic fairytales that the Lakers/80's Lakers or Jordan would of blown through these Warriors. They would of gotten destroyed just on common sense alone. 3's > 2's. I'd say the threepeat Lakers would win one game because Shaq would inevitably put up 60 & 25. But that's tough to say, because they would just hack him, put him on the line & come back & nail 3's.Out troll? LOLDude, let's face it, LeBron is the biggest what if in NBA history. His career will go down as a HUGE disappointment. There is no debating it. And if he loses Kyrie, he wouldn't catch Kobe, let alone Jordan. He might get one more title, maybe. Rumor is he wants to join the Lakers, and if that's true, then I'll take him. But his time to be a top tier all time great has past. And it's sad because he's so much more athletic than all the rest. But he just was missing that IT, that one thing that drives the greatest ever to be the greatest ever. Greatness is different from best all time, or most athletic all time. Greatness is that something extra, and LeBron had it once, and I've never seen it again.The only "what if"'s are "what if the league didn't have better teams by a mile for 7 years?", "what if Durant didn't pull the ultimate bitch move in the history of the league & cost him a really strong chance at repeating?" & "what if despite that & now Kyrie he still goes on to win 2-3 more?".Like the only reason you are currently shaping your angle as like "welllllllp that was it. It's over, he'll never win another one now, geeeez what a shame...can't be a great" is because you see the Warriors. You're pretty much saying there is an impossible obstacle in front of him & it's "such a damn shame". But like, do you have the mental capacity of, I don't know...let's say a nine year old? I'll say you do, because you've had competent posts before. Can you not just see the body of work for 14 seasons & see the greatness that is LeBron? Or is it just that important to frame the conversation "Ohhhhhh but Kobe is so much greater"?Just such a foolish viewpoint to see what's in front of you.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on July 29, 2017, 05:33:42 PMThis is where the media polarizing the country is out of control. Kyrie is being a punk bitch. Almost as weak as when Kobe demanded a trade because he had '07 Cleveland teammates for a couple years. Quote from: M Dogg™ on July 27, 2017, 09:24:42 AMHe was always trying to put a super team of his buddies together. He lacked that tunnel vision that the true GOATs had, the tunnel vision that they were going to run through the league, and no one is stopping them.I honestly need to know from a basketball fan perspective if you're just trying to out-troll NIK knocking LeBron. Boston set the mold, LeBron ran with it. MJ & Kobe were part of a system & excelled at it. A system no one else in the league could figure out, especially with all-time talents & best players in the league running it. Just unmatched. This "tough 90's" you want to believe there was for Jordan, Kobe & Shaq were literally the two best players in the entire league & had to beat the Kings & the league helped them do it lol. It's a joke when you act like "dude...I don't get it, why can't LeBron win?" He's been the Vegas favorite to win one time. Kobe & MJ we're favorites all 11 combined appearances.The triangle, this motion offense the Warriors/Spurs/Cavs run, it clearly isn't beatable. You had the goddamn Hawks winning 60 games a couple years back running it. & the Warriors just have the supreme pieces to run it at the highest level. Analytics are taking over the game & Steph/Klay/Durant with Draymond won't be outshot from deep & if you want to attack & trade 3's vs 2's, you're still gonna lose.Let me ask you, let's say the Warriors win 4 more in a row...you're gonna tell me "wow, Bron could just never get it done?". That's fucking autistic lol. Don't hide behind stupid, nostalgic fairytales that the Lakers/80's Lakers or Jordan would of blown through these Warriors. They would of gotten destroyed just on common sense alone. 3's > 2's. I'd say the threepeat Lakers would win one game because Shaq would inevitably put up 60 & 25. But that's tough to say, because they would just hack him, put him on the line & come back & nail 3's.Out troll? LOLDude, let's face it, LeBron is the biggest what if in NBA history. His career will go down as a HUGE disappointment. There is no debating it. And if he loses Kyrie, he wouldn't catch Kobe, let alone Jordan. He might get one more title, maybe. Rumor is he wants to join the Lakers, and if that's true, then I'll take him. But his time to be a top tier all time great has past. And it's sad because he's so much more athletic than all the rest. But he just was missing that IT, that one thing that drives the greatest ever to be the greatest ever. Greatness is different from best all time, or most athletic all time. Greatness is that something extra, and LeBron had it once, and I've never seen it again.
This is where the media polarizing the country is out of control. Kyrie is being a punk bitch. Almost as weak as when Kobe demanded a trade because he had '07 Cleveland teammates for a couple years. Quote from: M Dogg™ on July 27, 2017, 09:24:42 AMHe was always trying to put a super team of his buddies together. He lacked that tunnel vision that the true GOATs had, the tunnel vision that they were going to run through the league, and no one is stopping them.I honestly need to know from a basketball fan perspective if you're just trying to out-troll NIK knocking LeBron. Boston set the mold, LeBron ran with it. MJ & Kobe were part of a system & excelled at it. A system no one else in the league could figure out, especially with all-time talents & best players in the league running it. Just unmatched. This "tough 90's" you want to believe there was for Jordan, Kobe & Shaq were literally the two best players in the entire league & had to beat the Kings & the league helped them do it lol. It's a joke when you act like "dude...I don't get it, why can't LeBron win?" He's been the Vegas favorite to win one time. Kobe & MJ we're favorites all 11 combined appearances.The triangle, this motion offense the Warriors/Spurs/Cavs run, it clearly isn't beatable. You had the goddamn Hawks winning 60 games a couple years back running it. & the Warriors just have the supreme pieces to run it at the highest level. Analytics are taking over the game & Steph/Klay/Durant with Draymond won't be outshot from deep & if you want to attack & trade 3's vs 2's, you're still gonna lose.Let me ask you, let's say the Warriors win 4 more in a row...you're gonna tell me "wow, Bron could just never get it done?". That's fucking autistic lol. Don't hide behind stupid, nostalgic fairytales that the Lakers/80's Lakers or Jordan would of blown through these Warriors. They would of gotten destroyed just on common sense alone. 3's > 2's. I'd say the threepeat Lakers would win one game because Shaq would inevitably put up 60 & 25. But that's tough to say, because they would just hack him, put him on the line & come back & nail 3's.
He was always trying to put a super team of his buddies together. He lacked that tunnel vision that the true GOATs had, the tunnel vision that they were going to run through the league, and no one is stopping them.
Every person calling MJ dumb af. Obviously with a middle school aged quote like "5 is more than 3" any jackwad sees that he's just trying to solidify the title argument.He coulda explained why more than a number that Shaq is responsible for more than half of...Luckily, intelligent people overrule the dumb. https://www.youtube.com/v/wp43UYKquLM
Right. Who in like 2001 they swept to the Finals lmfao & then the next year, anyone can clearly and thoroughly see the corruption against Kings.& the pushback in the Finals those years..geez...how did Shaq ever overcome that?
Shaq was 3x Finals MVP. You can spin it however you need to for your survival.But what you're saying is if Wade in 2012 & 2013 & Kyrie in 2016 won Finals MVP you'd let me live that down where I could say "b-b-b-but LeBron was more important; ignore that.". Plain old idiotic, NIK.
Na, you just tried to pass your INSANELY biased opinion as a fact. & it's so skewed. Like Bosh & Wade > Shaq? What? The rest of the Lakers minus Kobe >>>> The rest of the Heat minus LeBron, dumbass.Won with Gasol? What? Best roster in the league is best roster in the league. Lakers had that 5 times in the 2000's & won every time.Comparing rosters doesn't mean anything. Especially when the league has dramatically changed since Kobe won. By that standard, Dirk's 1 was more impressive than all of Kobe's 5.