Dr Dre's production called into question by DMX producer

[Okka]

This is Same Grease right?

Dopeness.

You mean Dame Grease? No. It's a producer named Self aka Self Service. You can look at his credits on Discogs.

https://www.discogs.com/artist/175973-Self-2

[Lucifuge]

Its 2022, people still don know diference betwen producer and beatmaker. If you make a beat its dosent mean you produced a track. Or if you make a loop.

[Orbyte]

On the other hand people need to stop ask if dre "produced" this or that. He should rather be asked if he did the beat. That would be a whole other conversation.

Because dre still got that mindset where he thinks that it's about producing a record, not creating the actual beat.

[abusive]

On the other hand people need to stop ask if dre "produced" this or that. He should rather be asked if he did the beat. That would be a whole other conversation.

Because dre still got that mindset where he thinks that it's about producing a record, not creating the actual beat.

Do we know that for sure with any of the people named in the video? There was a time where we assumed produced by meant they did the beat. This was before the super producer title was created. Like I said before, it doesn't sound like Irv made the beat or even produced the song.

[TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96']

Do we know that for sure with any of the people named in the video? There was a time where we assumed produced by meant they did the beat. This was before the super producer title was created. Like I said before, it doesn't sound like Irv made the beat or even produced the song.

Yeah remember Eminem's first album SSLP- it was like "produced by Bass Brothers" for nearly all the tracks.  He becomes a star and then suddenly on his second album MMLP everything is "produced by Eminem" (co-produced by Bass Brothers or interlude, guitar, Jeff Bass). 

Eminem says he didn't realize doing his first album that when he was humming stuff to those guys or telling them "make it sound like this" that he was actually "producing". 

[Lucifuge]

Do we know that for sure with any of the people named in the video? There was a time where we assumed produced by meant they did the beat. This was before the super producer title was created. Like I said before, it doesn't sound like Irv made the beat or even produced the song.

Irv said it on drink champs. When he arrive energy of the song was trash, than he said it to X, its no good, do it again. And X step up in the booth and start yelling on the intro you think its a game, you think its a fucking game. Rest is history.

[Dee Tha AK]

Irv said it on drink champs. When he arrive energy of the song was trash, than he said it to X, its no good, do it again. And X step up in the booth and start yelling on the intro you think its a game, you think its a fucking game. Rest is history.

Remember when the vid dropped

The energy was was fiyah

X gon give it to ya too.

[abusive]

Irv said it on drink champs. When he arrive energy of the song was trash, than he said it to X, its no good, do it again. And X step up in the booth and start yelling on the intro you think its a game, you think its a fucking game. Rest is history.

Thanks. I'm just going by the video.

[abusive]

Yeah remember Eminem's first album SSLP- it was like "produced by Bass Brothers" for nearly all the tracks.  He becomes a star and then suddenly on his second album MMLP everything is "produced by Eminem" (co-produced by Bass Brothers or interlude, guitar, Jeff Bass). 

Eminem says he didn't realize doing his first album that when he was humming stuff to those guys or telling them "make it sound like this" that he was actually "producing".

Exactly. The most minute detail is considered production but you have a cult of people who want to say making the actual music isn't. It's funny how they break their necks to not call the beat makers producers so they can uplift themselves to super producer status.

[Lucifuge]

A lot of times beatmaker makes a beat send it to artist and dont do anything else on it. Like i said, beatmakeing and producing is two different worlds.

[abusive]

A lot of times beatmaker makes a beat send it to artist and dont do anything else on it. Like i said, beatmakeing and producing is two different worlds.

Making a beat is still apart of the production tho.

[Lucifuge]

Making a beat is still apart of the production tho.

It is.

[Okka]

Yeah remember Eminem's first album SSLP- it was like "produced by Bass Brothers" for nearly all the tracks.  He becomes a star and then suddenly on his second album MMLP everything is "produced by Eminem" (co-produced by Bass Brothers or interlude, guitar, Jeff Bass). 

Eminem says he didn't realize doing his first album that when he was humming stuff to those guys or telling them "make it sound like this" that he was actually "producing".

Exactly. Pac was a producer too.

[Dee Tha AK]

Exactly. Pac was a producer too.

Under

2Pac

https://www.discogs.com/artist/100752-2Pac?type=Credits&subtype=Production&filter_anv=0

Makaveli

https://www.discogs.com/artist/187503-Makaveli?type=Credits&subtype=Production&filter_anv=0

Thug Music

https://www.discogs.com/artist/173628-Thug-Music?type=Credits&subtype=Production&filter_anv=0