Author Topic: Sccit, do u like Phil Jackson? (Read 509 times)

Sccit · « **Reply #15 on:** August 01, 2024, 09:53:28 PM »

Quote from: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on August 01, 2024, 08:40:06 PM

Yeah I mean props to Riley for being able to change styles, but I'm definitely more of a Phil Jackson/Tex Winter or Don Nelson type of guy who would want to run my style of basketball wherever I went and then I'd try to find guys who would fit that style.

Like to use another sport as an example Bill Walsh is my favorite NFL coach. So Jackson is my favorite NBA coach and then Bill Walsh my favorite NFL coach.

So Bill Walsh had his system the West Coast Offense and then even when his team was 1-15 his first years with the 9ers he didn't give a fucc cause he was implementing his god damn system. Then he just kept pushing it till he got the right players that could run his system. That style makes more sense to me.

Again, I like Riley as a person, an analyst, and there is no denying what a great coach he is. I use these coaches as inspiration in the work that I do as a teacher. And some I can gleen knowledge from like Jackson and Walsh—but others I study and I get nothing from them.

I have the same problem with Bill Belicheck of the Patriots. I've studied him a lot trying to gleen anything useful from the guy and never gotten anything I can use. Obviously a great coach but nothing I could get from him.

the issue is that the run n gun style didn’t work in the 90s…. the tempo was slowed down and the game was too defensively oriented for that style to truly thrive. Paul Westhead was hired in the 90s by Denver and tried running it the way he did together with Riley for the early 80s Lakers & it flopped hard. So Riley would not have been as successful and wouldn’t have won a championship with Miami had he insisted on run n gun during that era.

TraceOneInfinite · « **Reply #16 on:** August 01, 2024, 10:09:34 PM »

Quote from: Sccit on August 01, 2024, 09:53:28 PM

the issue is that the run n gun style didn’t work in the 90s…. the tempo was slowed down and the game was too defensively oriented for that style to truly thrive. Paul Westhead was hired in the 90s by Denver and tried running it the way he did together with Riley for the early 80s Lakers & it flopped hard. So Riley would not have been as successful and wouldn’t have won a championship with Miami had he insisted on run n gun during that era.

Riley was a beast with NY and Miami. That NY team he had was like a fuccing NFL team or something. Anthony Mason is one of the most bad ass dudes ever to put on a pair of gym shorts. This guy could've been a tight end in the NFL. He could kick anybodies ass on the court. I wouldn't fucc wit that guy. Another guy was Xaviar McDanial--that classic nose to nose between Jordan and Xaviar "FUCK YOU" was 90's ball at it's best. Then you got Charles Oakley (whose book I also read) that guy tells a story of literally calling another NBA player who fucced his girl and being like, "I'm getting in the car and driving across the country I'll be there in 20 hours to beat the living shit out of you!" And he actually did it.

I agree, you wasn't gonna be runnin and gunnin wit dem folks on your team