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I don't remember "If We Give You A Chance" but yes, all those cuts are GOOD songs but not GREAT songs and not CLASSIC songs like what we had on G Funk Era. 

None of these songs are the level of the standout cuts on G Funk Era.  Even the 5 Footaz joint on G Funk Era is like classic shit--with a performance on the Show documentary.  The 5 Footaz also had a nice cut on the Jason's Lyric soundtrack.  But that unreleased solo I checked out over the weekend and it's garbage.  They just don't have enough depth to be anything more than a change of pace for someone else's album.  Like that Doggy's Angels album.  Even Rage solo sucked.  A lot of these female rappers need a ton of input and support to make it work.
 
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I don't remember "If We Give You A Chance" but yes, all those cuts are GOOD songs but not GREAT songs and not CLASSIC songs like what we had on G Funk Era. 

None of these songs are the level of the standout cuts on G Funk Era.  Even the 5 Footaz joint on G Funk Era is like classic shit--with a performance on the Show documentary.  The 5 Footaz also had a nice cut on the Jason's Lyric soundtrack.  But that unreleased solo I checked out over the weekend and it's garbage.  They just don't have enough depth to be anything more than a change of pace for someone else's album.  Like that Doggy's Angels album.  Even Rage solo sucked.  A lot of these female rappers need a ton of input and support to make it work.
 


Not trying to compare it to G Funk era was classic
 

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Classic album.
 

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I don't remember "If We Give You A Chance" but yes, all those cuts are GOOD songs but not GREAT songs and not CLASSIC songs like what we had on G Funk Era. 

None of these songs are the level of the standout cuts on G Funk Era.  Even the 5 Footaz joint on G Funk Era is like classic shit--with a performance on the Show documentary.  The 5 Footaz also had a nice cut on the Jason's Lyric soundtrack.  But that unreleased solo I checked out over the weekend and it's garbage.  They just don't have enough depth to be anything more than a change of pace for someone else's album.  Like that Doggy's Angels album.  Even Rage solo sucked.  A lot of these female rappers need a ton of input and support to make it work.
 


Really surprised you didn't like the 5 footaz unreleased album.  It's not a classic, but still has some nice joints on it....Bigger They R, Short Timez, PMS, Players Play, 5 Foot City, Walk Away and The Heist were all good.  It has Warren G, The Twinz, Roger Troutman, Erick Sermon on it.  I never saw actual production credits, but i can tell Warren produced the majority of this, back at the time where he was in full G Funk swing and was making good stuff. 

Neb Luv, Knee High, Jah Skillz were all good.  Later on, they added people like Cobra Red and they weren't as good anymore. 
 

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Playaz Play is a 9/10 song for sure.
 

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Really surprised you didn't like the 5 footaz unreleased album.  It's not a classic, but still has some nice joints on it....Bigger They R, Short Timez, PMS, Players Play, 5 Foot City, Walk Away and The Heist were all good.  It has Warren G, The Twinz, Roger Troutman, Erick Sermon on it.  I never saw actual production credits, but i can tell Warren produced the majority of this, back at the time where he was in full G Funk swing and was making good stuff. 

Neb Luv, Knee High, Jah Skillz were all good.  Later on, they added people like Cobra Red and they weren't as good anymore.


music consumption is usually based on moods and ideology

the way u intake music is largely dependent on the perception you have going in and the preconceived thoughts you possess upon first listening ... and the setting + mood you're in also plays a huge part in how you perceive the music upon consumption

that's why you didn't like hibernation shivers .. you went in thinking "oh this cute little project by dubcc members with rbx. no way they're touching soopafly or warren g. ill skim through it really quick tho!" so your ears follow what your brain tells it. that's why most the forum hated while every outsider fan that doesn't know us from this forum was in RBX dm telling him what a classic it was.


infinite probably went into the 5 footaz album already having those preconceived notions about female rappers.

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music consumption is usually based on moods and ideology

the way u intake music is largely dependent on the perception you have going in and the preconceived thoughts you possess upon first listening ... and the setting + mood you're in also plays a huge part in how you perceive the music upon consumption

that's why you didn't like hibernation shivers .. you went in thinking "oh this cute little project by dubcc members with rbx. no way they're touching soopafly or warren g. ill skim through it really quick tho!" so your ears follow what your brain tells it. that's why most the forum hated while every outsider fan that doesn't know us from this forum was in RBX dm telling him what a classic it was.


infinite probably went into the 5 footaz album already having those preconceived notions about female rappers.

I can tell you I had no preconceived notions listening to the RBX album. I do like i do with all new albums, pull it up and let it bump it my car for a few days as i drive around.  I wasn't feeling it, the beats were too slow and monotonous, RBX's delivery has slowed to a point i don't think he can carry a full album.  His speech and delivery sounded slurred at times.  And that's fine, he's aged, it's expected but doesn't mean we all have to give him a pass for it and like the album just because someone here produced it.  He's good for a verse here or there on guest spots.  The production quality was decent, not hating on you for that.  But just wasn't my taste, didn't have that westcoast sound i like. 

It does turn me off to the album a bit with how hard you continue to push it through these channels.  This post has absolutely nothing to do with your RBX album, yet you bring it up.  You've done this in many other posts as well.  It's cool, you're a hustler, you're using this forum and our members to try to push the album....but part of me knows if deep down you really thought the album was great, it would sell on its own through word of mouth and critical acclaim and wouldn't need you to keep bringing it up over and over again to attempt to push sales.  Shows a lack of confidence and insecurity in your work and RBX's work.  The fact that i made one post back when the album first came out that i wasn't feeling it, and that you remember it all this time later must've really wrecked you.  I couldn't tell you what albums anyone on here liked or didn't like.  Strange that my opinion of the album from months and months ago has still stuck with you. 
 

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I can tell you I had no preconceived notions listening to the RBX album. I do like i do with all new albums, pull it up and let it bump it my car for a few days as i drive around.  I wasn't feeling it, the beats were too slow and monotonous, RBX's delivery has slowed to a point i don't think he can carry a full album.  His speech and delivery sounded slurred at times.  And that's fine, he's aged, it's expected but doesn't mean we all have to give him a pass for it and like the album just because someone here produced it.  He's good for a verse here or there on guest spots.  The production quality was decent, not hating on you for that.  But just wasn't my taste, didn't have that westcoast sound i like. 

It does turn me off to the album a bit with how hard you continue to push it through these channels.  This post has absolutely nothing to do with your RBX album, yet you bring it up.  You've done this in many other posts as well.  It's cool, you're a hustler, you're using this forum and our members to try to push the album....but part of me knows if deep down you really thought the album was great, it would sell on its own through word of mouth and critical acclaim and wouldn't need you to keep bringing it up over and over again to attempt to push sales.  Shows a lack of confidence and insecurity in your work and RBX's work.  The fact that i made one post back when the album first came out that i wasn't feeling it, and that you remember it all this time later must've really wrecked you.  I couldn't tell you what albums anyone on here liked or didn't like.  Strange that my opinion of the album from months and months ago has still stuck with you.


i used it as an example because that's the one closest to us that i could use.. and of course i remember which posters showed love and which didn't. it's not some random album, it's an album i made. people on here still remember infinites opinions from 2003 on the lbc crew, u expect me not to remember posters opinions on my own shit? LOL!

look at what im saying, not the example used ... mood and feeling dictates how humans intake music.


that's a fact, not a theory..

you say you listen to all music the same, as if you are above human emotion affecting you in any way .... not practical


now as for your little jabs, that's not appreciated ... albums don't sell without mass marketing in this day and age. the critics spoke and it was reviewed beyond our expectations.. allhiphop called it a masterpiece.. murder dog gave it 4 1/2 mics ... sales did triple what we expected .. not sure where this idea that i'm "insecure" about it comes from when i simply used u as an example of how preconceptions and mood can dictate what ear you use when listening to music. there's a vibrational ear and a critical ear.. they're not one in the same and we juggle between them constantly.

as for the beats on hibernation shivers being monotonous and not west coast enough, you're just proving my point. if anything, the beats on that album were overly produced with musical input from the glove, jellyroll, big hutch etc. various session players.

let's ride, hibernation, midnight drive, the shivers, memories, the moon, don't lie to me, a billi, make em shiver .. all vastly layered beats with the prototypical west coast sound .. the point i was making was that if someone outside of this forum made the album you would listen with a different ear and be more inclined to peel back the layers. i'm not saying youre purposely going into an album saying "i don't wana like this!".. it's more of a subconscious thing that you may not even realize (even after me telling u)


and nobody's buying the album based off what i'm saying in this thread lollll.. so u can quit with the "hustler" talk and take what i'm saying at face value instead of overthinking it.



my primary point is about how we listen to music.. not about the quality of hibernation shivers.

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i used it as an example because that's the one closest to us that i could use.. and of course i remember which posters showed love and which didn't. it's not some random album, it's an album i made. people on here still remember infinites opinions from 2003 on the lbc crew, u expect me not to remember posters opinions on my own shit? LOL!

look at what im saying, not the example used ... mood and feeling dictates how humans intake music.


that's a fact, not a theory..

you say you listen to all music the same, as if you are above human emotion affecting you in any way .... not practical


now as for your little jabs, that's not appreciated ... albums don't sell without mass marketing in this day and age. the critics spoke and it was reviewed beyond our expectations.. allhiphop called it a masterpiece.. murder dog gave it 4 1/2 mics ... sales did triple what we expected .. not sure where this idea that i'm "insecure" about it comes from when i simply used u as an example of how preconceptions and mood can dictate what ear you use when listening to music. there's a vibrational ear and a critical ear.. they're not one in the same and we juggle between them constantly.

as for the beats on hibernation shivers being monotonous and not west coast enough, you're just proving my point. if anything, the beats on that album were overly produced with musical input from the glove, jellyroll, big hutch etc. various session players.

let's ride, hibernation, midnight drive, the shivers, memories, the moon, don't lie to me, a billi, make em shiver .. all vastly layered beats with the prototypical west coast sound .. the point i was making was that if someone outside of this forum made the album you would listen with a different ear and be more inclined to peel back the layers. i'm not saying youre purposely going into an album saying "i don't wana like this!".. it's more of a subconscious thing that you may not even realize (even after me telling u)


and nobody's buying the album based off what i'm saying in this thread lollll.. so u can quit with the "hustler" talk and take what i'm saying at face value instead of overthinking it.



my primary point is about how we listen to music.. not about the quality of hibernation shivers.

I appreciate the candor.  We've always been real with each other.  I'm just not sure why you have this notion that I (or anyone here) wouldn't want someone from the boards to succeed or for RBX to have a great album?  There's nothing more in the world i would like than to have one of the original Death Row Inmates that i used to listen to in the 90's come back and drop a huge dope album and blow up.  And to have someone produce it that i've talked to and interacted with?  Why wouldn't I want that?  I'm not sure why you think that because someone in here produced it instead of someone we don't even know would somehow taint our enjoyment of the album. 

Anyway, nothing personal, just didn't care for it.  Like i said, production quality was good, sounded crisp.  Your team did a good job on that. 
 

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Any info about "The G-Funkers"?

Who were the G-Funkers?  I hadn't heard this before?  Was it a group Warren G was putting together?
 

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I appreciate the candor.  We've always been real with each other.  I'm just not sure why you have this notion that I (or anyone here) wouldn't want someone from the boards to succeed or for RBX to have a great album?  There's nothing more in the world i would like than to have one of the original Death Row Inmates that i used to listen to in the 90's come back and drop a huge dope album and blow up.  And to have someone produce it that i've talked to and interacted with?  Why wouldn't I want that?  I'm not sure why you think that because someone in here produced it instead of someone we don't even know would somehow taint our enjoyment of the album. 

Anyway, nothing personal, just didn't care for it.  Like i said, production quality was good, sounded crisp.  Your team did a good job on that.


because most people are envious haters

perhaps you are an exception ... just sometimes hard to differentiate between who's who when all our interactions are via text

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because most people are envious haters

perhaps you are an exception ... just sometimes hard to differentiate between who's who when all our interactions are via text

Yeah, i don't get down like that at all.  Your success or lack thereof doesn't affect my personal life in the least.  There would be zero personal gain or motivation for me to intentionally stop you from reaching your dreams or becoming successful.  Dunno why anyone else would care either. 

I've given huge props to DOP Funk and Laidback Sounds, both whom i've interacted with.  They make amazing music and I truly hope they get big and blow up.  I listen to their stuff more than anything else out there right now.  So trust me, it's nothing more than my honest opinion if I like the music or not, no alterior motives at all. 
 
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