SUGE: "Snoop can't run Death Row. Dogg Pound flopped. Missionary came and went."

[Sccit]

[.:Hercy Buggz:.]

He ain't wrong, Snoop is a bad CEO and doesn't know how to market his artists and even pick the right songs for his own project. The only reason why October London is successful is because he has his own team. Latoiya Williams could have been as big as Mary J, but he fucked that up.

[WCThang]

Unrealistic to think DPG & Snoop are selling records in 2025.

I'm thrilled that Snoop is using Death Row to put out new projects by DPG, Eastsidaz, etc. in 2025.

[BJV]

Whereas Too Gangsta For The Radio, Dysfunktional Family OST and Crooked I’s debut album all topped the billboard charts and will go down in history as some of the most groundbreaking hiphop albums of all time.

[Sccit]

Whereas Too Gangsta For The Radio, Dysfunktional Family OST and Crooked I’s debut album all topped the billboard charts and will go down in history as some of the most groundbreaking hiphop albums of all time.

suge was in jail at the time


also ... those weren't household names like snoop and dogg pound when they dropped

[soopa-man]

When Suge was out he didn’t get anything released on death row outside of the Dysfunktional OSt it had major artist on their too with Jay and Ja & Ashanti on it at the time.  And people were buying cds back then.

No one buys music or cds just collectors, Universal laid off half of their employees major execs like Kevin Liles gone it aint the same …
Loved to agree with Suge but he so institutionalized from his time he is more trapped in 1996 than I am.  He hasn’t grown in any way or had any accountability conversations with himself. He fumbled that label. He fumbled Dre period.

He filed for bankruptcy and got the cases that piled up, it’s sad to see or hear dude snitch on everyone, Dre paid to kill me .. he was the one saying he wouldn’t snitch on PACs killer back in the day.

He is hurt he isn’t part of the maturity of the people he helped create and truthfully spent more time destroying than now.  Death row at its prime and best was 1995. 1996 peaked and also died and 1997 was the last time it was on the charts, legit with new music that wasn’t branding old music as new.

He used PAC name as a crutch to lean on cuz he was with PAC when he died.  First he says PAC hated Snoop, then he says that he and PAC thought it wasn’t weird he wasn’t In Vegas at 662 or the Fight with him.

But the labels and music business are different and non existent he didn’t buy Death Row to revive though he low key has at this industry standard. He is releasing music from the homies he has.


Snoop bougjt more control of the music from his legacy and his hey day and hard work. Shit that’s flex he owns what he built. He doesn’t own PAC music that’s for sale, or Dre’s he owns his and the small pieces that are left around after that.

No one cares about Old Death Row or new Death Row any more.. the time has gone people have moved on even Pac compilations have ceased … Snoop trying to carry a new album and promote it and that only is not going to happen he is too big to even sit has ass down to focus on one thing…


Kendrick is the hottest artist in the world right now.  He is everywhere his sales ain’t even diabolical in the millions right now.  Eminem hasn’t sold the same as he used to in like 3 albums ago already he is the highest selling dude in hip hop outside of Drake


There is no business in the music business like that any more. Comparing now to 1995 is apples and oranges now.

[Mat]

Suge is just a bitter Snitch

[abusive]

I've been hearing the word snitch thrown around alot lately concerning Suge. He is speaking on alot of topics but the thing is everything is already out there. The Dre having a hit on Suge thing was brought to him by Russell Poole and is already known by law enforcement and the judicial system. The same for Snoop's alleged involvement in 2pac's murder.

As far as the topic goes, it's true what he said. The only thing DR has accomplished is getting revenge on Suge. Until they break a new artist and/or drop a hit record, that's all I'll see it as.

[Sccit]

When Suge was out he didn’t get anything released on death row outside of the Dysfunktional OSt it had major artist on their too with Jay and Ja & Ashanti on it at the time.  And people were buying cds back then.

No one buys music or cds just collectors, Universal laid off half of their employees major execs like Kevin Liles gone it aint the same …
Loved to agree with Suge but he so institutionalized from his time he is more trapped in 1996 than I am.  He hasn’t grown in any way or had any accountability conversations with himself. He fumbled that label. He fumbled Dre period.

He filed for bankruptcy and got the cases that piled up, it’s sad to see or hear dude snitch on everyone, Dre paid to kill me .. he was the one saying he wouldn’t snitch on PACs killer back in the day.

He is hurt he isn’t part of the maturity of the people he helped create and truthfully spent more time destroying than now.  Death row at its prime and best was 1995. 1996 peaked and also died and 1997 was the last time it was on the charts, legit with new music that wasn’t branding old music as new.

He used PAC name as a crutch to lean on cuz he was with PAC when he died.  First he says PAC hated Snoop, then he says that he and PAC thought it wasn’t weird he wasn’t In Vegas at 662 or the Fight with him.

But the labels and music business are different and non existent he didn’t buy Death Row to revive though he low key has at this industry standard. He is releasing music from the homies he has.


Snoop bougjt more control of the music from his legacy and his hey day and hard work. Shit that’s flex he owns what he built. He doesn’t own PAC music that’s for sale, or Dre’s he owns his and the small pieces that are left around after that.

No one cares about Old Death Row or new Death Row any more.. the time has gone people have moved on even Pac compilations have ceased … Snoop trying to carry a new album and promote it and that only is not going to happen he is too big to even sit has ass down to focus on one thing…


Kendrick is the hottest artist in the world right now.  He is everywhere his sales ain’t even diabolical in the millions right now.  Eminem hasn’t sold the same as he used to in like 3 albums ago already he is the highest selling dude in hip hop outside of Drake


There is no business in the music business like that any more. Comparing now to 1995 is apples and oranges now.

eminem still going platinum

[TraceOneInfinite]

Whereas Too Gangsta For The Radio, Dysfunktional Family OST and Crooked I’s debut album all topped the billboard charts and will go down in history as some of the most groundbreaking hiphop albums of all time.

lol, yeah that was what I was thinking as well.  And Suge was out for some time and he couldn’t get shit going, he couldn’t get Crooked I released, Against the Grain and Dysfunctional Family were awful, he maybe had a chance with Left Eye but she tragically died. 

Bottom line… shit just don’t sound as good when Dre isn’t in the building, does it Suge?   Now…. Pac was so amazing that he had Suge feeling in 96 like he could do it without Dre, and Pac proved he could do it without Dre but Pac was a once in a lifetime talent. 

[WCThang]

We are very fortunate Snoop bought Death Row

[heyyou]

It was Suge that destroyed Death Row with his mafioso antics and bringing it to the studio/work where the music was being made.
RBX and The D.O.C. who were a huge input of the success to the early days of Death Row left because of the bullshit, then eventually Dre left for the ame reason.
I mean, beating up producers etc and the tape reel guy because he didn't rewind the tape to the exact spot? WTF?

[gfunk2024]

I'm not sure how much credit you can give Suge for the original success of DR. I don't think it is fair to say that he shouldn't receive any credit, but I think he is deserving of 25% or less.

Dre was the guy with the ear for the music and he brought Snoop, dpg, rage, nate, rbx. All the albums up to All eyez on me are all thanks to these artists. Suge really had nothing to do with them. Suge brought some people like OFTB that were very mediocre.

If anything you can say that suge stopped DR from being even more successful because he didn't sign Warren G. Imagine if Regulate dropped on DR.

Yes, Pac was a huge signing. How much of that was really due to Suge though? It isn't like Suge discovered Pac. And it isn't like Suge was really executive producing Pac's music. The success of Pac's music should be credited to Pac and not suge.

Suge pulled some mafioso type shit to get things done in the industry, but that's about it. He is way overrated by some people when they say how much DR success should be credited to suge.

[sweetdudejim]

Suge is a total joke. However new Death Row releases are doing, Snoop is doing something that Suge had trouble doing after the year 2000....that being RELEASING NEW MUSIC. For all the talk Suge has, he never released a Crooked I album, couldn't get a Kurupt album released during his actual time on the label, and depended on albums from Snoop, Tupac and Tha Dogg Pound post 2000 to even keep the label in the news. Not to mention his pathetic compilation albums that featured Tupac and Snoop soundalikes. The man seemingly knows nothing about art and is basically the epitome of a jilted girlfriend who can't shut up about her old boyfriend who likely never even thinks about her.

Obviously it seems that Snoop's album probably didn't perform commercially how Dre and Snoop hoped it would, but it's actual art that they put out into the world, unlike the hate and bullshit that Suge that constantly throws out there. Honestly, as much of a joke and self parody that I think Daz is these days, he towers above Suge, because he's an actual artist that contributes something to the world. Seriously, what does Suge Knight contribute besides bad vibes and hate?

suge was in jail at the time


also ... those weren't household names like snoop and dogg pound when they dropped

Suge wasn't in jail for Dysfunktional Family. And if Suge was the big time businessman he claims, why couldn't find new artists that would top the charts? Why couldn't he release seemingly completed albums by artists by Crooked I and Kurupt? Why couldn't he move on from Snoop and had to find a soundalike for him? Why couldn't he hardly get music out there by any active Death Row artist? Was it all legal? Or was it possible that he was too afraid to actually put something out there by one of his artists, because he knew it would look pathetic up against Aftermath and others?

Honestly, in terms of big time hip-hop characters, besides Puff Daddy is there anybody more pathetic than Suge Knight? What a sad little man.

I'm not sure how much credit you can give Suge for the original success of DR. I don't think it is fair to say that he shouldn't receive any credit, but I think he is deserving of 25% or less.

Dre was the guy with the ear for the music and he brought Snoop, dpg, rage, nate, rbx. All the albums up to All eyez on me are all thanks to these artists. Suge really had nothing to do with them. Suge brought some people like OFTB that were very mediocre.

If anything you can say that suge stopped DR from being even more successful because he didn't sign Warren G. Imagine if Regulate dropped on DR.

Yes, Pac was a huge signing. How much of that was really due to Suge though? It isn't like Suge discovered Pac. And it isn't like Suge was really executive producing Pac's music. The success of Pac's music should be credited to Pac and not suge. D

Suge pulled some mafioso type shit to get things done in the industry, but that's about it. He is way overrated by some people when they say how much DR success should be credited to suge.

He gets credit for signing him. From what I wrote above, it's obvious that I think he's a pretty horrible dude, but he did get Tupac on the label, and that counts for something. He got him on the label and released All Eyez on Me. Can't argue with that.

Now on the other hand, it sounds like that signing hastened the departure of Dr. Dre, who in my opinion would've been much more instrumental to future Death Row success than Tupac even if Tupac hadn't been senselessly murdered. Now perhaps Dre was gonna leave the label either way even if Tupac didn't show up, but it couldn't have helped.

And absolutely you're right that Dre bought the actual real talent to the table. Who did Suge bring in besides Tupac (who obviously was already a highly established artist pre-Death Row)? Crooked I? If so, very cool, but also never released an album on the label, so who gives a flying fuck? Left Eye? First off, once again, already established. Secondly, I even in the early 2000s, I don't think you probably could've found 200 people looking out for a solo album by the TLC rapper. Not 2 million, not 200,000, not even 2,000. Two. Hundred. Nobody gave a shit. Or how's about that sweet signing of Petey Pablo. Was Suge joking with that one? HAHAHAHA!

Let's face it. Suge has always been a joke. A very violent, disgusting, hateful joke.

[Sccit]

 It isn't like Suge discovered Pac. And it isn't like Suge was really executive producing Pac's music.

 


that's exactly what he was doing