Jay-Z "Ride Or Die" - Dis to ???

[Lord Funk]

Just gave Hard Knock Life a blast this morning, and was wondering - who is this track dissing?

My guess has always been Mase, especially based on the line "Check your own videos, you'll always be number two", but does anyone know different?

[Don Breezio]

i dont think he ever had any beef with mase...im not sure who thats dissing actually but thats one of my favorite jay-z songs.

[Lord Funk]

From OHHLA...

I bruise wack rap niggaz severely punish them
Especially those that get fucked for they publishing, heh
Always gotta be the weakest nigga out the crew
I probably make more money off yo' album, than you
You see the respect I get everytime I come through
Check your own videos, you'll always be number two
Niggaz talkin real greasy on them R&B records
but I'm platinum a million times nigga, check the credits
S. Carter, ghost writer, and for the right price
I can even make YO' shit tighter
I roast niggaz like ya, smoke niggaz like ya
Take your little jewels and put the toast to niggaz like ya

Lines in bold are the ones that always brought Mase to mind... it's so personal he must be talking about someone well-known in the rap game IMO.

[Don Breezio]

But see those lines could be referring to any number of rappers...none of them apply to mase and noone else...

[Jome]

Especially those that get fucked for they publishing, heh
I probably make more money off yo' album, than you

Nas got fucked for his publishing.. fact.

Check your own videos, you'll always be number two
Niggaz talkin real greasy on them R&B records

Nas did "Did you ever think remix" with R.Kelly in '98, the same year Hard Knock Life came out.
The track was coo, but the video was cheesy, imo.


The rest of the lyrics could be anybody..

And I guess Ma$e could be inserted with Nas, and it would look the same.
Diddy probably had his hands way down his pockets.. and he was a typical
r'n'b-cameo kinda dude, imo.

[Lord Funk]

The reason the check your own videos line made me think of Mase was because of his video (forget which one) where he and Puffy were in basketball vests - Puffy was '1' and Mase was '2'. I remembered at the time people said Puffy was putting Mase down in his own vid.

[The Watcher]

Dre got fucked for his publishin' by Ruthless, and Jay-Z did some ghost writin' for him .. that could be about Dre just as easy as it is Mase, probably neither of them

[Lord Funk]

From Launch a coupla years back...

(12/14/00, 1 p.m. ET) - Mase may have retired from hip-hop in 1999, but that didn't stop the Harlem rapper and his friends from being dissed by Jay-Z on a song from Memphis Bleek's new album, The Understanding.

On the remix for " My Mind Right," Jay-Z threatens either Mase or members of Mase's offshoot group, Harlem World. Mase left show business to enroll in college in Atlanta. Some of Jay-Z's lyrics include: " It ain't about Brooklyn or Harlem/no more than it's about fame or stardom/it's about me being on blocks you barred from."

Jay-Z and Mase have had a long-running rivalry, and members of Harlem World made what is suspected to be a backhanded diss to Jay-Z on Dame Grease's Live On Lenox album, which was released earlier this year.


I'm just interested - seems no one knows about this and I've never heard it mentioned apart from here and The Source's review of Jay's album, which mentioned that Ride Or Die disses a "Harlem cat".

[Darksider]

From Launch a coupla years back...

(12/14/00, 1 p.m. ET) - Mase may have retired from hip-hop in 1999, but that didn't stop the Harlem rapper and his friends from being dissed by Jay-Z on a song from Memphis Bleek's new album, The Understanding.

On the remix for " My Mind Right," Jay-Z threatens either Mase or members of Mase's offshoot group, Harlem World. Mase left show business to enroll in college in Atlanta. Some of Jay-Z's lyrics include: " It ain't about Brooklyn or Harlem/no more than it's about fame or stardom/it's about me being on blocks you barred from."

Jay-Z and Mase have had a long-running rivalry, and members of Harlem World made what is suspected to be a backhanded diss to Jay-Z on Dame Grease's Live On Lenox album, which was released earlier this year.


I'm just interested - seems no one knows about this and I've never heard it mentioned apart from here and The Source's review of Jay's album, which mentioned that Ride Or Die disses a "Harlem cat".

interesting

[eS El Duque]

Dre got fucked for his publishin' by Ruthless, and Jay-Z did some ghost writin' for him .. that could be about Dre just as easy as it is Mase, probably neither of them

heh...but why Dre???

[The Watcher]

Dre got fucked for his publishin' by Ruthless, and Jay-Z did some ghost writin' for him .. that could be about Dre just as easy as it is Mase, probably neither of them

heh...but why Dre???

why not Dre???

i was just sayin it could be just about anyone