Brazil 2 - 0 Germany - Your thoughts

[Jay ay Beee]

I totally agree with you. And Brazil had the second, probably.

Nah, check France's in '98

Saudi Arabia (these guys annoy me they're so shit)
South Africa
Denmark
Paraguay
Italy (the only big team - but you weren't at your best)
Croatia

That was easier than

Turkey
Costa Rica
China
Belgium
England
Turkey

Cause Turkey are fucking good - they will beat England at least once in qualifying

Turkey aren't Senegal or S.Korea


I sort of agree with you on your main point

But Holland did not deserve to be in it

If you have Haisselbank, Kluivert, RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII, Bergkamp, up front, and you can't beat a team with Breen, Staunton, Cunningham etc. in defence (Ireland), you don't deserve to be in the World Cup.  Van Gaal's fault.

[gFuNkA]

I wanted to see you "great team"

we dont have a great team...we have a closed team.
i think we will come with a great team 2006.

[Juice]

we dont have a great team...we have a closed team.
i think we will come with a great team 2006.

I hope so for your team. Cause i doubt Argentina, Italy, Portugal and France will be eliminated after 3-4 games in Germany too!

[Juice]

Italy (the only big team - but you weren't at your best)

Yeah, fucked up game! OUT ON PENALTIES ONCE AGAIN!!!! Damn! With Baggio missing that golden goal in the extra time!!

And with France "robbing" (this time in the positive way of the word) the final of the European Cup of 2 years ago too!

[Jay ay Beee]

Ballack and Kahn are World Class players, no doubt

I'm not saying it was EASY, I'm saying you had an easier draw than any team ever.

But you've got nothing to be sad about either.  Cause nobody expected you to do anything in the tournament so you should be happy that you put on a good show in the final.

[Juice]

But you've got nothing to be sad about either.  Cause nobody expected you to do anything in the tournament so you should be happy that you put on a good show in the final.

Yeah, even if i've never seen a team playing in a final not doing it. Except for Brazil in 1998.

[Joachim]

If you have Haisselbank, Kluivert, RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII, Bergkamp, up front, and you can't beat a team with Breen, Staunton, Cunningham etc. in defence (Ireland), you don't deserve to be in the World Cup.  Van Gaal's fault.

Bergkamp retired after Euro 2000, and funnily enough Holland couldnt qualify after he left lol

[gFuNkA]

Great game, a nice way to end the tournament, Germany played briliantly, just they didnt have anyone who could finish the ball (except Neuville but Roberto Carlos played him out), i would have prefered to see Bierhoff start, whereas Brazil did in Ronaldo who played a blinder, this was the defining factor for me.

Also i was impressed by Kleberson, his passing was poor but everything else about him looked good, one for the future.

Props to Brazil for a great tournament.

[gFuNkA]

I'm not saying it was EASY, I'm saying you had an easier draw than any team ever.

But you've got nothing to be sad about either.  Cause nobody expected you to do anything in the tournament so you should be happy that you put on a good show in the final.

we got the easiest draw but nobody expected us to do anything in the tournament?  

[Juice]

we got the easiest draw but nobody expected us to do anything in the tournament?  

Exactly like Korea, Senegal, USA, Mexico, Turkey, Sweden, Denmark, EIRE, etc..

Oh.. and to tell you the truth, nobody said Brazil was in the top4 before the start of the competition cause they really risked to not qualify. Just like your team after you lost 5-0 with England.

[gFuNkA]

damn, then we are the surprising team #1 this wc...nobody gave a fuck about us and we end up in the final...whoa

[Juice]

damn, then we are the surprising team #1 this wc...nobody gave a fuck about us and we end up in the final...whoa

For sure you are! That's the only reason why your team deserves props.
But not because of your style of play, not because of the fact you faced (and won against) the best teams of the World and not because you got world class players (except for Kahn, the GK).

[Jay ay Beee]

we got the easiest draw but nobody expected us to do anything in the tournament?  

Seriously man, don't be idiotic

People expected you to encounter Italy, Spain, Portugal etc.

I was really talking about 10 months ago when you lost 5 - 1

The mood of the German nation was that you were crap and would do nothing in the World Cup


Damn Joachim I guess I was wrong

They still have themselves to blame

[Juice]

I still insist with Brazil. People expected them to face Argentina, France, England, Uruguay, Nigeria. And Italy or Spain in the final.

That's why even Brazilians didnt even try to dream about a final!

But they just faced England.

And China, Costa Rica, etc..

[gFuNkA]

Seriously man, don't be idiotic

People expected you to encounter Italy, Spain, Portugal etc.

I was really talking about 10 months ago when you lost 5 - 1

The mood of the German nation was that you were crap and would do nothing in the World Cup


Damn Joachim I guess I was wrong

They still have themselves to blame

there is only ONE man in england who knows it right...

ten month ago was another thing....has nothing to do with this wc