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The White Population of London is Rapidly Declining
« on: December 06, 2003, 01:27:52 PM »
What do you Europeans think of this?



Big Decline In White
Population Of London
By Roger Blitz
UK Affairs Editor
The Financial Times - UK
12-1-3

London's white population fell by 7 per cent during the 1990s, a greater decline than expected, according to new studies of the 2001 Census that illustrate the increasing diversity of the capital. Advertisement
 
While ethnic groups experienced strong growth trends, contributing to an overall London population increase of 4 per cent, or 282,143, the white population fell by 390,000.
 
In 1991, whites comprised 79.8 per cent of all Londoners. The new findings suggest that proportion has fallen to 71.2 per cent.
 
Most striking has been the rise of the black African population, putting it on course to overtake Indians this decade as the biggest ethnic group in the capital after whites. Its growth was the largest, least predicted among London's ethnic groups, overtaking the number of black Caribbeans by more than doubling from 163,635 to a projected 378,933.
 
The data from the Greater London Authority shows the non-white population of London at more than 2m for the first time, having stood at slightly over 1.3m in 1991. Added to that are 220,000 Irish and nearly 595,000 "other white" groups, such as Cypriots, Americans and Europeans born on the Continent.
 
Redmond O'Neill, senior adviser to Ken Livingstone, London mayor, said the policy implications for London public services, such as policing and education, were considerable. "As the whole principle of public services is that you are policed by your peers, this will require an effort to ensure that public services are representative, and therefore acceptable and legitimate to the populations they serve," he said.
 
A Mori poll found that 83 per cent of Londoners believed the Metropolitan Police, which has only 6 per cent of officers from ethnic minorities, should reflect London's ethnic diversity.
 
New census information on religion underscores the diversity of the capital's residents but also reveals a high proportion of non-believers. More than a million Londoners, just under 16 per cent, said they had no religion and more than 621,000 did not reply to the census question on religion.
 
London's largest non-white population is Indian, projected at 436,993, but its rise of 22 per cent over the decade, or just over 80,000, is the lowest of all non-white ethnic groups other than black Caribbean, which increased by 14 per cent.
 
The birthplace with the largest increase is Nigeria, followed by Bangladesh, South Africa and Sri Lanka. Kenya and Somalia also have growing London populations. But increases have come from far and wide - the South American population nearly trebled over the 1990s to just under 45,000, while the number of EU-born Londoners from outside the UK and Ireland swelled by 64,000 or 43 per cent.
 
Smaller-sized ethnic groups had significant increases, based on predicted population growth.
 
The number of Bangladeshis in London grew by nearly three-quarters, Pakistanis by more than a half, and a younger ethnic group classified as "black other" almost doubled.
 
Christians make up 58 per cent of London's population, compared with 72 per cent across England and Wales, followed by Muslims, with 8.5 per cent, or over 607,000. There are 292,000 Hindus in London, or 4 per cent of the capital, followed by nearly 150,000 Jews, or 2.1 per cent, and 104,000 Sikhs.
 
London's white British population is concentrated in the outer parts of south and east London, in contrast with much of inner London. The main strongholds of white British London are in the boroughs of Havering, Bexley and Bromley.
 
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Re:The White Population of London is Rapidly Declining
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2003, 02:54:09 PM »
ohh quick get scared.. the blacks are invading here too  ::)
 

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Re:The White Population of London is Rapidly Declining
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2003, 05:42:23 PM »
hey the white populate in in ozone park rapidly decreased now its all indian,  arab,  an columbian an the neighborhood is a shit hole now.  
 

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Re:The White Population of London is Rapidly Declining
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2003, 10:16:05 PM »
hey the white populate in in ozone park rapidly decreased now its all indian,  arab,  an columbian an the neighborhood is a shit hole now.  

Tom, I pitty you. You don't see past color, it's all good, the economy in the Inland Empire crashed in the late 80's, which was also when blacks and latinos took over as the majority here. Was that the reason, no, it's because jobs were lost, many jobs actually. In the 90's we had the highest crime rate of any city, and we were in the top crime rates of the world, comparing to some parts of Africa. Was it color, no, it was the economy stupit. And London is going through what big cities around the world are going through. As the world becomes smaller, the large cities become a more diverse place, as each big city enters the world market. Pretty cool huh, London will be like New York, Chicago, Miami, Dallas or Los Angeles. And each city has more good areas than bad, mainly the bad areas are because in capitalism, someone much be poor so others can be rich. It's that simple. Life is beyond colors.
 

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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2003, 10:18:40 PM »
Sorry C-Walker not everyone is scared of minorities.

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Unfortunately, most hip-hop artists gravitated towards the path of least resistance by relying on these pre-set patches. As a result, electric guitar and real musicians became devalued, and a lot of hip-hop now sounds the same.

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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2003, 11:27:29 PM »
hey the white populate in in ozone park rapidly decreased now its all indian,  arab,  an columbian an the neighborhood is a shit hole now.  

Tom, I pitty you. You don't see past color, it's all good, the economy in the Inland Empire crashed in the late 80's, which was also when blacks and latinos took over as the majority here. Was that the reason, no, it's because jobs were lost, many jobs actually. In the 90's we had the highest crime rate of any city, and we were in the top crime rates of the world, comparing to some parts of Africa. Was it color, no, it was the economy stupit. And London is going through what big cities around the world are going through. As the world becomes smaller, the large cities become a more diverse place, as each big city enters the world market. Pretty cool huh, London will be like New York, Chicago, Miami, Dallas or Los Angeles. And each city has more good areas than bad, mainly the bad areas are because in capitalism, someone much be poor so others can be rich. It's that simple. Life is beyond colors.
ozone park is a different story than inland empire.  The biggest thing was turing one family homes into illeagle boarding houses.  ozone park had nothing to do with economic issues or crime.  b/c as a matter of fact when the neighborhood was white the crime rate was higher.  an you pity me.  look at yourself.  you blame the white man  for all the minorities.  everything a minority does wrong can be traced back  to the white man.  its alright for a minority to hate the white man but if a white man hates a minority ur a racist.  fuck that m-dogg.  get outta here with ur self rightous bull shit.
 

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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2003, 07:49:15 AM »
you blame the white man  for all the minorities.  everything a minority does wrong can be traced back  to the white man.  its alright for a minority to hate the white man but if a white man hates a minority ur a racist.  fuck that m-dogg.  get outta here with ur self rightous bull shit.

yea i've believed this for a while when a white person does something that could be percieved as racist (no matter if it is or not) there is a huge fuss kicked up. but if you listen to black music or tv white people are constyantly being clowned/insulted, and no fuss is kicked up. similar thing if a white man gets into a fight with someone of ethnic minority and wins its a racist attack if the outcome is different you won't hear racist being pinned on the minority.

iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
 

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Re:The White Population of London is Rapidly Declining
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2003, 08:13:27 AM »
Ethnic minorities have been coming too London for hundreds of years now, its nothing new, in fact its one of the things that makes London a great place too live, if you cant see past skin colour, then you may aswell avoid London althogether cos there aren't many (if any) more diverse cities on Earth.
 

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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2003, 08:21:47 AM »
Speaking on what Don Rizzle brought up.

The media is seriously fucked. There is little mention on attacks by Asians on white people, but if the roles are reversed its everywhere.
 

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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2003, 08:41:55 AM »
Honestly, I agree totally with Malcolm X on this subject, we as people of color must have self-control over ourselves. We have to better ourselves if we want things to get better, and we can't wait for the white man to do it for us, because it will never happen. It's our situation, and no one else can help us. We need to educate ourselves, (more latino and black males are in jail than in college) we need to better dress ourselves (I know thugs are what everyone is trying to dress like, but on the real, who's going to hire a thug, especially a black thug) and we need to do this ourselves. Institutinal racism exist, with ethic minorities getting beat to death still, slamed on cars, and this is the very little that gets put on tape. It's real, but only we can over come it, blaming white people does nothing for our cause.
 

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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2003, 12:16:55 PM »
So the fact that the number of white people is declining in our very own countries is a good thing? What the hell kind of racist thinking is that? Seriously, bigots like M Dogg and Joachim really get me. White people are supposed to "celebrate" diversity....i.e. celebrate the fact that they are becoming minorities in their own countries.  

What if a report came out that said the number of Japanese people living in Tokyo was rapidly falling. Would that be a good thing? Do you think the Japanese would celebrate that fact? What if the number of Muslims living in Cairo or Mecca was rapidly declining? Do you think Arabs would get together and talk about how great it is that they are becoming a minority in their own land??

LOL, you idiots really make me laugh.
 

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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2003, 12:23:24 PM »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/607623.stm

Street Crime Surges In London

A huge surge in muggings, amid a worrying rise in violent crime, have been revealed in Home Office statistics.

The figures for recorded offences, a blow to the government's anti-crime crusade, show the first rise in England and Wales for six years.

The number of robberies - most of them muggings - increased by 19% in the year to September 1999 compared with a fall of nearly 6% over the previous 12 months.

Overall, police in England and Wales recorded a total of 5.2 million offences in the year to September 1999 - an increase of 2.2%.

'Hard reality'

Home Secretary Jack Straw acknowledged the increase, but said the figures showed "a dramatic variation in crime rates across the country".

 Jack Straw: Variation in crime rates across country
 
But Fred Broughton, chairman of the Police Federation of England and Wales, immediately demanded more cash to deal with a situation which he said was "nothing short of alarming".

He said: "The figures are the hard reality of fewer police, underfunding and big increases in workloads."

The home office figures showed that the biggest rise in crime was recorded by the City of London force, which saw a 22% rise, followed by the West Midlands force (16%) and Bedfordshire (12%).

Stop and search

In London, Britain's biggest force, the Metropolitan Police, saw its total number of offences top the million mark with a 9% rise in offences.

The city has witnessed a heated debate over stop and search tactics which have disproportionately targeted members of the black community.

  Crime figures for England and Wales 1998/99
 Violent offences: Up 5%
 Sexual offences: Up 2%
 Robberies: Up 19%
 Domestic burglary: Down 5%
 Non-domestic burglary: Down 3%
 Theft of motor vehicles: Down 2%
Stop and searches have declined following the Macpherson Report into the death of the black teenager Stephen Lawrence - which criticised the tendency to target black and Asian youths.

Some senior policemen have blamed that for an increase in street crime, and Mr Straw admitted the reluctance of officers to use stop and search powers following the report "may have been a factor" behind the rise.

He said: "It has obviously made a difference. I am aware of course that the Lawrence report did represent a deep trauma for many officers in the Metropolitan Police Service and they became very concerned indeed about whether actions on the street could be categorised as racist.

"We want to see the Metropolitan Police use those powers. I think we will see, after the shock to the service in the past year as a result of the Lawrence report, an improvement in their work on the streets."

The figures released on Tuesday are broken down into divisional areas of police forces for the first time.

They show a variable picture of the ability of forces to tackle crime, with Lancashire showing the biggest drop in offences with 11%.

Rapes increase sharply

The rise in violent crime, which includes attacks, sex offences and robbery, is the largest since 1995/1996, when attacks increased by 10%.

 John Stevens: Meeting Mr Blair
 
Paul Wiles, director of Research, Development and Statistics at the home office, said the overall increase in crime was caused by the rises recorded by just two forces, the Metropolitan Police and the West Midlands force, which saw a combined rise in offences of 129,000, larger than the overall increase across England and Wales of 115,000.

But he said both these forces had been affected particularly by a new system for recording crime.

The report said two-thirds of the increased robberies had taken place in just four forces: the Met, West Midlands, Greater Manchester and West Yorkshire.

Increased wealth

But West Yorkshire - along with Northumbria - was one of just two metropolitan forces where crime fell.


People will be quite right to demand an urgent explanation from the Home Secretary as to why we are less and less safe on our streets
 
Ann Widdecombe  
Research published by the home office last year suggested Britain was on the brink of a sharp rise in crime, partly due to increased personal wealth.

Most offences are committed by men aged under 24, while the 1980s baby boom also contributed to warnings of imminent problems.

Publication of the crime figures coincided with the first meeting between Prime Minister Tony Blair and the incoming Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, John Stevens.

Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman Simon Hughes said the figures gave the government "a clear warning" that police chiefs need increased resources.

Shadow home secretary Ann Widdecombe said: "People will be quite right to demand an urgent explanation from the Home Secretary as to why we are less and less safe on our streets and in our homes under the party who promised to be tough on crime."

Crime figures for Scotland will be published in March or April.
 

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Re:The White Population of London is Rapidly Declining
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2003, 01:00:05 PM »
So the fact that the number of white people is declining in our very own countries is a good thing? What the hell kind of racist thinking is that? Seriously, bigots like M Dogg and Joachim really get me. White people are supposed to "celebrate" diversity....i.e. celebrate the fact that they are becoming minorities in their own countries.  

What if a report came out that said the number of Japanese people living in Tokyo was rapidly falling. Would that be a good thing? Do you think the Japanese would celebrate that fact? What if the number of Muslims living in Cairo or Mecca was rapidly declining? Do you think Arabs would get together and talk about how great it is that they are becoming a minority in their own land??

LOL, you idiots really make me laugh.

ROFL at getting called a bigot by the Imperial Grand Wizard himself.  
 

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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2003, 01:11:25 PM »
So the fact that the number of white people is declining in our very own countries is a good thing? What the hell kind of racist thinking is that? Seriously, bigots like M Dogg and Joachim really get me. White people are supposed to "celebrate" diversity....i.e. celebrate the fact that they are becoming minorities in their own countries.  

What if a report came out that said the number of Japanese people living in Tokyo was rapidly falling. Would that be a good thing? Do you think the Japanese would celebrate that fact? What if the number of Muslims living in Cairo or Mecca was rapidly declining? Do you think Arabs would get together and talk about how great it is that they are becoming a minority in their own land??

LOL, you idiots really make me laugh.

Pretty much on point, well put.
 

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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2003, 01:23:08 PM »
So the fact that the number of white people is declining in our very own countries is a good thing? What the hell kind of racist thinking is that? Seriously, bigots like M Dogg and Joachim really get me. White people are supposed to "celebrate" diversity....i.e. celebrate the fact that they are becoming minorities in their own countries.  

What if a report came out that said the number of Japanese people living in Tokyo was rapidly falling. Would that be a good thing? Do you think the Japanese would celebrate that fact? What if the number of Muslims living in Cairo or Mecca was rapidly declining? Do you think Arabs would get together and talk about how great it is that they are becoming a minority in their own land??

LOL, you idiots really make me laugh.

Look at my avatar. What ethnicity am I. Muthaphukka, I'm Native and Mexican, and I live by L.A. which used to be Mexico, and is one of the most diverse places in the planet. Mexico City is full of Spanish, Portigals, Muslim, and other ethnic groups. That is a good thing. The world is getting smaller. And why do people think non white people make crimes. Even Tom admitted his area had more crime when it was all white. Try looking past color in terms of crime, and you will realize there is more than just a color. Oh, and Japan I think is behind in what they do. They still explote their Korean minority, and made many laws against non Japanese people. That in it's self is wrong, but then again you don't hear me praising Japan do you. Mexico on the other hand, has many, many brown people, but we celebrat our white people too, and other aspects of our history. The Irish that fought for us against the United States are heros. Latin America in general is a very diverse place, with many Europeans and people of African backgrounds, and we celebrat many things. Diversity is not to be feared, because diversity is the future. (can't wait until CWalker's daughter brings home a black man... lol)