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Re:Saddam captured?
« Reply #120 on: December 17, 2003, 10:23:19 PM »
Just take their country? We don't want the country, we want the oil. That's my whole point, and you just proved me correct by saying that "we're not taking the whole country". LOL.

Then we'd take the oil!  I don't see any u.s. flags on the Oil Rigs over there.  Grow up, your rebellion against the United States puts you in a category of socialists.


well to represent a neutral and peaceful nation america would never do that, its all in the slow background process by hiding shit from the world....i aint hating and shit but its all undercover stuff, otherwise usa would be considered as a stealer in everyones eyes
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Re:Saddam captured?
« Reply #121 on: December 17, 2003, 10:35:49 PM »
First, Rumsfeld never said that there were WMD that could be identified in 45 minutes.  UNFORTUNATELY, the media led you to believe he said that. IF YOU WOULD HAVE WATCHED the actual comments, than maybe you could make an intelligent comment here.  I imagine you copied and pasted that from some fucking anti-capitalism board you visit or something, or maybe the Afgan to English translation fucked up, but what Rumsfeld said, was that Iraq had weapons that could be DEPLOYED in 45 minutes or less.  Do you understand the difference there?

OK POINT MADE. I MISINTERPRETATED INFORMATION. NOW LET US OBSERVE TRAUMA GO ON AND ON ABOUT THIS ONE OF MANY POINTS I BROUGHT UP.

Here, I'll walk you through it.  See, IDENTIFIED means that they could be found, and labeled as wmd in 45 minutes.  That would be quite impossible, wouldn't it?  I mean, I know we have a kick-ass army, but I don't think even Hillary would want the army to find the WMD in 45 minutes.  DEPLOYED, on the other hand, means that the WMD could be set up, and USED in less than 45 minutes.  You know, kind of like your little arab buddies running around in the desert shooting grenades at Jumbo Jets.  Fast shit like that.

I UNDERSTAND THE DISTINCTION. THANK YOU.

Now, even though your ENTIRE FUCKING PREMISE is without merit, becuase Rumsfeld never said that, i'll imagine that you meant where are the WMD that Rumsfeld said EXISTED.  We'll just say they EXISTED.  

OK THATS GREAT. THANKS.

First off, did they exist?  Certainly.  Any intelligent person can come to that assumption, can't he?  Saddam, everybody knows, famously gassed his own people in the early 90's, and those biological weapons are known as weapons of MASS DESTRUCTION.  Therefore, yes, the weapons did exist.  Also of note, is the fact that Bill Clinton, the former president of the United States, was also of the opinion, in office, and after the war started, that Iraq had "Biological, Chemical, and Nuclear" weapons of Mass Destruction.  NUCLEAR.  This is from the mouth of President Bush's biggest distractor.  Why does he think this? Because he was the head of CIA, the FBI, and had access to the collective intelligence of not only the United States, but other countries such as England's intelligence that led to the fact that Saddam Hussein did in fact have Weapons of Mass Destruction.  Clinton even bombed Iraq over this in the late 90's.  Since you've just recently started being a zealot, you probably weren't paying attention then.

CLINTON BOMBED IRAQ IN THE LATE 80S FOR ITS OBSTRUCTION OF THE NO FLY ZONES AND ITS REFUSAL TO COMPLY WITH UN INSPECTORS. NOONE IS DENYING IRAQ HAD NUCLEAR AMBITIONS OR MAY HAVE HAD CHEMICAL OR BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS AT ONE POINT. THEY HAD CHEMICAL WEAPONS IN THE LATE 80S, AND THE IRAQIS WERE WELL ON THE WAY TO HAVING A NUKE UNTIL THE ISRAELIS BOMBED THAT REACTOR IN 1981. THE 1980-88 IRAN/IRAQ WAR TOOK ALOT OF RESOURCES AWAY FROM THE NUCLEAR PROGRAM, AND THE SUBSEQUENT GULF WAR AND UN SANCTIONS COMPLETELY DESTROYED ANY SEMBLANCE OF A NUCLEAR PROGRAM. SO NO, MY FRIEND, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER THAT SADDAM HAD A FULL FUNCTIONING NUCLEAR PROGRAM POST GULF WAR. SO IF THE US IS GOING TO WAR OVER WMD, ITS MAD AT THE FACT IRAQ WAS TRYING TO MAKE NUKE IN THE 80;S.

Not only did Bill Clinton and George Bush feel that Iraq had weapons of Mass Destruction, but the United Nations also felt that he did.  They even situated inspectors in his country for 10 years searching for them.  Saddam produced documents detailing weapons of mass destruction that he ADMITTED TO HAVING (chemical weapons) to the U.N., and the U.N. even passed 17 resolutions saying that Iraq had wmd, in violation of their peace treaty with the U.S. 17 times the U.N. said they had WMD.  

WHAT BUSH AND CLINTON FEELS MEANS NOTHING. SECOND, THE UN INSPECTORS ONLY KNEW OF A PRE EXISTING PROGRAM. UPON THE BEGINNING OF INSPECTIONS ALL THEY FOUND WAS REMNANTS AND LEFTOVERS PRE-GULF WAR. I DONT THINK YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GULF WAR, SANCTIONS, AND CONSTANT RAIDS AND SORTIES BY BRITS AND US PLANES OVER A DECADE DID TO IRAQ. THE NUKE PROGRAM COULD NOT HAVE POSSIBLE SURVIVED. NOW YOURE NOT REALLY SAYING ANYTHING. WE KNOW HE HAD WMD. BUT ON MARCH 2003 WHEN BUSH LAUNCHED THE WAR AGAINST IRAQ, THEY DIDNT HAVE ANY.

So, we've SEEN saddam use WMD, and the United States and the United Nations for 12 years has thought that Saddam had WMD.  

THIS PROVES NOTHING YOU FUCKIN RETARD. YOU ARE ATTEMPING THE "BUSH" METHOD OF ARGUING A POINT. KEEP REPEATING THE SAME BULLSHIT OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WHEN GEORGE HERBERT WALKER FUCKIN BUSH LAUNCHED THE WAR AGAINST IRAQ IN MARCH 2003, IRAQ HAD NO WEAPONS. SCOTT RITTER CONFIRMED THIS. HANS BLIX CONFIRMED THIS. MOHAMED EL BARADEI CONFIRMED THIS. THE UN NUCLEAR AGENCY CONFIRMED THIS. THE CI-FUCKIN-A CONFIRMED THIS, BUT GOT TOLD TO SHUT UP.


On the other hand; we have Tech.  Tech says Saddam doesn't.  Tech, who was chased out of Kuwait as a kid by Saddam PERSONALLY on a white horse, KNOWS THE TRUTH.  Tech knows, yes, that's right, different than the sum of the intelligence of the United Nations.  

I KNOW WHAT THE UN SAYS. AND THE UN SAYS IRAQ HAD NO WEAPONS AT THE TIME OF THE BEGINNING OF THE WAR. I AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO STRESS THIS POINT SO YOU DO NOT EFFECTIVELY HIJACK THIS THREADS PURPOSE WITH BULLSHIT ALA RUMSFELD. THE WAR AGAINST IRAQ IS NOT JUSTIFIED BECAUSE WHEN THE WAR WAS LAUNCHED SADDAM HAD NOTHING. HE WAS TELLIN THE TRUTH. YOU ARE DISTORTING WHAT THE UN SAYS. SO TRAUMA HERE, THE SEXUALLY FRUSTRATED NED FLANDERS OF WCC, KNOWS MORE THAN THE UN. WELL GO ON PROF. TRAUMA, CONTINUE WITH YOUR LECTURE,

Tech.  Come off your high horse, buddy.  YOU DO NOT KNOW more about this situation than the United Nations does! You just don't, I don't care how many times Saddam raped your mommy (By the way, don't you claim you lived in every country that the United States has a spat with?).  

OF COURSE I DONT KNOW MORE THAN THE UN KNOWS. I ONLY KNOW WHAT THEY MAKE PUBLIC TO THE SOCIETY VIA MEDIA.
I KNOW THAT THEY CONFIRMED THAT SADDAM DIDNT HAVE SHIT.
THE HEADS OF THE FUCKIN NUCLEAR WATCHDOG OF THE UN SAID THIS. THEY SAID THIS, DONT U UNDERSTAND MAN???????

PS, I HAVE LIVED IN THE FOLLOWING COUNTRIES:

PAKISTAN (MUSHARAF SEEN AS US PUPPET)
SAUDI ARABIA (HOUSE OF SAUD DEFINITE US PUPPETS)
AFGHANISTAN (KARZAI= US PUPPET)
KUWAIT (EMIR JABBER IS A US PUPPET)
IRAQ (PAUL BREMER= AMERICAN)
CANADA (ALLY OF USA)

so really man, why did you waste my time ?
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Re:Saddam captured?
« Reply #122 on: December 17, 2003, 10:39:16 PM »

tech you're off your rocker. trauma made an interesting comment about your intellegence that i think holds true. you drop all of this 'knowledge' about foriegn affairs to relative novices on this part of the board...i'll credit you that. but you go on and make RETARDED posts concerning musical, personal, and social matters. my point being here is, if you can't seperate good and bad in relatively simple subjects.......how credible are you when it comes to complex matters?



Now, I aint gonna let u make a claim like this without evidence, or examples.
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Re:Saddam captured?
« Reply #123 on: December 18, 2003, 05:40:54 PM »
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Hey Trauma, wheres the WMD that Rumsfeld said could be identified within 45 minutes?

Hey Trauma, dont u find it odd that after 8 months of being in Iraq they have found nothing?  

Hey Trauma, dont you find it wierd that the justification for this war has switched at least three times?

Hey Trauma, isnt it a coincidence that the right wing neo cons have had the most to gain from this war?  

Hey Trauma, seeing as that there is no conclusive proof that points to the existence of WMD or Baath connections with international terrorists, how exactly was Iraq a threat to the United States?  

Hey Trauma, seeing as that you enjoy tremendously the liberation of Muslims from oppression, and the right to self determination, whether you support the intervention of American troops in the following countries:

Algeria
Egypt
Jordan
Israel/ Occupied Territories
Pakistan
Chechnya
Turkey



Well, Tech definately iz a faggot....
 

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Re:Saddam captured?
« Reply #124 on: December 20, 2003, 12:23:16 PM »
I quote every post made by the homie TECH. He is a smart guy and i respect his views. I was sad to see how even a guy like Trauma has brainwashed views of his nation. FUck all you haters, TEch is 99% on point.
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