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I think World War II was one of the great moments in U.S. and European history, for it changed everything for the better afterwards.
terrorism is easy to define. it's using terror or fear, for a political cause...now we know a bunch of you guys are afraid of the big bad US....at any moment we can bomb your country back into the stone age and we'll probably have some of your neighboring countries with us when we do itbut how is the war on iraq or afghanistan giving us any political advantage?afghanistan is a garbage country with really nothing of importance....maybe we can use it for bases for further attacks on muslims .....er i mean terrorists, but that would cost us money to rebuildiraq has oil....which now every 1st world country is trying to get a hold of...not just america.....also we're not appointing leaders in either of the places so with an educated and logical response....how are we terrorists? how are we striking fear in these people to get what we want?
Quote from: smerlus on December 16, 2003, 11:07:05 PMterrorism is easy to define. it's using terror or fear, for a political cause...now we know a bunch of you guys are afraid of the big bad US....at any moment we can bomb your country back into the stone age and we'll probably have some of your neighboring countries with us when we do itbut how is the war on iraq or afghanistan giving us any political advantage?afghanistan is a garbage country with really nothing of importance....maybe we can use it for bases for further attacks on muslims .....er i mean terrorists, but that would cost us money to rebuildiraq has oil....which now every 1st world country is trying to get a hold of...not just america.....also we're not appointing leaders in either of the places so with an educated and logical response....how are we terrorists? how are we striking fear in these people to get what we want?1. The U.S. realized the mistake it made when it left Afghanistan without helping after the Cold War. In case you didn't know, the U.S. supplied the Mujahideen and wanted them to fight off the Russians, which the Afghans did. Then after the Russians left, so did the U.S., without any rebuilding,financial,humanitarian efforts. That caused Afghanistan to become a breeding ground for terrorists. The U.S. obviously doesn't like being attacked by terrorists, so it reconstructs the country, and doesn't make the same mistake twice. 2. You are obviously too stupid to connect oil to politics, so I'll do it for you. Oil is owned by large companies, large companies make nice little contributions to politicians in return for favors, such as MISSION OIL in Iraq. Also, guess who was the person who gained most from the oil in the Middle East during the Gulf War brought on by George Bush? HIS SON. Oh my, what a fuckin coincidence. 3. We're not appointing leaders in other countries? LOLOL. That's all we fuckin do. Most recent example: Hamid Karzai in Afghanistan. And guess what... He worked for UNOCAL. Yes, the same company in charge of that pipeline in that country. Another coincidence. You fuckin morons are clueless. Go educate yourselves.
Didn't the Germans occupy Rome until American troops kicked them out. I saw some video about the Italians patriot fighters...they weren't organized and had few resources they had no chance vs. German/Italian troops.You can say the American troops died for Italy but if you look at it from a different point of view...they used your country as a battle field for there own protection. They didn't go there to save the Italians...they went there to save their own soil.Just like Operation Iraqi Freedom...like any1 cares about Iraqis
Quote from: Paradox on December 16, 2003, 11:23:04 PMQuote from: smerlus on December 16, 2003, 11:07:05 PMterrorism is easy to define. it's using terror or fear, for a political cause...now we know a bunch of you guys are afraid of the big bad US....at any moment we can bomb your country back into the stone age and we'll probably have some of your neighboring countries with us when we do itbut how is the war on iraq or afghanistan giving us any political advantage?afghanistan is a garbage country with really nothing of importance....maybe we can use it for bases for further attacks on muslims .....er i mean terrorists, but that would cost us money to rebuildiraq has oil....which now every 1st world country is trying to get a hold of...not just america.....also we're not appointing leaders in either of the places so with an educated and logical response....how are we terrorists? how are we striking fear in these people to get what we want?1. The U.S. realized the mistake it made when it left Afghanistan without helping after the Cold War. In case you didn't know, the U.S. supplied the Mujahideen and wanted them to fight off the Russians, which the Afghans did. Then after the Russians left, so did the U.S., without any rebuilding,financial,humanitarian efforts. That caused Afghanistan to become a breeding ground for terrorists. The U.S. obviously doesn't like being attacked by terrorists, so it reconstructs the country, and doesn't make the same mistake twice. 2. You are obviously too stupid to connect oil to politics, so I'll do it for you. Oil is owned by large companies, large companies make nice little contributions to politicians in return for favors, such as MISSION OIL in Iraq. Also, guess who was the person who gained most from the oil in the Middle East during the Gulf War brought on by George Bush? HIS SON. Oh my, what a fuckin coincidence. 3. We're not appointing leaders in other countries? LOLOL. That's all we fuckin do. Most recent example: Hamid Karzai in Afghanistan. And guess what... He worked for UNOCAL. Yes, the same company in charge of that pipeline in that country. Another coincidence. You fuckin morons are clueless. Go educate yourselves.1) so we gave an army weapons to fight another country (like we do with israel) that country then degrades and turns into terrorists years later (unlike israel) how does that make us terrorists fuck face?2) so oil is run by companies and companies give donations to political leaders for favors....and my point still is...how does that make us terrorists little bitch?3) and for your last useless point....http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/insight/articles/eav121001.shtmlthe government that is now in afghanistan has appointed him leader and they are all happy about it....so just because he has ties to a pipeline makes him an unreasonable candidate.....maybe you should decide who leads thier country since you're so educated...strike three bitch
Quote from: smerlus on December 16, 2003, 11:33:15 PMQuote from: Paradox on December 16, 2003, 11:23:04 PMQuote from: smerlus on December 16, 2003, 11:07:05 PMterrorism is easy to define. it's using terror or fear, for a political cause...now we know a bunch of you guys are afraid of the big bad US....at any moment we can bomb your country back into the stone age and we'll probably have some of your neighboring countries with us when we do itbut how is the war on iraq or afghanistan giving us any political advantage?afghanistan is a garbage country with really nothing of importance....maybe we can use it for bases for further attacks on muslims .....er i mean terrorists, but that would cost us money to rebuildiraq has oil....which now every 1st world country is trying to get a hold of...not just america.....also we're not appointing leaders in either of the places so with an educated and logical response....how are we terrorists? how are we striking fear in these people to get what we want?1. The U.S. realized the mistake it made when it left Afghanistan without helping after the Cold War. In case you didn't know, the U.S. supplied the Mujahideen and wanted them to fight off the Russians, which the Afghans did. Then after the Russians left, so did the U.S., without any rebuilding,financial,humanitarian efforts. That caused Afghanistan to become a breeding ground for terrorists. The U.S. obviously doesn't like being attacked by terrorists, so it reconstructs the country, and doesn't make the same mistake twice. 2. You are obviously too stupid to connect oil to politics, so I'll do it for you. Oil is owned by large companies, large companies make nice little contributions to politicians in return for favors, such as MISSION OIL in Iraq. Also, guess who was the person who gained most from the oil in the Middle East during the Gulf War brought on by George Bush? HIS SON. Oh my, what a fuckin coincidence. 3. We're not appointing leaders in other countries? LOLOL. That's all we fuckin do. Most recent example: Hamid Karzai in Afghanistan. And guess what... He worked for UNOCAL. Yes, the same company in charge of that pipeline in that country. Another coincidence. You fuckin morons are clueless. Go educate yourselves.1) so we gave an army weapons to fight another country (like we do with israel) that country then degrades and turns into terrorists years later (unlike israel) how does that make us terrorists fuck face?2) so oil is run by companies and companies give donations to political leaders for favors....and my point still is...how does that make us terrorists little bitch?3) and for your last useless point....http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/insight/articles/eav121001.shtmlthe government that is now in afghanistan has appointed him leader and they are all happy about it....so just because he has ties to a pipeline makes him an unreasonable candidate.....maybe you should decide who leads thier country since you're so educated...strike three bitch1. We supported Saddam until he nationalized the oil fields. He didn't change any of his ways. He always killed innocents before that, but we turned our head because we got oil. Strike 1 BITCH.2. You said yourself that terrorism is induced by a political motive, and you just admitted that oil companies have ties to POLITICIANS. If you can't decypher that sentence then I don't know what to tell you because quite frankly I can't draw a diagram for you here. Strike 2 SINCE YOU PROVED ME RIGHT. 3. The government that is now in Afghanistan? How did that government come about? Hamid Karzai worked for the U.S. government for ages. They told him to get his ass over there, and made sure he was a "temporary" leader. On your comment about I should decide who leads THEIR country... I am part of that THEIR. And quite frankly as an Afghan I would know a hell of a lot more about what goes on there. Strike 3 BITCH. Now learn your place and get off these nuts cuz you've been sonned.
1. I'll break it down for you since you seem to have a very low intelligence level. We helped bring Saddam to power. We gave him weapons, which he used to kill his own people. We knew about it but didnt care because he gave us oil. He nationalized the oil fields and all of a sudden we tell people that he is a cruel leader. We want the oil so we use his cruelty as an excuse TO BOMB IRAQ KILLING INNOCENT CIVILIANS. <<Terrorism2. Oil companies aren't the ones bombing the nation. The U.S. government is. So you claim that the oil companies are terrorists because according to you they are carrying out the bombings. Since they're not carrying out the attacks, whoever is, must be a terrorist. Thanks for proving to me that the U.S. government is carrying out terrorism. Also, the oil companies AID the government in killing. Just in the same way that we aided Saddam in killing others. In the latter, Saddam was the EVIL one. So in the same equation with the oil company and the government, the government would be the EVIL. 3. The country's leaders didn't appoint him. I would have to get into great detail to explain to you what went on, and why it did, but even then you wouldn't be able to grasp the idea. Point short, Karzai was placed in power by the U.S. Even now, with the new "election", the U.S. says "Karzai must remain in power for the benefit of Afghanistan". I'm not disagreeing with that or agreeing. However, the point here is that you made the stupid statement about the U.S. not helping others come to power in other countries. CHECKMATE
i'm gonna type slow cause i know you don't read and comprehend too good...
Quote from: smerlus on December 17, 2003, 12:19:17 AMi'm gonna type slow cause i know you don't read and comprehend too good...1. You missed the whole point of my argument. I didn't say the U.S. was terrorist because it supported Saddam; it's terrorist because of what it did to Iraq. Gulf War my friend. 2. There's a difference when the president's friends are involved. I didn't say oil companies are terrorists, you did. I said the U.S. government was for bombing innocent civilians FOR the oil companies. 3. Did you read the part where I said that I don't agree or disagree with him being a good leader. Whatever is best for the Afghan people living in Afghanistan, and if he is it, then let him be. However, the U.S. helped bring him to power. That is the only point I tried and have proven. By the way, HE WORKED FOR UNOCAL. THE SAME COMPANY IN CHARGE OF THAT PIPELINE BEING RUN DOWN AFGHANISTAN. You said you were gonna type slow. How does the speed at which you type change anything. You know all the letters still are the same distance apart, and you typing slow doesn't mean the words show up slower on my computer. Talk about being slow in the head. It's ok, we all have our blonde moments. Thanks for the good laugh. Pretty ironic.