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Re: Ya'll need to quit debasing yourselves with Porn, Wine and Swine
« Reply #60 on: August 17, 2004, 04:30:57 AM »
^^^^^^^^And let me add, Rod... notice I never speak to Tech or any Muslim the way I do to you... I don't want to be a "fitnah" (trial) for the Muslims, but your always the one attacks me first, calling me out by name, and claiming that I misrepresent Islam.  So I have to set the record straight.   

Anyone who wants to find out the validity of Rod's statements, you don't have to take it from me, all they have to do is go to the Qu'ran and the history of all the Prophets, and Muhammad and his companions, and find out the truth for yourself. 

You talk about truth...? All Muhammed did was chief off the Christian beliefs to create his own religion... He "converted" people by killing them and by fear. Fear is what drives Islam it always has and always will... well that and ignorance. Muhammed is no differnt then the likes of Genghis Khan.
 

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Re: Ya'll need to quit debasing yourselves with Porn, Wine and Swine
« Reply #61 on: August 17, 2004, 05:26:25 AM »
If Islam was spread by the sword then how come the largest Muslim country is Indonesia, and no battle was ever fought there? 
If Islam was spread by the sword then how come the largest Muslim country in Africa is Nigeria, a place where no major battle was ever fought by Muslims?  Or all of black Africa, where Muslim's didn't fight a major battle?
If Islam was spread by the sword then how did Muslim's rule India for 800 years and still leave behind a majority of Hindu's?

The truth is that Islam was mainly spread through trade.  Trader's from different parts of the world would meet at trading ports in the city, and follow the Islamic economic system of law, because it was the most known and practical system of trade.  Mosque's were biult at key trading ports, Islamic scholars would visit the major cities, some traders would stay and live and mix with the indigenous people, and eventually the region would become Muslim.

I will be honest with you though.  Muslim's are aloud to defend themselves if they feel they are being oppressed.  The Qu'ran gives man the right to self-defense.  The Qu'ran says if you are oppressed then do to them what they did to you, or you can forgive them, and forgiveness is best for you if you but knew.  So the option is there.
 

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Re: Ya'll need to quit debasing yourselves with Porn, Wine and Swine
« Reply #62 on: August 17, 2004, 05:33:44 AM »
...Muslim's are aloud to defend themselves..


allowed? lol...



 

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Re: Ya'll need to quit debasing yourselves with Porn, Wine and Swine
« Reply #63 on: August 17, 2004, 05:51:19 AM »
If Islam was spread by the sword then how come the largest Muslim country is Indonesia, and no battle was ever fought there? 
If Islam was spread by the sword then how come the largest Muslim country in Africa is Nigeria, a place where no major battle was ever fought by Muslims?  Or all of black Africa, where Muslim's didn't fight a major battle?
If Islam was spread by the sword then how did Muslim's rule India for 800 years and still leave behind a majority of Hindu's?

The truth is that Islam was mainly spread through trade.  Trader's from different parts of the world would meet at trading ports in the city, and follow the Islamic economic system of law, because it was the most known and practical system of trade.  Mosque's were biult at key trading ports, Islamic scholars would visit the major cities, some traders would stay and live and mix with the indigenous people, and eventually the region would become Muslim.

I will be honest with you though.  Muslim's are aloud to defend themselves if they feel they are being oppressed.  The Qu'ran gives man the right to self-defense.  The Qu'ran says if you are oppressed then do to them what they did to you, or you can forgive them, and forgiveness is best for you if you but knew.  So the option is there.


No, as I said before some of Islam was due to ignorance in the way that the people were pagans and it is easy to spread a religion to people who worshipped the moon. Also Nigeria is not all Muslim they have a sizable Christian minority there and all of Black Africa is not Muslim you are just delusional. The reason Islam didn't take hold in India is the same reason Christianity didn't take hold when the various European nations ruled the Middle East and North Africa. Its because they already had an organized set of beliefs in place so it was extremely hard to convert them. Don't quote Koran nonsense to me because it doesn't mean $hit to me.
 

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Re: Ya'll need to quit debasing yourselves with Porn, Wine and Swine
« Reply #64 on: August 17, 2004, 06:32:24 AM »
If you're enjoying yourself living how you're living, more power to you... It's all good though, do what you gotta do...PeACe
 

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Re: Ya'll need to quit debasing yourselves with Porn, Wine and Swine
« Reply #65 on: August 17, 2004, 06:08:44 PM »
If Islam was spread by the sword then how come the largest Muslim country is Indonesia, and no battle was ever fought there? 
If Islam was spread by the sword then how come the largest Muslim country in Africa is Nigeria, a place where no major battle was ever fought by Muslims?  Or all of black Africa, where Muslim's didn't fight a major battle?
If Islam was spread by the sword then how did Muslim's rule India for 800 years and still leave behind a majority of Hindu's?

The truth is that Islam was mainly spread through trade.  Trader's from different parts of the world would meet at trading ports in the city, and follow the Islamic economic system of law, because it was the most known and practical system of trade.  Mosque's were biult at key trading ports, Islamic scholars would visit the major cities, some traders would stay and live and mix with the indigenous people, and eventually the region would become Muslim.

I will be honest with you though.  Muslim's are aloud to defend themselves if they feel they are being oppressed.  The Qu'ran gives man the right to self-defense.  The Qu'ran says if you are oppressed then do to them what they did to you, or you can forgive them, and forgiveness is best for you if you but knew.  So the option is there.


No, as I said before some of Islam was due to ignorance in the way that the people were pagans and it is easy to spread a religion to people who worshipped the moon. Also Nigeria is not all Muslim they have a sizable Christian minority there and all of Black Africa is not Muslim you are just delusional. The reason Islam didn't take hold in India is the same reason Christianity didn't take hold when the various European nations ruled the Middle East and North Africa. Its because they already had an organized set of beliefs in place so it was extremely hard to convert them. Don't quote Koran nonsense to me because it doesn't mean $hit to me.

Ahhh shut up, Get off Islams dick and tell ya sell out bitch to come here  :laugh:
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Re: Ya'll need to quit debasing yourselves with Porn, Wine and Swine
« Reply #66 on: August 21, 2004, 01:16:37 PM »


No, as I said before some of Islam was due to ignorance in the way that the people were pagans and it is easy to spread a religion to people who worshipped the moon. Also Nigeria is not all Muslim they have a sizable Christian minority there and all of Black Africa is not Muslim you are just delusional. The reason Islam didn't take hold in India is the same reason Christianity didn't take hold when the various European nations ruled the Middle East and North Africa. Its because they already had an organized set of beliefs in place so it was extremely hard to convert them. Don't quote Koran nonsense to me because it doesn't mean $hit to me.

I just want to add that countries like Syria and Turkey that are currently Muslim countries, used to be dynasties of the Christian Empire. 

Christians turning to Islam is nothing new, billions have done it throughout history.  Take me for example, my whole family is Christian, I was raised Christian, everyone in my whole neighborhood and city growing up was Christian.  I live in America, a Christian country.  My friends, my girlfriend,were all Christian.  Christianity was the easy and accepted religion for me.  I left it all for Islam. 
« Last Edit: August 21, 2004, 01:18:12 PM by Hajj Ibrahim Islam »
 

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Re: Ya'll need to quit debasing yourselves with Porn, Wine and Swine
« Reply #67 on: August 21, 2004, 02:35:48 PM »
So you're actually just rebellious or else a neophile?
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Re: Ya'll need to quit debasing yourselves with Porn, Wine and Swine
« Reply #68 on: August 21, 2004, 02:52:02 PM »
So you're actually just rebellious or else a neophile?

No.  I'm just someone who was fortunate enough to recognize that there are a people who actually practice what they believed in.  I found a practical way of living life that far exceeds washing your car all day and getting drunk at night.  It wasn't hard for me to understand that the Lord is One, and that nothing is worthy of worship except him.
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« Reply #69 on: August 22, 2004, 09:47:02 AM »
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The fact that you base all of Christianity on the people you knew personally puzzles me. To make such a bold statement like that no christian practises christianity, and they all fall into evil, is absurd.

Sure there are many who abuse their beliefs and I know a lot of Christians that do so, but I also know a lot of Muslims that do so aswell.