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even b4 he said this, it was common knowledge to hip hop heads kris parker wasnt all there.
You can't go around and say "I fuck dead bodies"....... and then say "No, that was taken out of context, let me explain what I mean when I say I fuck dead bodies". You can't say "I want to murder my wife" and then say "no, I was surprised to read the paper and find that I said I wanted to murder my wife. What I really meant was"...
NOT saying they[the people] don't matter, they're simply not part of this point of view. (e.g., if it's your job to estimate the costs caused by an accident you don't need to consider how many people died in it cause it's not your job at the time. That doesn't mean you don't care about these people)
Quote from: Twang on October 16, 2004, 03:35:39 PMYou can't go around and say "I fuck dead bodies"....... and then say "No, that was taken out of context, let me explain what I mean when I say I fuck dead bodies". You can't say "I want to murder my wife" and then say "no, I was surprised to read the paper and find that I said I wanted to murder my wife. What I really meant was"...you just don't get the point. He didn't say HE was happy that it happened. WHen he talked about "we were cheering" he's refering to the hiphop community looking at the companies in the building. Not the people but the companies. That point of view is simply not considering that people were in that building that's why it is an unacceptable point of view on the WHOLE tragedy, including all the people that lost their lives and he says that himself. Simply saying you cheered when something happened that peeps lost their lifes over is "crazy" as he put it himself.
Quote from: L2DB on October 17, 2004, 04:32:35 PMQuote from: Twang on October 16, 2004, 03:35:39 PMYou can't go around and say "I fuck dead bodies"....... and then say "No, that was taken out of context, let me explain what I mean when I say I fuck dead bodies". You can't say "I want to murder my wife" and then say "no, I was surprised to read the paper and find that I said I wanted to murder my wife. What I really meant was"...you just don't get the point. He didn't say HE was happy that it happened. WHen he talked about "we were cheering" he's refering to the hiphop community looking at the companies in the building. Not the people but the companies. That point of view is simply not considering that people were in that building that's why it is an unacceptable point of view on the WHOLE tragedy, including all the people that lost their lives and he says that himself. Simply saying you cheered when something happened that peeps lost their lifes over is "crazy" as he put it himself.YOU CANT GO AROUND SAYING CONTRAVERSIAL SHIT, THEN TRY AND EXPLAIN IT AWAY. He could have just said"Well, I'm not concerned about the companies that were in the building, I think many of them were racist." or something. Why say "I CHEERED" fuck him, fuck his, fuck you, fuck whoever cheered. You're all a bunch of pricks for that. There's no explaining away an asshole's remarks.
He's trying to change the story cuz he's afraid to get killedFUck anyone who believes he didnt say itFUCk KRs-One even harderpz
All he did is express a seperated point of view on ONE aspect of the attacks (the business aspect). That doesn' take ANYTHING away from the fact that he is as said as everybody else that 911 happened cause people did die.If a bomb kills a whole lotta people including1.a tyran who controlled the whole country and 2.your parentsYou are sad and wish it wouldn't have happened, yet, thinking about the political aspect only you do cheer at the fact that the country's now free.Now if you were asked about your political opinion on what happened you could say "I cheered when the tyran's oppression was blown away" even if you actually cried when it happened cause your parents and other peeps died. It doesn't mean you literally cheered, it only means you would have cheered if that was the only effect of what happened and since you currently speak about the political aspect only, you also express your reaction to the political aspect only. Your reaction to the end of the tyran's oppression = cheering. And that is exactly what KRS did "My intent is never to demean or disrespect anyone’s loss or gain; and of course I did not literally “cheer when 911 happened”. I made an objective statement about the feelings of those who were oppressed by world trade policies. I was just as saddened as everyone else on 911. "You might call KRS a fool for saying it in a way that's easy to interpretate wrongly, especially whithout the context BUT you can not call him fucked up for having that opinion cause there is NOTHING wrong or even offensive about the opinion.
while he might have some points, there is no excuse for the shit the Daily News quoted. And his fuckin response as to how he was 'taken out of context' doesn't provide any excuse either. It's not only cynical, but also straight up dumb to claim 9/11 was 'justice for black people' especially when your main point is racial prejudice towards blacks by WTC security. that's so fuckin blown outta proportion, think about it, 6,000 lives were lost and that includes several black lives from what i know. again, that is cynical and fuckin stupid at the same time. And it still is if you consider it 'retaliation' for the black people and injustice towards them not particularly related to the WTC, because saying that goes against christian beliefs and promoting peace and unity and seeing any kind of 'justice' in such an act (when you consider yourself a religious or religiously inspired 'spiritual minded' 'preacher') is HIGHLY ambivalent, contradictory and fuckin stupid. KRS is a punkand what bothers me too is his incredibly presumptous and self-righteous approach to everything. He seems to be absolutely incapable of getting rid of his cockiness for a second (let alone reconsider his views instead of attacking anybody who might not share them), pointing out what a truth-speaking poet and philosopher he is various times. "I'm no. 1, oops sorry i lie, I'm no. 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5". He already gets on my nerves compulsively including shit like that in political songs and messages, but in this context it gets sickening. Cocky ass bastardi'm not even defending the media, nor the way blacks are treated or anything. KRS points out true things, but 9/11 was/is not justice for anything or anybody (on a side note, DEFINITELY not for muslims as they suffered most from the consequences) and anybody within the hiphop community of a halfway decent intellect who really wants peace should agree on that. if not, he/she'd have to come up with hella better points than KRS. It's a shame
My thoughts exactly. Like I said earlier, I don't know a single black person who cheered that shit. I think the only person who cheered this was Bush, Cheney and their cohorts since now they have a ready made excuse to wreak havoc and reap the profits.
Like everyone I was shocked to read that I and other African-Americans actually “cheered when 911 happened” and that I have “declared my solidarity with Al Qaeda”. When I read my words taken out of context I was shocked and disappointed that the Daily News would go this far to assassinate my character and distort my views. Such statements with no follow up explanation or interview from KRS-ONE as to what he may have meant or even a complete quote of my point is simply irresponsible journalism on the Daily News’ part. I would never just say something as crazy as “we cheered when 911 happened!” I was making an objective point about how many Hiphoppas as well as the oppressed peoples of the world felt that day. I am a philosopher and a critical thinker, I speak truth and I urge people to think critically about themselves and their environment. Yes, my words are strong. Yes, my views are controversial. But to call me a terrorist is simply wrong!...I was asked by the New Yorker magazine to discuss “different and personal beliefs musicians hold and the contribution artists like myself can make to the nation’s political dialog”. My views were indeed different and most were personal. However, when I was asked about why Hiphop has not engaged the current situation more (meaning 911) my responds was “because it does not affect us, or at least we don’t perceive that it effects us, 911 happened to them”. I went on to say that “I am speaking for the culture now; I am not speaking my personal opinion”. I continued to say; “911 effected them down the block; the rich, the powerful those that are oppressing us as a culture. Sony, RCA or BMG, Universal, the radio stations, Clear Channel, Viacom with BET and MTV, those are our oppressors those are the people that we’re trying to overcome in Hiphop everyday, this is a daily thing. We cheered when 911 happened in New York and say that proudly here. Because when we were down at the trade center we were getting hit over the head by cops, told that we can’t come in this building, hustled down to the train station because of the way we dressed and talked, and so on, we were racially profiled. So, when the planes hit the building we were like; mmmm justice.” And just as I began to say “now of course a lot of our friends and family were lost there as well” but I was interrupted.My intent is never to demean or disrespect anyone’s loss or gain; and of course I did not literally “cheer when 911 happened”. I made an objective statement about the feelings of those who were oppressed by world trade policies. I was just as saddened as everyone else on 911. However, for many of us that were racially profiled and harassed by the World’s Trade Center’s security and the police patrolling that area as well as the thousands of American protesters that spoke out against the World Trade Organization months before in Seattle, Washington there was a sense of justice, a sense of change, a wake up call watching the twin towers fall. These are not my views only; these views represent a popular truth that few people are really ready to hear. No one wished death on anyone or just sat and “cheered when 911 happened”. But some of us can see through the bullshit! America must change its approach to the world and its citizens. This, I believe is what all Americans should be thinking about. How do we make our country better?
I am a philosopher and a critical thinker, I speak truth
I am a poet and I speak poetically
KRS-ONE’s leadership...
For the record, I am an American philosopher. I speak and seek truth
and what bothers me too is his incredibly presumptous and self-righteous approach to everything. He seems to be absolutely incapable of getting rid of his cockiness for a second (let alone reconsider his views instead of attacking anybody who might not share them), pointing out what a truth-speaking poet and philosopher he is various times. "I'm no. 1, oops sorry i lie, I'm no. 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5". He already gets on my nerves compulsively including shit like that in political songs and messages, but in this context it gets sickening. Cocky ass bastard
...if you are not prepared to hear what Hiphop has to say about its view of world events then don’t ask