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to say Em's lyrical doesnt matter cuz Lil Wytes has better beats is a damn shame. lil white isnt to talented. only white guys to me that can spit is Eminem and Atmosphere is not to shabby
yes, shallow, just completely ignore what i said, and continue with your eminem street teaming. you make 12 year old pimple faced white girls seem like fans. if you can't admit something is better than something else, you're a dickrider, plain and simple.
Quote from: smartass on October 23, 2004, 10:20:30 AMyes, shallow, just completely ignore what i said, and continue with your eminem street teaming. you make 12 year old pimple faced white girls seem like fans. if you can't admit something is better than something else, you're a dickrider, plain and simple.I didn't ignore what you said, but you are ignoring common sense. How are you going to prove that one album is better than an another? You can't, because it is impossible to do so. You can prove what album you play more, and what eats you like better, but not what is better. There is no better in art. Why can't you see that. You can argue what album will have hte greater impact, and for that I'll put my money on Eminem, but I can never say that Emimen's album IS better, I can only say what I like better. Just becuae I like Eminem better what I think is a terrible excuse for music, South Hip Hop, doesn't mean I'm an Eminem dick ryder. It just means I think 36 Mafia sucks, but I could never factually say that they are worse than Em, I just don't like them.The best thing you can do is post a poll, and let the people on the forum vote which album is better.
An album can be better than another one, whether you can prove it or not depends on how obious it is. Illmatic > Game Face = Fact. That doesn't mean nobody can prefer Game Face, all it means is that you'll find more provable quality in Illmatic than in Game Face.. the taste still justifies liking Game Face alot more cause there is no truth in taste, but in provable quality, yes there is.Illmatic lyrics > Game Face lyrics = fact, it's easy to prove that Nas' lyrics have more of a message, require more skills, have more variety in em, ect. than Master P's
Quote from: L2DB on October 24, 2004, 06:32:07 AMAn album can be better than another one, whether you can prove it or not depends on how obious it is. Illmatic > Game Face = Fact. That doesn't mean nobody can prefer Game Face, all it means is that you'll find more provable quality in Illmatic than in Game Face.. the taste still justifies liking Game Face alot more cause there is no truth in taste, but in provable quality, yes there is.Illmatic lyrics > Game Face lyrics = fact, it's easy to prove that Nas' lyrics have more of a message, require more skills, have more variety in em, ect. than Master P's...and even that is technically not true. You can count syllables and scrutinize the rhyme structure and make factual statements as to it. You can still claim Master P's lyrics are better...of course 99.999% of people would find that ridiculous, but there is not proof of Illmatic being better, factually
dude im baning you mother over here in eu. but im not a white,brown,black,yellow etc. im your nightmare
of course. denying that wouldn't be too reasonable. all i'm saying is it ain't a fact on the level of "a day has 24 hours" or "1+1 = 2"
An album can be better than another one, whether you can prove it or not depends on how obious it is. Illmatic > Game Face = Fact. That doesn't mean nobody can prefer Game Face, all it means is that you'll find more provable quality in Illmatic than in Game Face.. the taste still justifies liking Game Face alot more cause there is no truth in taste, but in provable quality, yes there is.Illmatic lyrics > Game Face lyrics = fact, it's easy to prove that Nas' lyrics have more of a message, require more skills, have more variety in em, ect. than Master P'swhen it comes to rpoduction it's alot more difficult but you can still prove that if one album has nothing but even sounding extremely simple beats with basically the same melody or something but you'll have to find a pretty damn wack produced album to have it that obvious.replay value is bullshit, it depends 100% on taste and can never be an aspect you can objectively judge anything onsince smartass chose to ignore the easiest way to objectively prove quality (the lyrics) and already expressed his subjective liking (any liking is subjective) for lil whyte's beats + dislike for Em's and the fact that it will clearly be the main aspect for him to judge the albums on and, last but not least even admitted to consider replay value an objective judging aspect, this is indeed a pointless thread.nobody can possibly prove that there is replay value for him, it's like trying to prove that he likes it. replay value is as subjective as taste as that's what it totally depeds on. The one thing you could do is let the majority decide but I doubt he'll agree on that
you know why its so easy to prove that eminems production is garbage? because all of his beats sound exactly the same. he never changes up his drums, and he always keeps the same dark sound present in every one of them. i never thought anyone would surpass swizz beats in the bad beat-making department. eminem passed with flying colors. if you know anything about layers, drums, melodies, tempo, etc, then you know that eminem is THE worst producer in hiphop, EVER. replay value is objective. i'd let the people decide, but i know they aint even going to listen to wytes album anyway. eminem could come with a half-assed album, and just because of his (amazing ) forced flow and multis they'd eat it up. when people defend a song like just lose it, you know theres something wrong.oh, and, just for the record, the man behind the boards is the backbone of rap. without dj's or producers there would be nothing for mc's to spit over. so in a traditional sense, beats are more important than rhymes.(and that is something you can't prove wrong, cause kool herc was the first)