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Don't you think I am wrong when I say all your beliefs are trash? So how do we differ then?
7even dismisses religion. Interesting, I suppose the idea that the entire universe in all its marvel and complexity was one coincidence is more feasible? Or a result of an amazing sequence of scientific incidents?. Laughable, this world has a design to it, thus it has a creator.
Quote from: -Sikotic- on January 12, 2005, 09:51:35 PMQuote from: Rampant on January 12, 2005, 09:32:24 PMIf you believe something you cannot force your beliefs on other people.Believing in something like God takes faith, because it cant be proven, its just something you believe to be true.That;s the whole problem. People believe so strongly in other people's beliefs, they become egotistical with it and say everyone else is wrong.The downfall of mankind. If people respected others viewpoints and faiths more often, things would be more peaceful. That's why no one can get mad at 7even either. You can;t prove him right or wrong, but you can have strong believe for his statement or against it.Good point... How can you be telling someone to believe in something and see things your way if your not willing to listen and understand them? How can someone be so sure of themself if they haven't been willing to listen to others and automatically consider others wrong?Sikotic always keeps it real.
Quote from: Rampant on January 12, 2005, 09:32:24 PMIf you believe something you cannot force your beliefs on other people.Believing in something like God takes faith, because it cant be proven, its just something you believe to be true.That;s the whole problem. People believe so strongly in other people's beliefs, they become egotistical with it and say everyone else is wrong.The downfall of mankind. If people respected others viewpoints and faiths more often, things would be more peaceful. That's why no one can get mad at 7even either. You can;t prove him right or wrong, but you can have strong believe for his statement or against it.
If you believe something you cannot force your beliefs on other people.Believing in something like God takes faith, because it cant be proven, its just something you believe to be true.
7even dismisses religion. Interesting, I suppose the idea that the entire universe in all its marvel and complexity was one coincidence is more feasible? Or a result of an amazing sequence of scientific incidents?. Laughable, this world has a design to it, thus it has a creator.The brother who posted earlier was right, my post wasnt based on Quran just various hadith and tradition i have come across
Quote from: O.G. Techniec on January 13, 2005, 02:02:47 PM7even dismisses religion. Interesting, I suppose the idea that the entire universe in all its marvel and complexity was one coincidence is more feasible? Or a result of an amazing sequence of scientific incidents?. Laughable, this world has a design to it, thus it has a creator.The brother who posted earlier was right, my post wasnt based on Quran just various hadith and tradition i have come acrossWhat's also interesting is that scientists believe the creation of the universe was the result of a "Big Bang".... the Quran's description of how God created the universe actually parallels that... so in my view, science and religion actually come together... I do believe the scientific theory of the BigBang, but then religion describes that God caused the "BigBang" (as the parallel description in the Quran describes) to occur...
Quote from: *Jamal* on January 13, 2005, 03:34:02 PMQuote from: O.G. Techniec on January 13, 2005, 02:02:47 PM7even dismisses religion. Interesting, I suppose the idea that the entire universe in all its marvel and complexity was one coincidence is more feasible? Or a result of an amazing sequence of scientific incidents?. Laughable, this world has a design to it, thus it has a creator.The brother who posted earlier was right, my post wasnt based on Quran just various hadith and tradition i have come acrossWhat's also interesting is that scientists believe the creation of the universe was the result of a "Big Bang".... the Quran's description of how God created the universe actually parallels that... so in my view, science and religion actually come together... I do believe the scientific theory of the BigBang, but then religion describes that God caused the "BigBang" (as the parallel description in the Quran describes) to occur... i always thought of the big bang theory as being kinda weak. if the universe is ever expanding, what does it expand into? i don't beleave in a god or any creation theroryi don't know how or why we're herebut i can't aknowlege a godas for the world ending, i think it is, but everything has an end
Quote from: Don Rizzle on January 12, 2005, 03:50:26 PMI'm hoping you've read you koran, do you believe in the prophet muhammid predictions and the world is very near its end?Don, Allah revealed to Muhammad in the Noble Qu'ran, that on the Day of Judgement the Earth will be shaken to it's convulsion, and the final trumpet will be blown. The Qu'ran however, does not indicate exact signs and events that will let us know the day of judgement is near.The information being given to you by Muslims on this thread so far has not been from the Qu'ran.[/i] They are getting these from stories and traditions that may or may not be authentic.Sometimes the various religious communties get carried away with idle talk of the coming of the Day of Judgement. People are looking for signs now, but they don't know with certainty that today's events indicate the coming of the Day of Judgement. Talk of the Day of Judgement was on everybody's toungues 700 hundred years ago as well. Let me give you some stories relating how various faiths dealt with that time period. This is by Western Historian Ross E Dunn..........."The lethal darkness of the Black Plaque had many religious faiths predicting that the world was coming to an end. Funeral processions moved through the streets in a never ending parade of grief. Stocks of coffins and burial garments ran out, and gravediggers who managed to survive commanded exorbitant fees for their work. Mosque's closed when all the officials and caretakers had died. Many who fled the plaque in vain hope of evading it fell dead along the road with their horses and camels.Both Muslims and Christians struggled to fit this unprecendented disaster into a framework of spiritual meaning. Christian doctrine invited the conclusion that the sins of mankind had accumulated to the point where God was obliged to teach his creation a lesson it would never forget. Amid the horrors of the plague, many believed the lesson was to be the final one, the end of the world.[/i] A mood of impending apocalypse siezed Europe, producing obsessive preoccupation with images of death, furious self-flagellating movements to expiate sins, and massacres of Jews, the traditional target of hostility and fear.In Islam by contrast, no doctrine of origional sin pervaded theology. All events affecting the community of believers were to be understood as the continuing revealing of God's will. Despite the social in the midst of the plaque. Muslims mostly accepted it as a manifestation of God's unknowable plan for His creation. Mass public supplications to God to lift the scourge probably occured in most cities and towns of the Middle East, but expiation crusades, messianism, or persecution of minorities were not in evidence."
I'm hoping you've read you koran, do you believe in the prophet muhammid predictions and the world is very near its end?
Quote from: Don Rizzle on May 10, 2006, 03:16:12 AMiraq would just get annexed by iranThat would be a great solution. If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
iraq would just get annexed by iran
The reason i started this thread was that a few months ago i downloaded this film on emule it was something just out at the cinema but i can't remember what it was, however once the downloaded was complete i found it to be a fake instead of being the film i was after it was some documentary/islamic propergander, i decided to watch it anyway. basically it was talking about the prophet mohammad's predictions and how they've all been happening in a small space of time ie withing the last hundred years, ones most notable were were war on a scale never seen before (ww1, ww2) and much more frequent natural disasters and loss of morals. and because of all this mohammad's prediction of the day of judgement is supposed to be near. its a shame i deleted it afterwoods i could have uploaded it. What are your thaughts on this?
Who created the creator?
Quote from: Citizen Kain on January 28, 2005, 04:37:25 AMWho created the creator? Well obviously if X created the creator Y, then X would take the place of Y as the Supreme Being and Creator.