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Don`t make a fool of yourself, you don`t got to have musical theory to know good music. The most important thing about music is melody. Without a good melody you don`t even have a fucking song! Allmost all Eminem melody`s sound the same. The same boring, messy, cheesy, depressed shit over and over again. That`s the main reason why he sucks. I could get into many other things like the drum programing, producing and executing the track, but it`s no point anyway becouse I honestly think people are deaf to his music, and in love with his image.By the way Jake, I`m studying music-production at a multimedia school, so by your rules I can talk as much shit as I want about his production
Quote from: smartass on January 23, 2005, 11:12:03 AMQuote from: BIGjakeDOGGYdogg on January 20, 2005, 09:49:04 PMQuote from: smartass on January 20, 2005, 10:28:25 AMQuote from: BIGjakeDOGGYdogg on January 20, 2005, 02:18:47 AMi find it funny....no wait commical how people here say eminem is a horrible producer yet LOOOOOVE daz and battlecat. i ain't saying eminem is dr. dre or nothing but he's not even a fifth as bad as y'all make him out to be....some of y'all need to take up an instrument or a music class dont compare eminem to daz ever again, you fucking clown.dogg food and retaliation revenge and get back>eminems shitty repetitive same snare and bass beatsshit, rockwilder has the same repetitive style and even his production is better than eminem.watch out this guy knows REAL music....rockwilder and daz dillinger,loldude c'mon i ain't saying em is the best but he's certainly ALOT better musically than some of y'all heros lose yourself>daz/rockwilders' whole careerthe ramblings of a defeated homosexual. this thread is about production, you blind dickrider.^ a wise man once said "if you have to make personal attacks on someone during a disagreement or argument....you lost the argument"i don't even really like eminem all that much BUT i'll definately give him my props.............when you learn to analyze music you learn to seperate personal bias from the observed quality, learn some musical theory then come back and talk shit about eminem's production style. Until then you're just as foolish as some one saying the beatles suck.
Quote from: BIGjakeDOGGYdogg on January 20, 2005, 09:49:04 PMQuote from: smartass on January 20, 2005, 10:28:25 AMQuote from: BIGjakeDOGGYdogg on January 20, 2005, 02:18:47 AMi find it funny....no wait commical how people here say eminem is a horrible producer yet LOOOOOVE daz and battlecat. i ain't saying eminem is dr. dre or nothing but he's not even a fifth as bad as y'all make him out to be....some of y'all need to take up an instrument or a music class dont compare eminem to daz ever again, you fucking clown.dogg food and retaliation revenge and get back>eminems shitty repetitive same snare and bass beatsshit, rockwilder has the same repetitive style and even his production is better than eminem.watch out this guy knows REAL music....rockwilder and daz dillinger,loldude c'mon i ain't saying em is the best but he's certainly ALOT better musically than some of y'all heros lose yourself>daz/rockwilders' whole careerthe ramblings of a defeated homosexual. this thread is about production, you blind dickrider.
Quote from: smartass on January 20, 2005, 10:28:25 AMQuote from: BIGjakeDOGGYdogg on January 20, 2005, 02:18:47 AMi find it funny....no wait commical how people here say eminem is a horrible producer yet LOOOOOVE daz and battlecat. i ain't saying eminem is dr. dre or nothing but he's not even a fifth as bad as y'all make him out to be....some of y'all need to take up an instrument or a music class dont compare eminem to daz ever again, you fucking clown.dogg food and retaliation revenge and get back>eminems shitty repetitive same snare and bass beatsshit, rockwilder has the same repetitive style and even his production is better than eminem.watch out this guy knows REAL music....rockwilder and daz dillinger,loldude c'mon i ain't saying em is the best but he's certainly ALOT better musically than some of y'all heros lose yourself>daz/rockwilders' whole career
Quote from: BIGjakeDOGGYdogg on January 20, 2005, 02:18:47 AMi find it funny....no wait commical how people here say eminem is a horrible producer yet LOOOOOVE daz and battlecat. i ain't saying eminem is dr. dre or nothing but he's not even a fifth as bad as y'all make him out to be....some of y'all need to take up an instrument or a music class dont compare eminem to daz ever again, you fucking clown.dogg food and retaliation revenge and get back>eminems shitty repetitive same snare and bass beatsshit, rockwilder has the same repetitive style and even his production is better than eminem.
i find it funny....no wait commical how people here say eminem is a horrible producer yet LOOOOOVE daz and battlecat. i ain't saying eminem is dr. dre or nothing but he's not even a fifth as bad as y'all make him out to be....some of y'all need to take up an instrument or a music class
Quote from: BIGjakeDOGGYdogg on January 29, 2005, 12:16:55 AMQuote from: smartass on January 23, 2005, 11:12:03 AMQuote from: BIGjakeDOGGYdogg on January 20, 2005, 09:49:04 PMQuote from: smartass on January 20, 2005, 10:28:25 AMQuote from: BIGjakeDOGGYdogg on January 20, 2005, 02:18:47 AMi find it funny....no wait commical how people here say eminem is a horrible producer yet LOOOOOVE daz and battlecat. i ain't saying eminem is dr. dre or nothing but he's not even a fifth as bad as y'all make him out to be....some of y'all need to take up an instrument or a music class dont compare eminem to daz ever again, you fucking clown.dogg food and retaliation revenge and get back>eminems shitty repetitive same snare and bass beatsshit, rockwilder has the same repetitive style and even his production is better than eminem.watch out this guy knows REAL music....rockwilder and daz dillinger,loldude c'mon i ain't saying em is the best but he's certainly ALOT better musically than some of y'all heros lose yourself>daz/rockwilders' whole careerthe ramblings of a defeated homosexual. this thread is about production, you blind dickrider.^ a wise man once said "if you have to make personal attacks on someone during a disagreement or argument....you lost the argument"i don't even really like eminem all that much BUT i'll definately give him my props.............when you learn to analyze music you learn to seperate personal bias from the observed quality, learn some musical theory then come back and talk shit about eminem's production style. Until then you're just as foolish as some one saying the beatles suck. you already lost, kid. you tried to make the thread about something completely different(true sign of a dickrider), now that you think i "slipped up", you are going to try and bring it back to production. lol @ analyze music, i dont have to analyze shit when he uses the same snare and dark bass in 99% of his tracks, not to mention the fact that he cant layer for shit. another idiot speaking on something they know nothing about...if you never used an mpc in your life, dont even speak on this topic, for real. the only good track he ever did was the thing for 2pac and biggie, and you know why he did that? he found a good vocal sample to use, and he raised the pitch, yet he still used the same tired bass. wow, great producer!!!! hes gnarly duuuuuuuuude
^ Ok.. so proove it.. make a beat..
he got some hot shyt sometimes but its like he is not as talented to produce a Pac album...50 Cent that would be more like it...when he works with other artist its usually an empty track Nas "the cross", Redman "I C Dead People" empty beats dope loops but it sounds like they were never mixed..its like MTV, XXL, VIBE, write him off as a dope producer and no one goes against the grain and says its wack when it is sometimes, look at "Encore" everyone knows its wack as fuck but evryone owns a copy, and lies about having it, peeps get gassed up with controversy not music....
^ i dont own a copy, and im ebaresed to say its on my ipod tho.. i downloaded it..
This whole argument has got stupid, because for some reason Eminem's apparant "musical" talent is being brought into play, when we were supposed to be discussing his production skills. Producers in other genres don't create the melodies for songs themselves either most of the time. Like when Rick Rubin did that Chilli Peppers album, he just sat and listened to them jam, as then took the best bits, and told them to play this and that together, then switch up to that bit, etc, his main job is to arrange what they play so that it sounds dope. What, therefore is the difference between what he does on a rock record, and what some hiphop producer does. The only difference is that he would take bits from live played music, and a hiphop producer takes the bits they like from old records, and they both then turn these into full tracks. Therefore, Em's supposed "musical" ability shouldn't even be a discussion point in this topic, the only thing we should be discussing is the fact that the large majority of his productions are wack.
Quote from: white boy on January 29, 2005, 10:44:02 AM^ Ok.. so proove it.. make a beat.. I don't work in a professional studio. If I had the equipment even I could sample some old tunes and make beats.