Wade vs Kobe

[OneHittaSpitta]

Who denied what?

so getting rid of Shaq was a good move then? lol

[acbaylove]

Look, if Lakers wanted to win the title, then it's obvious they did a bad move. But they didnt want to win another throphy this year. They just wanted to start a totally new project. They hired a new coach, with a totally different playbook. And they changed all the players but Kobe and 2-3 other bench players. The project i cant judge it after just 1 year. For sure the fact we didnt reach the play offs was hella disappointing. But i wanna see the real project. I'd rather wait another year till Lakers will have a lot of salary cap to see the real project, you know what i mean? If in 2 years Lakers will be contenders, then hell yeah, to get ridd of Shaq's contract was a smart move. But it's just to stupid to judge on the move without judging on a project. Lakers didnt want to win the title with Mihm instead of Shaq, lol.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Who denied what?

so getting rid of Shaq was a good move then? lol

Are we watching the same playoffs? Of course it was a good move...LMAO, Shaq is on a RAPID decline and he wanted half the fuckin teams money... Now it's just Erick Dampier he's comparing himself to, but in a few years he'll be lucky to even be playing 15 minutes for the Raptors...Meanwhile, Kobe will be on top of things, and I'm willing to bet you on that...

[acbaylove]

P.S. Miami without Shaq went to the 2rd round of the play offs, last year. Miami with Shaq went to the 3rd with Shaq injured missing the whole thing. Oh shit, Shaq is the MVP!

[King Of L.A.]

All you Laker/Kobe fans make me sick 

lol @ Canada. When was the last time you guys won a playoff series?? Never now shut the fuck up u canadian piece of shit.

[King Of L.A.]

Who denied what?

so getting rid of Shaq was a good move then? lol

It sure was. Just not for the Players we Recieved in Return. Shaq wanted a $90mill 3 yr Extention to stay. So we would be stuck with him until hes 37. if he can't get a double double in the playsoffs right now at 33 what would he do for us when hes 37? Nothing but Take up our Cap Space. with him asking $30 mill a yr and kobe getting a big contract we would be over the Cap untill shaq retired and we would not have any money to sign anybod good role players. Lakers didn't do this trade to be good this season. they were thinking for the future.

Propz to Antonio, mr Pothead and Now Im Blowed for stickin with their team regardless if they're trash this season. LA will be a playoff team next season with Phil back and some off season moves.  EJ Rizo, feather weight fans like u shouldn't call themselves laker fans.

[hisairness]

Who denied what?

so getting rid of Shaq was a good move then? lol

It sure was. Just not for the Players we Recieved in Return. Shaq wanted a $90mill 3 yr Extention to stay. So we would be stuck with him until hes 37. if he can't get a double double in the playsoffs right now at 33 what would he do for us when hes 37? Nothing but Take up our Cap Space. with him asking $30 mill a yr and kobe getting a big contract we would be over the Cap untill shaq retired and we would not have any money to sign anybod good role players. Lakers didn't do this trade to be good this season. they were thinking for the future.

Propz to Antonio, mr Pothead and Now Im Blowed for stickin with their team regardless if they're trash this season. LA will be a playoff team next season with Phil back and some off season moves.  EJ Rizo, feather weight fans like u shouldn't call themselves laker fans.

I don't have any problems with anybody for sticking with their team.  If anything, it should be respected to stick with your team.  Too many people jumped on the Laker's back when they started winning championships.  The issue is that too many people can't/don't admit the truth.  Did Kobe make mistakes?  Yes.  Why is that so hard to admit for some people.  However, did Shaq make mistakes?  Yes.  Did the Lakers organization make some mistakes?  Yes.  Everybody does, but some people are so far up Kobe's ass, that they just don't admit it. 

Remaining a fan of your team through thick and thin is one thing, not recognizing a mistake is another.  If they hadn't gotten rid of Shaq, they would've at least competed for the remaining three years of his contract.  With just Kobe, it's not gonna happen.  It doesn't matter if all those guys were injured or not.  They were a seventh seed at best and woulda gotten knocked out in the first round anyway. 

[King Of L.A.]

Who denied what?

so getting rid of Shaq was a good move then? lol

It sure was. Just not for the Players we Recieved in Return. Shaq wanted a $90mill 3 yr Extention to stay. So we would be stuck with him until hes 37. if he can't get a double double in the playsoffs right now at 33 what would he do for us when hes 37? Nothing but Take up our Cap Space. with him asking $30 mill a yr and kobe getting a big contract we would be over the Cap untill shaq retired and we would not have any money to sign anybod good role players. Lakers didn't do this trade to be good this season. they were thinking for the future.

Propz to Antonio, mr Pothead and Now Im Blowed for stickin with their team regardless if they're trash this season. LA will be a playoff team next season with Phil back and some off season moves.  EJ Rizo, feather weight fans like u shouldn't call themselves laker fans.

I don't have any problems with anybody for sticking with their team.  If anything, it should be respected to stick with your team.  Too many people jumped on the Laker's back when they started winning championships.  The issue is that too many people can't/don't admit the truth.  Did Kobe make mistakes?  Yes.  Why is that so hard to admit for some people.  However, did Shaq make mistakes?  Yes.  Did the Lakers organization make some mistakes?  Yes.  Everybody does, but some people are so far up Kobe's ass, that they just don't admit it. 

your post has no substances whatsoever. wtf u talkin bout. people having mistakes? this ain't oprah.

[Javier]

GO TO OPRAH!
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GO TO OPRAH!

[hisairness]

Okay.  Good comeback.

The fact is this, people are so far up in Kobe's ass that they can't see that he is a dickhead on/off the court, a bigot, a pain in the ass, a ballhog, etc.

The only time he shares the ball is when the media gets on his ass about it.  In his head, it's all about KoME.  Is he a good player?  Yes.  Is he the best in the league?  No.  Should he have kept his mouth shut about Shaq?  Yes.  That's something he'll be regretting for the rest of his life.  He made a big ass fucking mistake and Kobe fans just won't realize it. 

[Javier]

  Should he have kept his mouth shut about Shaq?  Yes.  . 

And Shaq never said anything to Kobe?  It seem like every fucking day Shaq would diss Kobe and the lakers and even sometimes the fans.  It got pathetic.  Chilish between the two, at least Kobe stopped his dissing but shaq continued.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Seriously...People hate on Kobe just like they hate on me...with no reason. You see, people who know what's up know that Shaq is nothing but a big baby...Hell, that's even his page 2 nickname; The Big Baby...Kobe is now the mature one, while Shaq goes on babbling on about why Kobe is bad, LA is a fake place, and the Lakers are the worst organization in the world, all because he didn't get the king salary he expected...People who hate on Kobe and compliment Shaq are the biggest hypocrits on this planet.

[acbaylove]

Did Kobe make mistakes?  Yes.  did Shaq make mistakes?  Yes.  Did the Lakers organization make some mistakes?  Yes.  Everybody does, but some people are so far up Kobe's ass, that they just don't admit it.

Kobe made mistakes too, obviously. That's not the point, man. We're talking about a longtime project, not about who's better between Shaq and Mihm or Odom, cause it's obvious it's Shaq.

[TobyTizzle]

To the mature young man who came up with 'D. Wack', you sir are my new hero.

Kobe is a better player at this point, but in a season or 2 Wade will be right there with Amare, Lebron, Parker, Ginobili as the superstars of the NBA. To those who said Wade was average before he got with Shaq, did you forget Wade last season, killing it in the playoffs etc as a rookie. Or is it because his name wasnt LBJ or Carmelo?

Wade has true superstar potential, and with the big fella alongside of him he has the opportunity to succeed early in his career. Kobe (innocent or not) will forever be guilty by association. That colorado shit ruined him. Brought down his image 10000%. Probably 50% of the NBA cheat on their wives, Kobe got unlucky it would seem. I dont think his image will ever recover from that, which is a shame. If Wade can keep his slate clean, he could out-do LeBron James. Wade has killer instinct, LeBron hasnt really shown that yet.

Anyways, Kobe vs. Wade is a good discussion, and both players are insane 

[acbaylove]

Wade is from '82. Kobe is from '78. It's not that much difference, man.. In 2 years Kobe will be 29. He can play good basketball till he'll be 32-33, so it's about 5-6 other years.. it's enought time to build a new team around him. Obviously Wade is younger, but in 2 years Miami will have to rebuild a new team around him, cause Shaq will be 35.