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Quote from: $ on September 23, 2005, 04:10:50 PMI never knew Jay-Z got down with reverse racism.It's like if I were to say that Jay shouldn't act white by dressing in suits and go to meetings now that he runs Def Jam.There are whites that bastardize hip hop, but there are blacks that do the same thing too.I never knew that if u wore nice suits and attended meetings u are acting white
I never knew Jay-Z got down with reverse racism.It's like if I were to say that Jay shouldn't act white by dressing in suits and go to meetings now that he runs Def Jam.There are whites that bastardize hip hop, but there are blacks that do the same thing too.
White rappers and producers r doin a betta job than black people anyway, jus look at Scott Storch and JR, eminem, then u look at luda chingy and Nelly?
Quote from: ac1386 on September 25, 2005, 01:26:38 PM if your not ghetto dont be ghetto, just spit what you truly feel and think, and people will connect. Thank you. That shit is so retarded. It seems like every dork, homo and internet geek wants to claim thug shit these days. Its fine to be a dork as long as you dont try to act like somethin else. Just look at Pharrell. He dont try to be no thug. In fact he seems like he takes pride in being the king of the dorks and it loks like its workin out pretty well for him.
if your not ghetto dont be ghetto, just spit what you truly feel and think, and people will connect.
Quote from: Turf Hitta on September 25, 2005, 04:09:51 PMQuote from: ac1386 on September 25, 2005, 01:26:38 PM if your not ghetto dont be ghetto, just spit what you truly feel and think, and people will connect. Thank you. That shit is so retarded. It seems like every dork, homo and internet geek wants to claim thug shit these days. Its fine to be a dork as long as you dont try to act like somethin else. Just look at Pharrell. He dont try to be no thug. In fact he seems like he takes pride in being the king of the dorks and it loks like its workin out pretty well for him.So everyone who isnt a thug is labeled as a dork???Great logic
Quote from: Turf Hitta on September 25, 2005, 04:08:59 AMLOL jesus white kids are sensetive as fuck these days. He obviously dont mind white kids and their white rap too much cause he did a song with eminem. And besides that, someone buying a cd and trying to make one when they got no business doin so is 2 completely different things. lol "give the white kids their money back." Just because you buy rap cds and enjoy the music, you enjoy dressin the part, reading all the mags and shit, that dont mean you got no business tryin to be a rapper. What Jay said was the equivalent of David Stern saying "If you have no background in basketball, you shouldnt be in the NBA." I enjoy watching basketball, I bought some jersies, I go to the games, I watch it on tv, I play NBA Live, so the fuck what? That dont mean I deserve a 72 million dollar contract to play for the Warriors, and since they aint gonna give me a contract does that mean they need to refund meverything I ever spent on basketball? I'm not white so it doesn't do anything to me on a personal level. I hear your point, but the fact is more white people buy rap than black. They are just a bigger audience period. Naturally this is why vanill aice and marky mark had any success whatsoever. Your analogy is flawed because you say they have no business trying to be a rapper..BZZZZ wrong. They can try to be whatever they want. Thats like telling a thug not to try to be a business man. Now if they don't have the marketability (skill, talent, whatever) then they will fail regardless of background and chosen profession. Don't be scurred, they're only white folk.
LOL jesus white kids are sensetive as fuck these days. He obviously dont mind white kids and their white rap too much cause he did a song with eminem. And besides that, someone buying a cd and trying to make one when they got no business doin so is 2 completely different things. lol "give the white kids their money back." Just because you buy rap cds and enjoy the music, you enjoy dressin the part, reading all the mags and shit, that dont mean you got no business tryin to be a rapper. What Jay said was the equivalent of David Stern saying "If you have no background in basketball, you shouldnt be in the NBA." I enjoy watching basketball, I bought some jersies, I go to the games, I watch it on tv, I play NBA Live, so the fuck what? That dont mean I deserve a 72 million dollar contract to play for the Warriors, and since they aint gonna give me a contract does that mean they need to refund meverything I ever spent on basketball?
Background aint important? Well fuck it then, I'm gonna go perform open heart surgery then. The way I see it, if it aint street shit it aint official. Even the party shit used to be street shit. Anything else is an imitation to me. But to each his own. It dont bother me like you think it does, thats just my pennies...
Quote from: Turf Hitta on September 28, 2005, 05:47:45 PMBackground aint important? Well fuck it then, I'm gonna go perform open heart surgery then. The way I see it, if it aint street shit it aint official. Even the party shit used to be street shit. Anything else is an imitation to me. But to each his own. It dont bother me like you think it does, thats just my pennies...I don't understand what you mean when you say not being able to do something if you don't come from it. You say you shouldn't be in the NBA if you don't come from basketball, but if you are a fan and you buy all the merchandise and watch the games, are you saying you have no right playing the game at all?
If you dont get why rap aint official if it aint from the streets, I dont think I got the patience to try to explain it. The heart of the streets is at the heart of rap. Its the essense. Eminem will tell you that. Paul Wall will tell you that. You take the streets away from rap, thats like takin the country out of country music.
Quote from: Shallow on September 28, 2005, 07:26:27 PMQuote from: Turf Hitta on September 28, 2005, 05:47:45 PMBackground aint important? Well fuck it then, I'm gonna go perform open heart surgery then. The way I see it, if it aint street shit it aint official. Even the party shit used to be street shit. Anything else is an imitation to me. But to each his own. It dont bother me like you think it does, thats just my pennies...I don't understand what you mean when you say not being able to do something if you don't come from it. You say you shouldn't be in the NBA if you don't come from basketball, but if you are a fan and you buy all the merchandise and watch the games, are you saying you have no right playing the game at all?Here's what I said. I was talking about Basketball.Quote from: Turf Hitta on September 30, 2005, 01:57:13 PMBeing a fan and purchasing mershandise does not mean you should be participating. Wether they do or not, I really dont give a fuck, but they shouldnt be surprised or offended when they get laughed outta town neither. Here's what you said. How am I putting words in your mouth. I almot got offended by your insults about Elvis and Berry towards me, but I rest at ease knowing you are an idiot who makes no sense. Learn to read fuck head.Quote from: Turf Hitta on September 30, 2005, 01:57:13 PMQuote from: Shallow on September 28, 2005, 07:26:27 PMYou say if it isn't from the streets it isn't official. I don't get that either. Going back to basket ball. Basket Ball was created by a Canadian White guy. Should American Black guys not be able to play it because they don't come from the origin. If they are good then they should be able to showcase their talent.Quote from: Turf Hitta on September 30, 2005, 01:57:13 PMIf you dont get why rap aint official if it aint from the streets, I dont think I got the patience to try to explain it. The heart of the streets is at the heart of rap. Its the essense. Eminem will tell you that. Paul Wall will tell you that. You take the streets away from rap, thats like takin the country out of country music.I'm not arguing that rap isn't from the streets now. I'm arguing why it has to be. Go back20 years and you'll hear major rappers claim that it has tobe from New York, and if it's not it's not real. The LA scene was hated on by New York. Now I understand saying something like you shouldn't act like your from the streets if you aren't, but if some white kid from Ohio wants to gt into music and use samples and a drum machine to make the track like Kraftwerk and Pink Floyd used to in thr late 60s early 70s, and then rhyme very fast over that track like Bob Dylan in the 60s or Aerosmith in the '70s, or even like Gilbert and Sullivan did in the 1890s, then I don't see how that would be a problem.Quote from: Turf Hitta on September 30, 2005, 01:57:13 PMYou're acting like I said white kids should not participate and thats not what I said. I actually like some of the stuff that the beastie boys and mc serch's of the world have contibuted, but they were not acting like something they weren't or jumping on the bandwagon or just trying to get bitches or none of that type of shit. So by this token you don't like the majority of black rappers who pretend to be something just to make money. Dre was no gangster, he admitted so. Jay Z changes a bit everytime the scene changes. Just wondering if you are consistent.Now look at Rick Rubin. He was a very big force in rap for a long time. He wasn't from the streets, and he's doneeverything from metal, to funk, to country, and he gets respected in each. Why should we have to label someone and stick them in that label for life.Quote from: Turf Hitta on September 30, 2005, 01:57:13 PMQuote from: Shallow on September 28, 2005, 07:26:27 PMI just hopeJay Z realizes that if it weren't for white people with no knowledge of hip hop or the street culture using their dollars and marketing techniques that Jay would still be selling drugs on a street corner.Quote from: Turf Hitta on September 30, 2005, 01:57:13 PMOff top, jay z didnt say he dont want white people to rap. 2nd, can someone explain to me why everybody keeps bringing up this non-point about white kids buying rap? We all know this shit, but that dont mean that a gang of B-Rad's should be turnin rap into a joke. Fuck it though, it is what it is.I was talking about White record execs, who know nothing about rap, pouring money into rap to make it commercial.
Being a fan and purchasing mershandise does not mean you should be participating. Wether they do or not, I really dont give a fuck, but they shouldnt be surprised or offended when they get laughed outta town neither.
Quote from: Shallow on September 28, 2005, 07:26:27 PMYou say if it isn't from the streets it isn't official. I don't get that either. Going back to basket ball. Basket Ball was created by a Canadian White guy. Should American Black guys not be able to play it because they don't come from the origin. If they are good then they should be able to showcase their talent.Quote from: Turf Hitta on September 30, 2005, 01:57:13 PMIf you dont get why rap aint official if it aint from the streets, I dont think I got the patience to try to explain it. The heart of the streets is at the heart of rap. Its the essense. Eminem will tell you that. Paul Wall will tell you that. You take the streets away from rap, thats like takin the country out of country music.I'm not arguing that rap isn't from the streets now. I'm arguing why it has to be. Go back20 years and you'll hear major rappers claim that it has tobe from New York, and if it's not it's not real. The LA scene was hated on by New York. Now I understand saying something like you shouldn't act like your from the streets if you aren't, but if some white kid from Ohio wants to gt into music and use samples and a drum machine to make the track like Kraftwerk and Pink Floyd used to in thr late 60s early 70s, and then rhyme very fast over that track like Bob Dylan in the 60s or Aerosmith in the '70s, or even like Gilbert and Sullivan did in the 1890s, then I don't see how that would be a problem.Quote from: Turf Hitta on September 30, 2005, 01:57:13 PMYou're acting like I said white kids should not participate and thats not what I said. I actually like some of the stuff that the beastie boys and mc serch's of the world have contibuted, but they were not acting like something they weren't or jumping on the bandwagon or just trying to get bitches or none of that type of shit. So by this token you don't like the majority of black rappers who pretend to be something just to make money. Dre was no gangster, he admitted so. Jay Z changes a bit everytime the scene changes. Just wondering if you are consistent.Now look at Rick Rubin. He was a very big force in rap for a long time. He wasn't from the streets, and he's doneeverything from metal, to funk, to country, and he gets respected in each. Why should we have to label someone and stick them in that label for life.Quote from: Turf Hitta on September 30, 2005, 01:57:13 PMQuote from: Shallow on September 28, 2005, 07:26:27 PMI just hopeJay Z realizes that if it weren't for white people with no knowledge of hip hop or the street culture using their dollars and marketing techniques that Jay would still be selling drugs on a street corner.Quote from: Turf Hitta on September 30, 2005, 01:57:13 PMOff top, jay z didnt say he dont want white people to rap. 2nd, can someone explain to me why everybody keeps bringing up this non-point about white kids buying rap? We all know this shit, but that dont mean that a gang of B-Rad's should be turnin rap into a joke. Fuck it though, it is what it is.I was talking about White record execs, who know nothing about rap, pouring money into rap to make it commercial.
You say if it isn't from the streets it isn't official. I don't get that either. Going back to basket ball. Basket Ball was created by a Canadian White guy. Should American Black guys not be able to play it because they don't come from the origin. If they are good then they should be able to showcase their talent.
You're acting like I said white kids should not participate and thats not what I said. I actually like some of the stuff that the beastie boys and mc serch's of the world have contibuted, but they were not acting like something they weren't or jumping on the bandwagon or just trying to get bitches or none of that type of shit.
Quote from: Shallow on September 28, 2005, 07:26:27 PMI just hopeJay Z realizes that if it weren't for white people with no knowledge of hip hop or the street culture using their dollars and marketing techniques that Jay would still be selling drugs on a street corner.Quote from: Turf Hitta on September 30, 2005, 01:57:13 PMOff top, jay z didnt say he dont want white people to rap. 2nd, can someone explain to me why everybody keeps bringing up this non-point about white kids buying rap? We all know this shit, but that dont mean that a gang of B-Rad's should be turnin rap into a joke. Fuck it though, it is what it is.I was talking about White record execs, who know nothing about rap, pouring money into rap to make it commercial.
I just hopeJay Z realizes that if it weren't for white people with no knowledge of hip hop or the street culture using their dollars and marketing techniques that Jay would still be selling drugs on a street corner.
Off top, jay z didnt say he dont want white people to rap. 2nd, can someone explain to me why everybody keeps bringing up this non-point about white kids buying rap? We all know this shit, but that dont mean that a gang of B-Rad's should be turnin rap into a joke. Fuck it though, it is what it is.
Quote from: Shallow on September 28, 2005, 07:26:27 PMYou say if it isn't from the streets it isn't official. I don't get that either. Going back to basket ball. Basket Ball was created by a Canadian White guy. Should American Black guys not be able to play it because they don't come from the origin. If they are good then they should be able to showcase their talent.Quote from: Turf Hitta on September 30, 2005, 01:57:13 PMIf you dont get why rap aint official if it aint from the streets, I dont think I got the patience to try to explain it. The heart of the streets is at the heart of rap. Its the essense. Eminem will tell you that. Paul Wall will tell you that. You take the streets away from rap, thats like takin the country out of country music.
Quote from: Shallow on September 28, 2005, 07:26:27 PMI just hopeJay Z realizes that if it weren't for white people with no knowledge of hip hop or the street culture using their dollars and marketing techniques that Jay would still be selling drugs on a street corner.Quote from: Turf Hitta on September 30, 2005, 01:57:13 PMOff top, jay z didnt say he dont want white people to rap. 2nd, can someone explain to me why everybody keeps bringing up this non-point about white kids buying rap? We all know this shit, but that dont mean that a gang of B-Rad's should be turnin rap into a joke. Fuck it though, it is what it is.