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Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 22, 2005, 10:29:37 PMQuote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 22, 2005, 12:46:37 PMQuote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 22, 2005, 11:37:24 AMQuote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 22, 2005, 02:19:27 AMHow come you find the Zionist agenda to be foul and terroristic yet you do not find the Palestinian self determination as terroristic? They've openly used terrorism, plus they weren't even a nation untill they felt like they had to obstruct the creation of a Jewish state, I can't believe you simply choose to ignore this,I mean this is your double standard again, you make all these airy claims about Zionism claiming to know so much more than I do about it when in reality it was diverse as a movement. If annihilation of Palestinians was even an option how come the local population was offered equal rights in this Jewish state?. The fact Theodore Herzel contributed some of his ideas to the early Zionists does not mean he was "Zionism" and these quotes of his you mentioned were idealogical foundation to the guys that later became our left wing, the ones who focused on the so called "returning land in exchange for peace" which is majorly flawed in my opinion.p.s Zionism may have been formally coined in 1896, since the first congress was held in Bazzel in 1897 by Herzel, you got that right, but the idea itself travels back to the start of the Jewish diaspora and had also surfaced in the 16th and 17th centuries, and there would be no congress if it hadn't been a wide spread idea among Jews by that time.LMAO... you don't even know what self-determination is, do you? It's not a Palestinian thing... as a matter of fact, the Jews demanding a homeland in Palestine could be described as self-determination. And why in God's name do you think I chose to compare Self Determination to Zionism, Mr Genius?...lol...Funny guy you are mate. Connecting the dots for you officially seems now like the right thing to do. Any genetic predisposition to dyslexia?p.s And as for my "potential terrorists" comment here is a little elaboration for you so that you won't be able to apply any more of your smart ass remarks - Potential Palestinian Terrorists that operate under the agenda of Hamas, Jihad, Hizballah or any other Arab terrorist group. I just can't help but wondering how these terrorists justify and rationalize their actions because they can't obviously deny Israel's existence as a state since they have Israeli citizenship and they grew up in Israel.Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 21, 2005, 12:55:37 PMYour seem to have ignored my previous post entirely.Sherlock, I know you're dumb, but you honestly can't be this dumb. I know you compared self-determination to Zionism, and I said that Zionism could be compared to self-determination... BUT you're missing the main point and that is... (So you conclude that I don't know what Self Determination is? - lol-Your statements are amazingly correlated...lol...And I'm the one with damaged logic?...This is when I'd be saying "I rest my case" but eyes need to be opened and dots need to be connected . I've already stated that Zionism is an ideal, ideals become agendas and many different people have their own takes on how to carry out the same agendas. I've also mentioned that the transfer idealogy was never carried out. Military actions however weren't first initiated by Israel at the dawn of this conflict and on Israel's behalf military actions were merely a reaction and a notion of self protection and protection of the Zionist dream- Yes, early Zionists did foresee this turn of events (And that's why they had a number of presumable courses of action) but the fact Palestinians were offered equal rights within this state only showes Zionists wanted to resolve this otherwise,while exhibiting great sensitivity to how these locals where manipulated from outside, not to mention that the Palestinian Self Determination was a new movement among the Palestinians since they had never striven to found their own state before the Zionists, since they didn't even consider themselves a nation...lol I feel like I'm repeating myself. Zionists took down two mandates off this land on their way to their goal, where were the Palestinians with their Self Determination at the time of the mandates? I believe that the spirit of compromise of the early Zionists toward the Palestinians contrary to the lack of compromise toward the mandates, played a great role in the development of this feud.
Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 22, 2005, 12:46:37 PMQuote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 22, 2005, 11:37:24 AMQuote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 22, 2005, 02:19:27 AMHow come you find the Zionist agenda to be foul and terroristic yet you do not find the Palestinian self determination as terroristic? They've openly used terrorism, plus they weren't even a nation untill they felt like they had to obstruct the creation of a Jewish state, I can't believe you simply choose to ignore this,I mean this is your double standard again, you make all these airy claims about Zionism claiming to know so much more than I do about it when in reality it was diverse as a movement. If annihilation of Palestinians was even an option how come the local population was offered equal rights in this Jewish state?. The fact Theodore Herzel contributed some of his ideas to the early Zionists does not mean he was "Zionism" and these quotes of his you mentioned were idealogical foundation to the guys that later became our left wing, the ones who focused on the so called "returning land in exchange for peace" which is majorly flawed in my opinion.p.s Zionism may have been formally coined in 1896, since the first congress was held in Bazzel in 1897 by Herzel, you got that right, but the idea itself travels back to the start of the Jewish diaspora and had also surfaced in the 16th and 17th centuries, and there would be no congress if it hadn't been a wide spread idea among Jews by that time.LMAO... you don't even know what self-determination is, do you? It's not a Palestinian thing... as a matter of fact, the Jews demanding a homeland in Palestine could be described as self-determination. And why in God's name do you think I chose to compare Self Determination to Zionism, Mr Genius?...lol...Funny guy you are mate. Connecting the dots for you officially seems now like the right thing to do. Any genetic predisposition to dyslexia?p.s And as for my "potential terrorists" comment here is a little elaboration for you so that you won't be able to apply any more of your smart ass remarks - Potential Palestinian Terrorists that operate under the agenda of Hamas, Jihad, Hizballah or any other Arab terrorist group. I just can't help but wondering how these terrorists justify and rationalize their actions because they can't obviously deny Israel's existence as a state since they have Israeli citizenship and they grew up in Israel.Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 21, 2005, 12:55:37 PMYour seem to have ignored my previous post entirely.Sherlock, I know you're dumb, but you honestly can't be this dumb. I know you compared self-determination to Zionism, and I said that Zionism could be compared to self-determination... BUT you're missing the main point and that is... (
Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 22, 2005, 11:37:24 AMQuote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 22, 2005, 02:19:27 AMHow come you find the Zionist agenda to be foul and terroristic yet you do not find the Palestinian self determination as terroristic? They've openly used terrorism, plus they weren't even a nation untill they felt like they had to obstruct the creation of a Jewish state, I can't believe you simply choose to ignore this,I mean this is your double standard again, you make all these airy claims about Zionism claiming to know so much more than I do about it when in reality it was diverse as a movement. If annihilation of Palestinians was even an option how come the local population was offered equal rights in this Jewish state?. The fact Theodore Herzel contributed some of his ideas to the early Zionists does not mean he was "Zionism" and these quotes of his you mentioned were idealogical foundation to the guys that later became our left wing, the ones who focused on the so called "returning land in exchange for peace" which is majorly flawed in my opinion.p.s Zionism may have been formally coined in 1896, since the first congress was held in Bazzel in 1897 by Herzel, you got that right, but the idea itself travels back to the start of the Jewish diaspora and had also surfaced in the 16th and 17th centuries, and there would be no congress if it hadn't been a wide spread idea among Jews by that time.LMAO... you don't even know what self-determination is, do you? It's not a Palestinian thing... as a matter of fact, the Jews demanding a homeland in Palestine could be described as self-determination. And why in God's name do you think I chose to compare Self Determination to Zionism, Mr Genius?...lol...Funny guy you are mate. Connecting the dots for you officially seems now like the right thing to do. Any genetic predisposition to dyslexia?p.s And as for my "potential terrorists" comment here is a little elaboration for you so that you won't be able to apply any more of your smart ass remarks - Potential Palestinian Terrorists that operate under the agenda of Hamas, Jihad, Hizballah or any other Arab terrorist group. I just can't help but wondering how these terrorists justify and rationalize their actions because they can't obviously deny Israel's existence as a state since they have Israeli citizenship and they grew up in Israel.
Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 22, 2005, 02:19:27 AMHow come you find the Zionist agenda to be foul and terroristic yet you do not find the Palestinian self determination as terroristic? They've openly used terrorism, plus they weren't even a nation untill they felt like they had to obstruct the creation of a Jewish state, I can't believe you simply choose to ignore this,I mean this is your double standard again, you make all these airy claims about Zionism claiming to know so much more than I do about it when in reality it was diverse as a movement. If annihilation of Palestinians was even an option how come the local population was offered equal rights in this Jewish state?. The fact Theodore Herzel contributed some of his ideas to the early Zionists does not mean he was "Zionism" and these quotes of his you mentioned were idealogical foundation to the guys that later became our left wing, the ones who focused on the so called "returning land in exchange for peace" which is majorly flawed in my opinion.p.s Zionism may have been formally coined in 1896, since the first congress was held in Bazzel in 1897 by Herzel, you got that right, but the idea itself travels back to the start of the Jewish diaspora and had also surfaced in the 16th and 17th centuries, and there would be no congress if it hadn't been a wide spread idea among Jews by that time.LMAO... you don't even know what self-determination is, do you? It's not a Palestinian thing... as a matter of fact, the Jews demanding a homeland in Palestine could be described as self-determination.
How come you find the Zionist agenda to be foul and terroristic yet you do not find the Palestinian self determination as terroristic? They've openly used terrorism, plus they weren't even a nation untill they felt like they had to obstruct the creation of a Jewish state, I can't believe you simply choose to ignore this,I mean this is your double standard again, you make all these airy claims about Zionism claiming to know so much more than I do about it when in reality it was diverse as a movement. If annihilation of Palestinians was even an option how come the local population was offered equal rights in this Jewish state?. The fact Theodore Herzel contributed some of his ideas to the early Zionists does not mean he was "Zionism" and these quotes of his you mentioned were idealogical foundation to the guys that later became our left wing, the ones who focused on the so called "returning land in exchange for peace" which is majorly flawed in my opinion.p.s Zionism may have been formally coined in 1896, since the first congress was held in Bazzel in 1897 by Herzel, you got that right, but the idea itself travels back to the start of the Jewish diaspora and had also surfaced in the 16th and 17th centuries, and there would be no congress if it hadn't been a wide spread idea among Jews by that time.
Your seem to have ignored my previous post entirely.
my throat hurts, its hard to swallow, and my body feels like i got a serious ass beating.
Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 22, 2005, 11:37:24 AMQuote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 22, 2005, 02:19:27 AMThe term Zionism was coined in 1890/1891 by an Austrian author1893 in fact by Nathan Birnbaum Jewish Austrian author. Forgot to comment on this.
Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 22, 2005, 02:19:27 AMThe term Zionism was coined in 1890/1891 by an Austrian author
This guy never gets itI To Tha GeezyMissing the point since 2001.
Nice job ignoring your contradictions, keep it up. And thank you Tech, maybe the moment Propaganda victims get reinforced by their likes they calm down.
Quote from: King Techniec on October 23, 2005, 11:20:47 PMThis guy never gets itI To Tha GeezyMissing the point since 2001.LOL... he's a lost cause... if only he knew what the argument at hand was... I wish I was fluent in Hebrew, maybe then he'd understand... anyways, you were done and over with a long time ago... you just keep coming back like I stole something...Zionism can't succeed without killing innocent people and removing people off their lands... what right does Israel have to go into Palestinian territory, bulldoze homes, kill people, cut down trees they depend on, etc? Zionism = Fucked up.You can't deny that, so you bring that jumble... I already said I don't give a shit what your History books say... keep it for someone who cares... I know the truth well enough not to fall for that b.s... I see a wall, people like you tell me it's a fence.. it's 30 times larger than the Berlin Wall, but ythey still claim it's a fence... retards.
Quote from: Don Rizzle on May 10, 2006, 03:16:12 AMiraq would just get annexed by iranThat would be a great solution. If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
iraq would just get annexed by iran
Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 12:15:22 AMNice job ignoring your contradictions, keep it up. And thank you Tech, maybe the moment Propaganda victims get reinforced by their likes they calm down.LOL... nice job ignoring the entire argument and your flip-flopping... LOL @ propaganda victims coming from the guy who blindly supports the regime that calls a wall 30 times larger than the Berlin Wall a fence.... we won't even talk about actions it has taken (Lavon Affair ) Now go read your history books written by Zionists.
Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 12:35:17 AMQuote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 12:15:22 AMNice job ignoring your contradictions, keep it up. And thank you Tech, maybe the moment Propaganda victims get reinforced by their likes they calm down.LOL... nice job ignoring the entire argument and your flip-flopping... LOL @ propaganda victims coming from the guy who blindly supports the regime that calls a wall 30 times larger than the Berlin Wall a fence.... we won't even talk about actions it has taken (Lavon Affair ) Now go read your history books written by Zionists.lol And you've called me brainwashed even though I've told you that I'm against this fence. Damn, so thick headed and blind to the facts, you really frustrate me homie.
Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 04:32:41 AMQuote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 12:35:17 AMQuote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 12:15:22 AMNice job ignoring your contradictions, keep it up. And thank you Tech, maybe the moment Propaganda victims get reinforced by their likes they calm down.LOL... nice job ignoring the entire argument and your flip-flopping... LOL @ propaganda victims coming from the guy who blindly supports the regime that calls a wall 30 times larger than the Berlin Wall a fence.... we won't even talk about actions it has taken (Lavon Affair ) Now go read your history books written by Zionists.lol And you've called me brainwashed even though I've told you that I'm against this fence. Damn, so thick headed and blind to the facts, you really frustrate me homie.I can understand you being frustrated... I would be too if I didn't know what the fuck was going on and I got involved in some argument with someone I can't bullshit. Anyways, this and you are over. Peace.
Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 10:38:26 AMQuote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 04:32:41 AMQuote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 12:35:17 AMQuote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 12:15:22 AMNice job ignoring your contradictions, keep it up. And thank you Tech, maybe the moment Propaganda victims get reinforced by their likes they calm down.LOL... nice job ignoring the entire argument and your flip-flopping... LOL @ propaganda victims coming from the guy who blindly supports the regime that calls a wall 30 times larger than the Berlin Wall a fence.... we won't even talk about actions it has taken (Lavon Affair ) Now go read your history books written by Zionists.lol And you've called me brainwashed even though I've told you that I'm against this fence. Damn, so thick headed and blind to the facts, you really frustrate me homie.I can understand you being frustrated... I would be too if I didn't know what the fuck was going on and I got involved in some argument with someone I can't bullshit. Anyways, this and you are over. Peace.I could go on for days pointing out facts and refuting your ungrounded statements but what good does talking to a wall?Good luck, hope your self-persuasion works out for you, you're a lucky dude if you can live in peace with yourself without minding reality.
Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 12:24:43 PMQuote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 10:38:26 AMQuote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 04:32:41 AMQuote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 12:35:17 AMQuote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 12:15:22 AMNice job ignoring your contradictions, keep it up. And thank you Tech, maybe the moment Propaganda victims get reinforced by their likes they calm down.LOL... nice job ignoring the entire argument and your flip-flopping... LOL @ propaganda victims coming from the guy who blindly supports the regime that calls a wall 30 times larger than the Berlin Wall a fence.... we won't even talk about actions it has taken (Lavon Affair ) Now go read your history books written by Zionists.lol And you've called me brainwashed even though I've told you that I'm against this fence. Damn, so thick headed and blind to the facts, you really frustrate me homie.I can understand you being frustrated... I would be too if I didn't know what the fuck was going on and I got involved in some argument with someone I can't bullshit. Anyways, this and you are over. Peace.I could go on for days pointing out facts and refuting your ungrounded statements but what good does talking to a wall?Good luck, hope your self-persuasion works out for you, you're a lucky dude if you can live in peace with yourself without minding reality.Says the guy who supports the government with over 60 UN resolutions against it... the government that kills off innocent people... the government that bulldozes the homes of innocent people... the government that illegally occupies the land of others... the government that attacks U.S. navy vessels hoping that the blame will be put on someone else.... LOL.. yeah, I'm not minding reality. Good luck, hope your ignorance works out for you, you're a lucky dude if you can live in peace with yourself without minding the truth.
Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 11:18:28 PMQuote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 12:24:43 PMQuote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 10:38:26 AMQuote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 04:32:41 AMQuote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 24, 2005, 12:35:17 AMQuote from: I TO DA GEEZY on October 24, 2005, 12:15:22 AMNice job ignoring your contradictions, keep it up. And thank you Tech, maybe the moment Propaganda victims get reinforced by their likes they calm down.LOL... nice job ignoring the entire argument and your flip-flopping... LOL @ propaganda victims coming from the guy who blindly supports the regime that calls a wall 30 times larger than the Berlin Wall a fence.... we won't even talk about actions it has taken (Lavon Affair ) Now go read your history books written by Zionists.lol And you've called me brainwashed even though I've told you that I'm against this fence. Damn, so thick headed and blind to the facts, you really frustrate me homie.I can understand you being frustrated... I would be too if I didn't know what the fuck was going on and I got involved in some argument with someone I can't bullshit. Anyways, this and you are over. Peace.I could go on for days pointing out facts and refuting your ungrounded statements but what good does talking to a wall?Good luck, hope your self-persuasion works out for you, you're a lucky dude if you can live in peace with yourself without minding reality.Says the guy who supports the government with over 60 UN resolutions against it... the government that kills off innocent people... the government that bulldozes the homes of innocent people... the government that illegally occupies the land of others... the government that attacks U.S. navy vessels hoping that the blame will be put on someone else.... LOL.. yeah, I'm not minding reality. Good luck, hope your ignorance works out for you, you're a lucky dude if you can live in peace with yourself without minding the truth. I never knew it was the "government" bulldozing homes and killing innocent people, I thought it was the Israeli soldiers performing these actions. Oh wait, it was..."Government" does not approve the killings of innocent people, I Geezy has been saying that...