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Re: EU slams Israel for its policies in East Jerusalem
« Reply #60 on: November 29, 2005, 01:18:52 PM »
^ LMAO... you're done... do yourself a favor and save yourself the embarassment...
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Re: EU slams Israel for its policies in East Jerusalem
« Reply #61 on: November 29, 2005, 01:25:39 PM »
Since you care about Muslims who have died.. don't forget the many Muslims that died fighting the Zionist colonialist terrorists... and still to this day die fighting this occupation...

Is this your way of referencing the so called 'Palestinian Freedom Fighters'?
Because most of these guys kinda like to kill themselves.


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Re: EU slams Israel for its policies in East Jerusalem
« Reply #62 on: November 29, 2005, 01:34:33 PM »
Since you care about Muslims who have died.. don't forget the many Muslims that died fighting the Zionist colonialist terrorists... and still to this day die fighting this occupation...

Is this your way of referencing the so called 'Palestinian Freedom Fighters'?
Because most of these guys kinda like to kill themselves.

Yeah... like that 10 year old girl who got capped 17 times... you've been done with, you made yourself look like a retard, it's over, don't keep embarassing yourself... go buy yourself something at the local falafel stand
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Re: EU slams Israel for its policies in East Jerusalem
« Reply #63 on: November 29, 2005, 02:12:30 PM »

Since you care about Muslims who have died.. don't forget the many Muslims that died fighting the Zionist colonialist terrorists... and still to this day die fighting this occupation...

You mean the ones who blow up discos filled with teenage kids?
 

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Re: EU slams Israel for its policies in East Jerusalem
« Reply #64 on: November 29, 2005, 05:18:25 PM »

Since you care about Muslims who have died.. don't forget the many Muslims that died fighting the Zionist colonialist terrorists... and still to this day die fighting this occupation...

You mean the ones who blow up discos filled with teenage kids?

Yeah... those and only those...

Anyways, you're way beneath my level... as I've proven numerous times.. so just go watch your interracial porn and hate the world for your small dick
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Re: EU slams Israel for its policies in East Jerusalem
« Reply #65 on: November 30, 2005, 08:14:32 AM »
don't forget the many Muslims that died fighting the Zionist colonialist terrorists...


Yeah... like that 10 year old girl who got capped 17 times


And I thought we were talking about Muslims that died fighting! Again your statements are amazingly correlated!
Suddenly a 13 year old girl that surprisingly wasn't used by terrorists to transport explosives(like at previous times) and was killed due to unjustifiable malpractice(even under such circumstances under which the IDF was forced to operate due to unjustifiable support of terrorism on behalf of the Palestinian leadership like my sig states) EQUALS to Pallestinian Suicide bombers that intentionally infiltrate Israeli territory to kill as many civilians(and children among them to which you seem to have much less sympathy) as possible...Please go on, insult me if that's how you blow off steam due to the inner tensions raised while defending your pattern(of misconceptions), I don't dislike you or anything man, I just think you're a sad dude.

You've once again admitted that such concepts as terrorism and justice are synonymous to you while even daring to equalize an innocent girl to a suicide bomber<<this is what I call propaganda.

I wish you all the luck with your views.
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Re: EU slams Israel for its policies in East Jerusalem
« Reply #66 on: November 30, 2005, 09:24:27 AM »
Their existence... prior to Herzl making it an organized movement. Are you really this fucking dumb? The ideology already existed... the beliefs in this mission were already there... it was just organized into a movement a little later... I honestly can't believe you're this dumb.

The ideology and the movement existed prior to Herzel, your article claimed that the so called 'founder of Zionism' had an agenda against the Arab population, in other words(Again since you're not willing to logically connect two pieces of disinformation you yourself brought) it said:'Zionism was against the Arab population from its start' which is propaganda bullshit and the Problem is:

1.Herzel wasn't the start(or 'founder') of Zionism  2.His statement had no affect on a movement that existed prior to his political role and this statement.


(*Herzel did contribute to coordination between Zionists throughout Europe at the end of the 19th century but in no way was he the idealogical blackboard of Zionism nor was he the one to set tactical goals, in fact, Theodore Herzel knew very little about what was going on in Eretz Yisrael at his time. Zionist movements existed prior to Herzel. Even later Zionism would never become a monolithic movement but was, in fact, diverse and democratic.)



Educated local Arabs years later would define Zionism as "a companion to the Arab nationalist movement".

Last try to clarify. You can go back to clouding the discussion now.


P.S 1. Should we quote a few practical people now that held themselves responsible for Palestinian Self Determination? Should we maybe look at the Phased Plan again?
 2.In case you don't know, Absentee Landlords(As distinguished from the refugees' Absentee properties issue...lol) -Wealthy Arabs from Egypt,Syria etc that owned land within  Eretz     Yisrael\Palestine, what's the problem in purchasing land from them?
       3.The local Arab farmers, that were employed by these wealthy Arabs, never owned any of the land and never purchased any, Jews did.
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Re: EU slams Israel for its policies in East Jerusalem
« Reply #67 on: December 01, 2005, 11:17:18 PM »
Since you care about Muslims who have died.. don't forget the many Muslims that died fighting the Zionist colonialist terrorists... and still to this day die fighting this occupation...

Is this your way of referencing the so called 'Palestinian Freedom Fighters'?
Because most of these guys kinda like to kill themselves.

Yeah... like that 10 year old girl who got capped 17 times... you've been done with, you made yourself look like a retard, it's over, don't keep embarassing yourself... go buy yourself something at the local falafel stand

Go look up the word sarcasm in the dictionary... or at least quote the entire thing...
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Re: EU slams Israel for its policies in East Jerusalem
« Reply #68 on: December 01, 2005, 11:25:27 PM »
Their existence... prior to Herzl making it an organized movement. Are you really this fucking dumb? The ideology already existed... the beliefs in this mission were already there... it was just organized into a movement a little later... I honestly can't believe you're this dumb.

The ideology and the movement existed prior to Herzel, your article claimed that the so called 'founder of Zionism' had an agenda against the Arab population, in other words(Again since you're not willing to logically connect two pieces of disinformation you yourself brought) it said:'Zionism was against the Arab population from its start' which is propaganda bullshit and the Problem is:

1.Herzel wasn't the start(or 'founder') of Zionism  2.His statement had no affect on a movement that existed prior to his political role and this statement.


(*Herzel did contribute to coordination between Zionists throughout Europe at the end of the 19th century but in no way was he the idealogical blackboard of Zionism nor was he the one to set tactical goals, in fact, Theodore Herzel knew very little about what was going on in Eretz Yisrael at his time. Zionist movements existed prior to Herzel. Even later Zionism would never become a monolithic movement but was, in fact, diverse and democratic.)



Educated local Arabs years later would define Zionism as "a companion to the Arab nationalist movement".

Last try to clarify. You can go back to clouding the discussion now.


P.S 1. Should we quote a few practical people now that held themselves responsible for Palestinian Self Determination? Should we maybe look at the Phased Plan again?
 2.In case you don't know, Absentee Landlords(As distinguished from the refugees' Absentee properties issue...lol) -Wealthy Arabs from Egypt,Syria etc that owned land within  Eretz     Yisrael\Palestine, what's the problem in purchasing land from them?
       3.The local Arab farmers, that were employed by these wealthy Arabs, never owned any of the land and never purchased any, Jews did.

The famous Jewish philosopher Martin Buber related in his memoirs: “When Max Nordau, Herzl’s second in command, first received details on the existence of an Arab population in Palestine, he came shocked to Herzl exclaiming: ‘I never realized this--we are committing an injustice.’”

LOL.. it's just funny how they admit it themselves, yet you try to deny it for them on their behalf... you have issues.
Zionists have themselves admitted that the only way they can accomplish their goal is through force, the removal of the indigenous population, etc... it was a colonialist movement... if you don't think so, look at the present time and the illegal settlements in the occupied territories.. which violate international law... you have nothing to ground your argument on...

It's like me trying to defend the Iranian leader's statements and saying "he didn't mean it.. he was kidding... he doesn't know what's going on"....

You've been over with... why do you keep coming back like an abused wife... you already embarassed yourself with your retarded statements... just go get yourself some falafel... better have it delivered though.

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Re: EU slams Israel for its policies in East Jerusalem
« Reply #69 on: December 01, 2005, 11:45:24 PM »
Since you care about Muslims who have died.. don't forget the many Muslims that died fighting the Zionist colonialist terrorists... and still to this day die fighting this occupation...

Nice way to promote anti-Israeli propaganda and then back down from it as soon as you're exposed, this way you can both say something morally unspeakable and yet remain the politically correct countenance of justice.

Try answering me:


1. Do you support Palestinian 'Freedom fighters'(Name factions and groups)?
2. Who are these Muslims you were talking about in the quote above(the ones that died 'fighting Zionism', according to you)?
3.Are they^ victims of Zionism?


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Re: EU slams Israel for its policies in East Jerusalem
« Reply #70 on: December 02, 2005, 12:06:10 AM »
The famous Jewish philosopher Martin Buber related in his memoirs: “When Max Nordau, Herzl’s second in command, first received details on the existence of an Arab population in Palestine, he came shocked to Herzl exclaiming: ‘I never realized this--we are committing an injustice.’”

Proving my point again.
Do you see where this whole "Land with no people" thing was coming from now? Do you see now how little Herzel knew about the situation in Eretz Yisrael?
You said it yourself. Only that Zionists were already active by that time without being taught as for the "expropriation of the penniless" and without being opposed up untill after the end of WW1 and due to the influence of the Balfour Declaration.



P.S If Palestinian Arabs were so much against colonialism why didn't they proclaim their nationalism throughout the mandates? Don't you find it wierd that some have decided to oppose Zionism
when they didn't mind powerfull empires oppressing them? Don't you realize that the only chance for Palestinian Arabs to achieve national goals was the Zionist movement (they didn't even see themselves as a nation prior to Zionism)?Familiar with the term "Political hitchhiking"-What pushed them from being passive beholders at the mandates to seeking self-determination(Due to which active force?)? Do you understand now the whole- Zionism as "a companion to the Arab nationalist movement"- thing? In other words, those who chose to oppose Zionism were the ones who first used the Zionist movement to proclaim their 'national goals' and the ones that wanted to get rid of it as soon as the Zionists could obstruct the annexation of the land to the rest of the Arab world.
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Re: EU slams Israel for its policies in East Jerusalem
« Reply #71 on: December 02, 2005, 12:58:47 AM »
niggaz be on some victim shit
nigga who the fuck iz u???
 

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Re: EU slams Israel for its policies in East Jerusalem
« Reply #72 on: December 02, 2005, 01:07:43 AM »
The famous Jewish philosopher Martin Buber related in his memoirs: “When Max Nordau, Herzl’s second in command, first received details on the existence of an Arab population in Palestine, he came shocked to Herzl exclaiming: ‘I never realized this--we are committing an injustice.’”

Proving my point again.
Do you see where this whole "Land with no people" thing was coming from now? Do you see now how little Herzel knew about the situation in Eretz Yisrael?
You said it yourself. Only that Zionists were already active by that time without being taught as for the "expropriation of the penniless" and without being opposed up untill after the end of WW1 and due to the influence of the Balfour Declaration.


LOL. Thank you. Injustice it is. That's all I needed to hear (or not hear... since you are still too blind or dumb to see that it was and to this day is an injustice... even though Zionist leaders themselves have admitted that it is).


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Re: EU slams Israel for its policies in East Jerusalem
« Reply #73 on: December 02, 2005, 01:20:39 AM »
lol... I feel real bad doing this to you but you need to see this:


“When Max Nordau, Herzl’s second in command, first received details on the existence of an Arab population in Palestine, he came shocked to Herzl exclaiming: ‘I never realized this--we are committing an injustice.’”

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Brainwashed? Coming from the guy who said that the "Land without a People for a People without a Land" was truly believed... LMAO.

So if he first found out there was an Arab population was it("Land without a people...") or was it not truly believed?
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Re: EU slams Israel for its policies in East Jerusalem
« Reply #74 on: December 02, 2005, 01:21:30 AM »
LOL.. you fall into traps too easily...

do some research on Israel Zangwill.  :)
hint: google his name along with the phrase "land without people for a people without a land"



Then look into....

Achad Ha-Am:
"Abroad we are accustomed to believe that Israel is almost empty;
nothing is grown here and that whoever wishes to buy land could come here and
buy what his heart desires. In reality, the situation is not like this.
Throughout the country it is difficult to find cultivable land which is not
already cultivated."

... and check what year that was...

You just proved my point... supporters of Zionism were used to propaganda... even Herzl.. surprise surprise.. some things don't change.  :)


At least they were later able to admit that it was an injustice.. it's the descendants of European colonialists today who won't...






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