Riddle(WARNING:invovles logic).

[J @ M @ L]

lol...Sorry man, this "so called" riddle was an analogy targeted at Jamal. Something to help him get along with reality.Something to point out what happens when you generalize when your generalization entails the contradiction of known/given facts.

Read my sig. You basically exposed yourself. You admit to relying on generalizations rather than facts... but then again, you're a Zionist.. so that's expected. 

[J @ M @ L]

Since you're so slow in the head... I'll help you out...

Yeah, the only thing that's contradicted is that they're PRIMARILY descended

Which is the only thing that was debated  like you said:

The only thing that's debated is if Ashkenazi Jews are PRIMARILY descendant of the Khazars....

MEANING THAT THE ONLY THING THAT'S DEBATED WAS DISPROVED.... 1+1


P.S Non-Jewish groups do not mean Khazar and this is while paternally they still were descendants of exiled Jews(intermix).

1. It is disputed that Ashkenazis are PRIMARILY descendants of Khazars, and the research found that they're not PRIMARILY descendants as previously believed.

2. It was the only thing "debated" by researchers (not us)

3. Then you said it was the only thing disproven... ok fine... so they're not primarily descendants of Khazars. WHICH IS WHAT I SAID AT THE BEGINNING. LOLLLL do you get it now, retard? Why do you even argue if the statements you make basically agree with what I initially stated and only further prove me right. Then you're made to look like fucking idiot... and you come back... with some lame "riddle" to further show how dumb you are.

[I TO DA GEEZY]

up until they had done this research, it was believed that Ashkenazi Jews were PRIMARILY descendants of this ONE TRIBE (Khazar).

the fact that they're primarily descendants is disputed... which is exactly what I said from the beginning.

So was it disputed or believed? LMAO would you decide?

I just paraphrased the findings of a research and it's conclusion.All you do is making these misguided assumptions about my statements' meanings and implications while addressing your sorry "ad hominem"(look it up son ) at me.


P.S Still don't get how Semite genes found among Ashkenazi Jews correlate with the extinction of exiled Jews [I understand that it's your assumption since neither of us claimed this before, (you don't have to bitch about it) but how did you reach it?Based on what?]

[J @ M @ L]

up until they had done this research, it was believed that Ashkenazi Jews were PRIMARILY descendants of this ONE TRIBE (Khazar).

the fact that they're primarily descendants is disputed... which is exactly what I said from the beginning.

So was it disputed or believed? LMAO would you decide?

I know you Zionists aren't really familiar with research and facts (as evident from my sig), but things are believed and research showing otherwise leads to there being a dispute... or if something is disputed, it is researched... it's not a fact that they're primarily descendants, it's a theory... so therefore it was "generally" believed... meaning there was doubt/dispute... leading to research to a stronger doubt... your problem seems to be not only lack of education in regards to such matters, but you also need a better understanding of terms such as "believe", "fact", "dispute", etc... but being that you're a Zionist, I suggest you focus mainly on the word "fact" because that word seems to be foreign to you guys... do I need to get into what the scientific method is, and the meaning of the word hypothesis, etc? It's evident you're dumb, but you really can't be THIS dumb.

I just paraphrased the findings of a research and it's conclusion.All you do is making these misguided assumptions about my statements' meanings and implications while addressing your sorry "ad hominem"(look it up son ) at me.

The argument we had was over the existence of converted Jews. I presented the Khazars as an example, and showed that a proportion of Ashkenazi Jews (which make up the majority of Jews in the world today) are descendants of the Khazars. The only thing that research showed is that the proportion of Ashkenazi Jews being descendants of the Khazars is not as great as previously believed.. since I know you need help, this is implied when the word PRIMARILY was used. This means that my statement was correct, and all you did is argue even though the research just proved me right. What the fuck are you even arguing for?


P.S Still don't get how Semite genes found among Ashkenazi Jews correlate with the extinction of exiled Jews [I understand that it's your assumption since neither of us claimed this before, (you don't have to bitch about it) but how did you reach it?Based on what?]
Your statements implied that the converted Jews were extinct. I simply said that if somebody who's just as dumb as you... or close to being as dumb as you, since you're one of a kind... would use your "theory"... they could easily imply that the exiled Jews are extinct. I said this would be a stupid assumption to make... just as stupid as everything you've said.

[J @ M @ L]

This is what the argument was... not whether or not Ashkenazi Jews are PRIMARILY descendants of Khazars.... all I stated is that a proportion of them are... which you basically confirmed...

most Jews are descendants of those who were exiled from this land,

Is that fact, or a conclusion you have reached? If you still don't know the difference, then go find out before you answer.

It is a fact, and one that you need to know in order to debate on this matter.

So let me get this straight...

-Most Jews are descendants of the exiled Jews (based on nothing)
-It is a known fact that entire populations converted to Judaism.
-It is a known fact that a majority of Jews are Ashkenazi Jews.
-It is a known fact that a proportion of Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of Khazars.
-You stated that "you can't trace how many..."  ... ok fine, I'll take that into consideration.. you can't.
-It is a known fact that a proportion of Jews are descendants of converted Jews... you yourself stated that you can't trace how many... so how the hell do you claim it is a FACT that most Jews are descendants of exiled Jews? LOLLLLL SONNED.


Where are the facts?
Perhaps.... GENERALIZATION is a better word to use? Or maybe... ASSUMPTION?

LOLLL @ FACT.

"It's disputed"
"It's a fact"
"You can't trace it"
"It's a fact"


Come on... you've got to be kidding me.

[J @ M @ L]

I'ma go to sleep now... but give me some entertaining posts filled with your stupidity, so I have something to laugh at tomorrow...

[I TO DA GEEZY]

things are believed and research showing otherwise leads to there being a dispute

up until they had done this research, it was believed that Ashkenazi Jews were PRIMARILY descendants of this ONE TRIBE (Khazar).

Is it me or is there once again a timeline distortion in your statements...lol
You can't even be consistent with your BS logic escapism.The research in this case was the one to end the dispute while before the research there was a dispute (meaning that it wasn't believed Ashkenazi Jews were primarily descended,before the research, but it was disputed whether they were<<DIFF POINT OUT).

This argument started when one of us(not me ) made the claim of Ashkenazi Jews not being "semite"/"descendants of exiled Jews".This is what this research disproves(While proving that even Jews who have "east european genes"\"non-semite genes" still have semite genes in them to go along->making them descendants of exiled Jews).

I'll let Jamal do the talking:

Gotcha. Check the statistics on what proportion of Jews are "Semite-Jews"... and what proportion are Ashkenazi.

                                                                                    ^   Aren't mutually exclusive        ^

You're a funny clown...lol.

[7even]

You guys really found each other.

[J @ M @ L]

This argument started when one of us(not me ) made the claim of Ashkenazi Jews not being "semite"/"descendants of exiled Jews".This is what this research disproves(While proving that even Jews who have "east european genes"\"non-semite genes" still have semite genes in them to go along->making them descendants of exiled Jews).

I honestly can't tell if you really are this dumb, or if you're just playing dumb. Go read my posts and reply to them. If you can't, then just ignore them, and I'll explain everything to the special little child again. The argument didn't start because of that you idiot... go check all the posts before that. You made a claim... and it's unfounded. All I did is present the fact that populations have converted, and since you yourself stated that you can't trace how many of them are descendants of who... then it is impossible to MAKE THIS CLAIM. And you even called it a fact. You obviously don't know what a fact is.

most Jews are descendants of those who were exiled from this land,

Is that fact, or a conclusion you have reached? If you still don't know the difference, then go find out before you answer.

It is a fact, and one that you need to know in order to debate on this matter.

The research shows that Ashkenazi Jews aren't primarily descendants of Khazars. Do you know what that means? The fact that some Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of Khazars already proves my point. That's the only thing needed to prove me right and you wrong.

[J @ M @ L]

This is what the argument was... not whether or not Ashkenazi Jews are PRIMARILY descendants of Khazars.... all I stated is that a proportion of them are... which you basically confirmed...

most Jews are descendants of those who were exiled from this land,

Is that fact, or a conclusion you have reached? If you still don't know the difference, then go find out before you answer.

It is a fact, and one that you need to know in order to debate on this matter.

So let me get this straight...

-Most Jews are descendants of the exiled Jews (based on nothing)
-It is a known fact that entire populations converted to Judaism.
-It is a known fact that a majority of Jews are Ashkenazi Jews.
-It is a known fact that a proportion of Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of Khazars.
-You stated that "you can't trace how many..."  ... ok fine, I'll take that into consideration.. you can't.
-It is a known fact that a proportion of Jews are descendants of converted Jews... you yourself stated that you can't trace how many... so how the hell do you claim it is a FACT that most Jews are descendants of exiled Jews? LOLLLLL SONNED. (IT'S NOT A FACT, YOU RETARD)


Where are the facts?
Perhaps.... GENERALIZATION is a better word to use? Or maybe... ASSUMPTION?

LOLLL @ FACT.

"It's disputed"
"It's a fact"
"You can't trace it"
"It's a fact"


Come on... you've got to be kidding me.

[J @ M @ L]

You guys really found each other.

The guy exposes his own stupidity... then hides for a while... and comes back with some lame riddle to further prove how dumb he is. I apologize to the board on his behalf.

[J @ M @ L]

I know everything might be a little confusing for you... I mean the word fact is all over the place and you don't even know what it means and all... so instead of me proving to you how dumb you are, I'll let you do it yourself... you made this claim...

most Jews are descendants of those who were exiled from this land,

and then you said it's a FACT.

Ok, PROVE IT. Show me that it is FACT. If you can't give me the numbers, then it is not fact... you're wrong, I'm right... this whole thing is over.

[Mr. O]

yes, it's clear that all the boxes are empty. 

several reasons:
a) we know that the boxes were locked before the coins were scattered over them.  how can the coins get into a locked box?

g) who checked the first four boxes?  how do we know that person is honest? if all five coins have already been recovered there can't be any more coins in the other six boxes.

h) there are no coins, and there are no boxes.

For A): what do you mean scattered BEFORE the box were LOCKED.  He never mentioned WHEN he gave you the coin.

G): Why do we gotta know who the person is that checked the four boxes.  Why would the person lie?  4 boxes were opened and no coins.  How can you say  that five coins were recovered?

H): What?  There are  boxes.

[I TO DA GEEZY]

LMAO

Here I'll make it simple son, this is not something that requires 4 posts from me.

The majority of Jews(including Ashkenazi Jews) are semites, HENCE, descendants of exiled Jews from the land of Yisrael.
Out of the total of Ashkenazi Jews, those who have been tested throughout this research and have been confirmed for non-semite and east European genes(alongside the proportion that wasn't confirmed for non-semite genes), still have Semite genes alongside->making them descendants of exiled Jews from the land of Yisrael.
This research came to the conclusion Ashkenazi Jews do not primarily descend from the Khazar tribe based on these findings. Not on the assumed Khazar genes that were not found and that weren't established as the only genetic component of the Ashkenazi Jews that were tested.

Bottom line, my claim was grounded and was confirmed by this research, yours however, was refuted even further by this research. I can see why though,you don't see how Ashkenazi Jews are also semites- and you have proven this. You should do a research on the evolvement of anti-semitism in Europe.

Gotcha. Check the statistics on what proportion of Jews are "Semite-Jews"... and what proportion are Ashkenazi.

                                                                                     ^   Aren't mutually exclusive        ^



You really shouldn't be arguing homie after having exposed your insufficient knowledge on the matter.I don't even wanna mention the fact you brought up the (above quoted) claim to establish Ashkenazi Jews have no entitlement to their historical land.

[J @ M @ L]

Wow you seem to get dumber with each post. Let me go really slow for you...

The majority of Jews(including Ashkenazi Jews) are semites, HENCE, descendants of exiled Jews from the land of Yisrael.

That's not a fact. I can understand... since you don't know what the word fact means, but you have to realize that this isn't one.

- It is estimated that about 80% of Jews are Ashkenazi.

- We both agreed that you don't know what proportion of Ashkenazi are descendants of Khazars.

- The research you quoted from Wikipedia shows that Ashkenazis aren't PRIMARILY descendants of Khazars as was the general belief prior.

- Since the exact number isn't derived... then it is impossible to determine what proportion of Jews are descendants of those exiled.... hence IT IS NOT A FACT THAT MOST JEWS ARE DESCENDANT OF THOSE SENT INTO EXILE.




If you claim it is a fact, then prove it to me. Show me the numbers. If you can't do that, then you are wrong, and I'm right... AS ALWAYS.