Hottest show on Netflix, a good hip-hop doc, great seeing ol school NY and the rise and fall of of Bad-Boy records.

Exactly.   It was great seeing another intimate look at the ol school NY hip-hop moving into the golden age of rap in the 90's.

I think you are being a little harsh on Diddy.  Because you said he wasn't shit in music or on the streets.  Check the stats:

Music:

- used his talents as a dancer to break in the industry, innovative and talented dancer set trends, cutting edge
- was the mastermind behind Jodeci, the dopest R&B group in history, and a group hip-hop headz, R&B fans, men, and ladies could agree on
- Mary J. Blige was considered the queen of hip-hop and R&B and Puffy shaped her style and sound as well
- Made Craig Mack, an uninspiring, low charisma, bad looking, rapper into a platinum artist off the strength of one good single
- Took a fat, greasy, Biggie and turned him into a ladies man and mega all time great star
- After Pac died Death Row didn't do shit to commemorate him.  They had the whole world singing for Biggie and Bad Boy took over the industry after Big died
- Look at Mase before and after Puffy he wasn't shit.  Puff took a lazy, monotone rapper and made this dude the biggest star in rap when Harlem World dropped
- remix, after remix, Puff was blowing up so many tracks and artist, all the hot shit on the radio for quite a run
- "Notorious Thugs" and "Breakdown" Mariah Carrey, Puff was a mastermind putting both of those joints together

then if we just did a run down of all the tracks that Puffy played a role in, from either the style/dress/visuals/music video/stage performance, or tracks he A&R'd like putting the artists together, or actually producing, he was the one putting the foot in the ass of the Hitman and other producers and musicians till the shit came out right, a lot like what Dre has done.

The guy is a musical genius.  Like listen to some joints that weren't even really big hits.  Like, check this shit out here it is fuccin FIRE!!  And this was after his prime run from 94-98.   He got Flava Flav and Hurricane G up in there, he took some shit PE did and Rampage did and look at the visuals with the video, how he takes it back to the hood on the last verse. Puff knew how to put shit together right.



Now to his stats in the streetz

- Father was a for real hustler Pimp
- Sounds like his mom was a hoe
- So this dude was in the streets before he ever started even talking because his parents were heavy in the game
- Dudes been to prison
- Multiple high profile charges, court cases
- Had shots fired at around him numerous time
- His homie straight shot Suge's #1 homeboy Jake for actin a fool at one of their parties, shot him up while he was looking at Puffy
- Pac makes threats to Puffy and Puffy replies with "Bad Boys move in silence.." that's some street shit if I ever heard of it

And I love 2pac and took the East/West beef seriously.  So I always resented Puffy and Biggies rise to the top of the music mountain those were some of the most depressing times in my life I still suffer for, after Pac died and Big became number 1, then Puff went to #1, and then Mase went to #1.

But go back and listen to No Way Out, and it puts Puffy in a rare category that 2pac, Bone's early days, 50 Cent when he was signed by Em, Snoop in his Murder Was the Case era have lived.  Like Vibe journalist Kevin Powell wrote "An Earnest Hemmingway Life where art imitates life and vice versa".  These guys were actually living the shit they rapped about.  How many rap artists shot to the top and actually lived the life they were rapping about?

And we can hate them as much as we want but bottom line these joints are fire and he's actually living the shit he's talking about.  Look here, he took a rap classic "The Message" and he took Mathew Wilder 80's my pre-school field trip music "Break My Stride" this was the hottest shit out when it dropped:



^^you guys act like this is easy.  Look how the guy put everything together.  From bringing in comedians like Eddie Griffin.  To puttin out new styles like wit the Jersey numbers, the sun glasses that reflect, and new dances, and even bringing on Mase who was flipping a different style and cadence on this people ain't really heard before.  And those catch phrases everyone was saying around school like,

"Quit that
You a big cat?
where you chips at?
where your whips at""

OUT, time to check it out

Thread would be poppin if only peoples knew DAZ WAS ON THE ALBUM!

By the way, the DPG song is smooth -

Kurupt Tha kingpin

no diddy?

King Tee, Eazy E ,mc ren, bg knocc out..

EaZy-E?

King T
2nd II None
MC Eiht

Game is a legitimate top 10 west coast rapper.  But he is not even in Kendrick's or even Snoop's stratosphere.  I would also put 2pac and Ice Cube easily above him. 

Don't really see the relevance in changing the original date of this post when any tech can go through the history and see I wrote this in 2015
I even remember where I wrote it (on a public computer at the Gympie Library) after writing it out by hand on the veranda at my Dad's house in The Palms
I guess you're trying to prove something so whatever
Do you

nobody changed the date

it's impossible to change the dates of posts on message boards

youre letting your hallucinations get the best of you

Love Game as a rapper, but the antics get tiring. I'll still enjoy the music though.

Obvious to me he's probably hoping to bait Kendrick into a beef around Documentary 3 time.