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« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2007, 03:16:17 PM »
hes a good rapper who doesnt relly on a gimmick?
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Re: Your Explanation Of Why T.I. Sold Records?
« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2007, 11:44:56 AM »
yall are some dumb asses...use your memories to throw it back a good two years and remember the movie ATL? It was tied into the promotion of TI's album and the commercials for the movie played damn near the whole song "what you know about that?" so cross marketing, timing and good promotion are what sent that album over the top.

...much like jay z used his cross promotion skills to push kingdom come.



the lesson learned today is that even the shittiest music will sell if you shove it down consumers throats.

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« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2007, 12:36:20 PM »
yall are some dumb asses...use your memories to throw it back a good two years and remember the movie ATL? It was tied into the promotion of TI's album and the commercials for the movie played damn near the whole song "what you know about that?" so cross marketing, timing and good promotion are what sent that album over the top.

...much like jay z used his cross promotion skills to push kingdom come.



the lesson learned today is that even the shittiest music will sell if you shove it down consumers throats.


A good 2 yrs for ATL? were not even at a single year yet. diddy's album was shoved down our throats, and that sold as well, correct? ooh wait, NO. think first dog
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Re: Your Explanation Of Why T.I. Sold Records?
« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2007, 02:00:06 PM »
is ATL the movie yall are talking about? I never heard of him being in a movie

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and if you grind extremely hard success will come your way eventually.-Tell THAT to Ras Kass...


T.I. is dope. i don't prefer him over any of the artists that i like but he is dope and his songs come together nicely.
shoulder lean is gimmicky, but not so much in a bad way.

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Re: Your Explanation Of Why T.I. Sold Records?
« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2007, 02:13:15 PM »
is ATL the movie yall are talking about? I never heard of him being in a movie

someone said:

and if you grind extremely hard success will come your way eventually.-Tell THAT to Ras Kass...


T.I. is dope. i don't prefer him over any of the artists that i like but he is dope and his songs come together nicely.
shoulder lean is gimmicky, but not so much in a bad way.

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yes, ATL. he is the star in it. Shoulder Lean is indeed gimmicky, but that was Young Dro's song. I know he's the boss of Dro, but it's still not his song.
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Re: Your Explanation Of Why T.I. Sold Records?
« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2007, 04:32:36 PM »
is ATL the movie yall are talking about? I never heard of him being in a movie

someone said:

and if you grind extremely hard success will come your way eventually.-Tell THAT to Ras Kass...


T.I. is dope. i don't prefer him over any of the artists that i like but he is dope and his songs come together nicely.
shoulder lean is gimmicky, but not so much in a bad way.

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yes, ATL. he is the star in it. Shoulder Lean is indeed gimmicky, but that was Young Dro's song. I know he's the boss of Dro, but it's still not his song.

I wasn't dissing it, it's a good song. Just saying to the people who are saying he ain't gimmicky.

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« Reply #35 on: March 09, 2007, 04:59:02 PM »
is ATL the movie yall are talking about? I never heard of him being in a movie

someone said:

and if you grind extremely hard success will come your way eventually.-Tell THAT to Ras Kass...


T.I. is dope. i don't prefer him over any of the artists that i like but he is dope and his songs come together nicely.
shoulder lean is gimmicky, but not so much in a bad way.

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yes, ATL. he is the star in it. Shoulder Lean is indeed gimmicky, but that was Young Dro's song. I know he's the boss of Dro, but it's still not his song.

I wasn't dissing it, it's a good song. Just saying to the people who are saying he ain't gimmicky.

-T

ooh i know. i'm just saying that was a dro single
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Re: Your Explanation Of Why T.I. Sold Records?
« Reply #36 on: March 09, 2007, 05:03:35 PM »
is ATL the movie yall are talking about? I never heard of him being in a movie

someone said:

and if you grind extremely hard success will come your way eventually.-Tell THAT to Ras Kass...


T.I. is dope. i don't prefer him over any of the artists that i like but he is dope and his songs come together nicely.
shoulder lean is gimmicky, but not so much in a bad way.

-T

yes, ATL. he is the star in it. Shoulder Lean is indeed gimmicky, but that was Young Dro's song. I know he's the boss of Dro, but it's still not his song.

I wasn't dissing it, it's a good song. Just saying to the people who are saying he ain't gimmicky.

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ooh i know. i'm just saying that was a dro single

oh word, +1

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« Reply #37 on: March 09, 2007, 05:13:21 PM »
and if you grind extremely hard success will come your way eventually.-Tell THAT to Ras Kass...
do you know what grinding and putting in work is? well that´s something that Ras Kass hasn´t done, period. he´s a whining little bitch, you aint hear T.I. whining like a 5 year old child when his first album flopped. he regrouped and worked 10x harder. if Ras Kass was working his fucking ass off and putting himself in the public eye success would eventually come his way. but the ho rather whine about his record company fucking him over(how you gonna complain about a contract you signed especially when you´re as "smart" as Ras lol?)and this and that.
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« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2007, 07:51:23 PM »
and if you grind extremely hard success will come your way eventually.-Tell THAT to Ras Kass...
do you know what grinding and putting in work is? well thatīs something that Ras Kass hasnīt done, period. heīs a whining little bitch, you aint hear T.I. whining like a 5 year old child when his first album flopped. he regrouped and worked 10x harder. if Ras Kass was working his fucking ass off and putting himself in the public eye success would eventually come his way. but the ho rather whine about his record company fucking him over(how you gonna complain about a contract you signed especially when youīre as "smart" as Ras lol?)and this and that.

Don't got much to say about Ras, but the T.I. thing was true. Arista fucked him over major, and he never bitched on it. He dropped a few street mixtapes which got him a buzz agian (T.I. & P$C In The Streets Vol 1-3) and Atlantic gave him a chance. It's really paid off. Instead of dissin arista and shit, he proved them wrong, and even takes a playful jab at them on the king album :D
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« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2007, 09:34:20 AM »
T.I. has had some good production on his singles (for the most part).  Some of those beats are undeniable.  So I give a lot of credit for that.  And yeah, he's got a swag to him which is what most of yall look for in a rapper.  I've never seen him as much more than that.
 

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« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2007, 02:45:35 PM »
T.I. has had some good production on his singles (for the most part).  Some of those beats are undeniable.  So I give a lot of credit for that.  And yeah, he's got a swag to him which is what most of yall look for in a rapper.  I've never seen him as much more than that.
he's actually a lyricist too, it's easy to miss it but I was fortunate enough to have a real hip hop head ass head show him to me, and he showed me some mixtape stuff where he was just spittin' and it sounded very different than the radio stuff.

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« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2007, 02:50:36 PM »
T.I. has had some good production on his singles (for the most part).  Some of those beats are undeniable.  So I give a lot of credit for that.  And yeah, he's got a swag to him which is what most of yall look for in a rapper.  I've never seen him as much more than that.
he's actually a lyricist too, it's easy to miss it but I was fortunate enough to have a real hip hop head ass head show him to me, and he showed me some mixtape stuff where he was just spittin' and it sounded very different than the radio stuff.

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T.I. can be a straight lyricist if he wants to. His mixtape shit does show that. Also Tanj, I HIGHLY recommend you check out his "Trap Muzik" LP. A southern classic, and He spits HARD on the shit man.
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Re: Your Explanation Of Why T.I. Sold Records?
« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2007, 02:52:26 PM »
T.I. has had some good production on his singles (for the most part).  Some of those beats are undeniable.  So I give a lot of credit for that.  And yeah, he's got a swag to him which is what most of yall look for in a rapper.  I've never seen him as much more than that.
he's actually a lyricist too, it's easy to miss it but I was fortunate enough to have a real hip hop head ass head show him to me, and he showed me some mixtape stuff where he was just spittin' and it sounded very different than the radio stuff.

-T

T.I. can be a straight lyricist if he wants to. His mixtape shit does show that. Also Tanj, I HIGHLY recommend you check out his "Trap Muzik" LP. A southern classic, and He spits HARD on the shit man.


dope, thanks for the rec. +1

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« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2007, 03:01:30 PM »
T.I. has had some good production on his singles (for the most part).  Some of those beats are undeniable.  So I give a lot of credit for that.  And yeah, he's got a swag to him which is what most of yall look for in a rapper.  I've never seen him as much more than that.
he's actually a lyricist too, it's easy to miss it but I was fortunate enough to have a real hip hop head ass head show him to me, and he showed me some mixtape stuff where he was just spittin' and it sounded very different than the radio stuff.

-T

T.I. can be a straight lyricist if he wants to. His mixtape shit does show that. Also Tanj, I HIGHLY recommend you check out his "Trap Muzik" LP. A southern classic, and He spits HARD on the shit man.


dope, thanks for the rec. +1

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np man. A very different artist on there. Right after this album is when he got a bit more commercial. The production on trap muzik is mostly slow & calm, very laid back. Also not alot of big names or producers. Vocal appearances only come from Macboney, Bun B, 8ball, MJG, & Jazze Pha. He's still got a few fast pace tracks on it for sure. But his lyrics are on another level on this record man.
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« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2007, 04:02:40 PM »
T.I. has had some good production on his singles (for the most part).  Some of those beats are undeniable.  So I give a lot of credit for that.  And yeah, he's got a swag to him which is what most of yall look for in a rapper.  I've never seen him as much more than that.
he's actually a lyricist too, it's easy to miss it but I was fortunate enough to have a real hip hop head ass head show him to me, and he showed me some mixtape stuff where he was just spittin' and it sounded very different than the radio stuff.

-T

T.I. can be a straight lyricist if he wants to. His mixtape shit does show that. Also Tanj, I HIGHLY recommend you check out his "Trap Muzik" LP. A southern classic, and He spits HARD on the shit man.


dope, thanks for the rec. +1

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if you check it out, let me know what you think man

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« Reply #45 on: March 10, 2007, 04:34:15 PM »
first off, let me start off by saying that i am NOT a hater (T.I. is actually my fav. rapper). But i find his #s intresting (topped 06' for a rapper, and still has a 300,000 lead on jay-z).

Why did he sell? alot of theories can easily be wiped away. Some people think he is cheesy and would compare him 2 D4L, DFB, Yung Joc, Jibbs, Young Dro etc. (personally i wouldn't, he's much better then those mentioned). But if we can't agree on that explain this:

alot of that "snap" shit flopped. D4L flopped, Dro flopped, Jibbs flopped. Joc was only 1 who did decent #s (styll around 1 mill behind T.I.) and I *THINK* DFB JUST hit gold.

Why did T.I. sell so many records? what you know was big, but so was "shoulder lean", "laffy taffy", "chain hang low"

I've actually argued this with friends.

what are your thoughts?


T.I. sold because hip-hop culture is now being dictated by a lot of ignorant women, because women are the only one's that actually go to the stores and buy cd's these days (the men download albums).

T.I. is wack, and respresents hip-hop's decline, or as some would say, hip-hop's death.   He has no substance in his lyrics, his style is weak, he was a star in some gay-ass Lil Bow Wow movie or something so it got him alot of attention.
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« Reply #46 on: March 10, 2007, 04:37:31 PM »
first off, let me start off by saying that i am NOT a hater (T.I. is actually my fav. rapper). But i find his #s intresting (topped 06' for a rapper, and still has a 300,000 lead on jay-z).

Why did he sell? alot of theories can easily be wiped away. Some people think he is cheesy and would compare him 2 D4L, DFB, Yung Joc, Jibbs, Young Dro etc. (personally i wouldn't, he's much better then those mentioned). But if we can't agree on that explain this:

alot of that "snap" shit flopped. D4L flopped, Dro flopped, Jibbs flopped. Joc was only 1 who did decent #s (styll around 1 mill behind T.I.) and I *THINK* DFB JUST hit gold.

Why did T.I. sell so many records? what you know was big, but so was "shoulder lean", "laffy taffy", "chain hang low"

I've actually argued this with friends.

what are your thoughts?


T.I. sold because hip-hop culture is now being dictated by a lot of ignorant women, because women are the only one's that actually go to the stores and buy cd's these days (the men download albums).

T.I. is wack, and respresents hip-hop's decline, or as some would say, hip-hop's death.   He has no substance in his lyrics, his style is weak, he was a star in some gay-ass Lil Bow Wow movie or something so it got him alot of attention.

the men download albums. yea, you have the statistics on that one. please don't make assumptions. T.I. doesn't represent hip-hop's death. If anyone does, its Yung Joc, D4L, DFB, Jibbs etc. Some gay ass Lil' Bow Wow movie? Have you seen the film? its a great hood story. And if hip-hop is dead DON'T blame the artists, blame the people who are supporting the shit. This whole "hip-hop is dead" shit wasn't really crackin 2-3 yrs ago (before all the rappers i mentioned were around) and T.I. was STILL making platinum albums
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« Reply #47 on: March 10, 2007, 06:13:56 PM »
first off, let me start off by saying that i am NOT a hater (T.I. is actually my fav. rapper). But i find his #s intresting (topped 06' for a rapper, and still has a 300,000 lead on jay-z).

Why did he sell? alot of theories can easily be wiped away. Some people think he is cheesy and would compare him 2 D4L, DFB, Yung Joc, Jibbs, Young Dro etc. (personally i wouldn't, he's much better then those mentioned). But if we can't agree on that explain this:

alot of that "snap" shit flopped. D4L flopped, Dro flopped, Jibbs flopped. Joc was only 1 who did decent #s (styll around 1 mill behind T.I.) and I *THINK* DFB JUST hit gold.

Why did T.I. sell so many records? what you know was big, but so was "shoulder lean", "laffy taffy", "chain hang low"

I've actually argued this with friends.

what are your thoughts?


T.I. sold because hip-hop culture is now being dictated by a lot of ignorant women, because women are the only one's that actually go to the stores and buy cd's these days (the men download albums).

T.I. is wack, and respresents hip-hop's decline, or as some would say, hip-hop's death.   He has no substance in his lyrics, his style is weak, he was a star in some gay-ass Lil Bow Wow movie or something so it got him alot of attention.

Hmmm, typical Infinite bullshit.  Once he thinks he's onto something (even if he's wrong), he repeats himself.

No, Bryan, YOU and all crackers like you fucked up hip-hop, not T.I. (who you obviously don't listen to).  And that's why you're going to die a horrible, painful death when Allah tells me to bring on the Judgment Day.
 

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« Reply #48 on: March 10, 2007, 06:31:59 PM »
i aint the biggest t.i fan, i cannot trip, pass me some luda shit anyday befo the nigga, just my preferance
 

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« Reply #49 on: March 10, 2007, 08:00:52 PM »
first off, let me start off by saying that i am NOT a hater (T.I. is actually my fav. rapper). But i find his #s intresting (topped 06' for a rapper, and still has a 300,000 lead on jay-z).

Why did he sell? alot of theories can easily be wiped away. Some people think he is cheesy and would compare him 2 D4L, DFB, Yung Joc, Jibbs, Young Dro etc. (personally i wouldn't, he's much better then those mentioned). But if we can't agree on that explain this:

alot of that "snap" shit flopped. D4L flopped, Dro flopped, Jibbs flopped. Joc was only 1 who did decent #s (styll around 1 mill behind T.I.) and I *THINK* DFB JUST hit gold.

Why did T.I. sell so many records? what you know was big, but so was "shoulder lean", "laffy taffy", "chain hang low"

I've actually argued this with friends.

what are your thoughts?


T.I. sold because hip-hop culture is now being dictated by a lot of ignorant women, because women are the only one's that actually go to the stores and buy cd's these days (the men download albums).

T.I. is wack, and respresents hip-hop's decline, or as some would say, hip-hop's death.   He has no substance in his lyrics, his style is weak, he was a star in some gay-ass Lil Bow Wow movie or something so it got him alot of attention.

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