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I noticed one thread in this section about the Murs & Slug Felt 2 album which was good to see, cuz it seems like most of the stuff flooding this area is the same old watered down shit with a different colored diaper. (no offense to g. malone/bishop lamont/crooked i fans but thats what it is, i like it too but it gets boring quick)

My question is, what are some recommendations for California rappers or crews that don't constantly trip off money and stupid stuff in their lyrics?

Is there anyone here willing to discuss this?
 

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Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2007, 08:53:14 PM »
Paris, Zion I, T-KASH, Living Legends, Kam, People Under the stairs, Sick Symphonies, etc.

All of the above are dope and not constantly talking about the shit you mentioned above.

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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2007, 08:54:47 PM »
Well There's Murs
There's Xl Middleton (Black,1st Born,etc)
Planet Asia
These are just but a few, i'm sure others on here,will be able to be bring you up to Speed!!
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2007, 08:55:52 PM »
Paris, Zion I, T-KASH, Living Legends, Kam, People Under the stairs, Sick Symphonies, etc.

All of the above are dope and not constantly talking about the shit you mentioned above.

Yup!!
Forgot bout those mentioned in your Post!!
 

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Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2007, 08:57:03 PM »
absolutely.......i'll just list sum of my favorites that any open minded hip hop head should feel (aside from murs)

people under the stairs
blu & exile (their debut album 'below the heavens' is the best of the year imo)
dilated peoples (and all their affiliated projects i.e. evidence's 'the weatherman' the likwit junkies, dj babu mixtapes, expansion sound system. etc.)
sick symphonies (althought they do have a heavy street edge)
self scientific
psc aka luckyiam (not TI's wack ass group)
living legends
aceyalone
abstact rude
planet asia (the older 'cali agents' era stuff is his best)

...thats just a few off the top.......

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Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2007, 09:00:10 PM »
here's a few more:

loot pack and most madlib projects
rascoe (not roscoe, two totally different artists)
LA symphony
pigeon john
jurassic 5 (tho' i think they may have broken up)
the visionaries

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Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2007, 09:03:15 PM »
I've seen some promo for blu and exile so thats definently worth checking out? i'll find it on torrent
 

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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2007, 09:03:34 PM »
here's a few more:
LA symphony

Haha!!
You Like LA Symphony??
Only heard a few of their Tracks,
and what i heard i'm digging it!!
I saw 'em performin on a Christian Channel, a few weeks back!
Enjoyed it!!
 

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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2007, 09:07:11 PM »
I've seen some promo for blu and exile so thats definently worth checking out? i'll find it on torrent

its some real throw back-feel good type hip hop......im from that early 90's era so maybe thats why im digging it so much...........it really is some grade a quality music, i cant see how anyone could front on it.......u shoudlnt be dissapointed
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Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2007, 09:08:47 PM »
here's a few more:
LA symphony

Haha!!
You Like LA Symphony??
Only heard a few of their Tracks,
and what i heard i'm digging it!!
I saw 'em performin on a Christian Channel, a few weeks back!
Enjoyed it!!
yeah, i was heavy in the LA underground scene for a while......my crew has actually done shows wit sharlock peoms, cookbook, and uno mas in the past........i was really into their early stuff, but i havent heard their newest album
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Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2007, 09:12:46 PM »
I've seen some promo for blu and exile so thats definently worth checking out? i'll find it on torrent
check ur pm's homie
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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2007, 09:22:55 PM »
Madlib [the whole stone throw family]
del da homosapien [hieroglyphics family]
 

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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2007, 09:29:38 PM »
Madlib [the whole stone throw family]
del da homosapien [hieroglyphics family]
yeah, cant believe i left out heiro......tho del and pep love are really the only ones putting out dope music......the last shit i heard from a plus and tajai were 'meh'...
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« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2007, 10:15:03 PM »
Heiro, Ikuestion, Jehuniko, Kemo Tha Blaxican, Delinquent Habits, Tha Liks, Dilated camp, Homeless Nation, man I could be here all day, good topic thread.
 

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« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2007, 10:21:51 PM »
I can't believe you all forgot to mention The Coup,damn. Shit they released one of the best albums last year if not the best,"Pick a bigger weapon".
Their whole catalog is dope. Don't sleep!!!


Most def. I would be hard for most to name some artists like that because they are really not promoted out west other than a chosen few. It's sad because their is really some dope rappers out west pushing that positivity and got real skills and will never get that push other would promoting bullshit.
 

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« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2007, 10:43:24 PM »
DIDO, THERE ARE SOME REALLY GOOD WEST COAST RAPPER, WITH SOME GREAT LYRICS.

I USE MY LYRICS ABOUT PAIN, AND REALITY OF MY LIFE, SOME HARD TIMES, BUT IT IS MY POSITIVE THERAPY. THE LATEST SINGLE THOUGH IS FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES, AND TO TRY AND PLEASE THE RADIO CREW.  SOMETIMES U GOTTA GIVE EM WHAT THEY WANNA HEAR. CLICK THROUGH ON THIS LINK>
 
http://www.clearchannelmusic.com/cc-common/artist_submission/player.html?art=58429&g=1191385068

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« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2007, 10:45:36 PM »
black eyed peas

 

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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2007, 11:11:59 PM »
I can't believe you all forgot to mention The Coup,damn. Shit they released one of the best albums last year if not the best,"Pick a bigger weapon".
Their whole catalog is dope. Don't sleep!!!

your right............genocide and juice was my shit in highschool......boots' first verse on 'fat cats, bigga fish' was sooooooooo dope.......even 'pimps' was way, WAY ahead of its time as far as concept and subject......it applies even more so currently........and for all those heads who only want gangsta shit, there's a track wit spice 1 about being locked up thats dope as fuck too........great album, one of the best from that year, and thats saying alot for the time period (i wanna say 94', 95'?)
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« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2007, 12:47:17 AM »
black eyed peas


big up. BEP are hiphop.

 

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« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2007, 04:04:26 AM »
Pacific Division
Bleu Collar
Clinton Wayne
Fashawn The Phenom
Madi B
Jeff Jones


these are just a few on top of the other names mentioned...search for any of them on Dubcnn.com and you will see info and audio to see what im talking about...

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« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2007, 08:16:58 AM »
I can't believe you all forgot to mention The Coup,damn. Shit they released one of the best albums last year if not the best,"Pick a bigger weapon".
Their whole catalog is dope. Don't sleep!!!


Most def. I would be hard for most to name some artists like that because they are really not promoted out west other than a chosen few. It's sad because their is really some dope rappers out west pushing that positivity and got real skills and will never get that push other would promoting bullshit.

Me personally donīt mind "gangster shit",I remember when NWA came out there was a lot of talk about their lyrics,I had a lot of arguments with friends of mine their "ignorant" lyrics. I was all heavy into BDP at the time,but at the time a realised that I canīt live my life after these rappers lyrics. KRS,PE and NWA all had different takes on life. So from then on I enjoyed the skills and quality of the music. Itīs not what you say itīs how you say it. Take a MC like Kurupt,does his lyrics make much sense? No,but you canīt deny that his way to put words and the way he spits them is dope.
As for promoting these kind of artists well,The Coup was signed to Wild Pitch Records.......
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Wild Pitch Records was a hip hop record label started in the mid 1980s by Stuart Fine and was eventually distributed by EMI and eventually acquired by Jay Faires, who tried to reactivate it as part of his short-lived JCOR Entertainment label. Artists who released records under this label include Main Source, Lord Finesse, Ultramagnetic MCs, Chill Rob G, Gang Starr, UMC'S, O.C., Brokin English Klik, Hard knocks, and the Coup
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Pitch_Records
.....they promoted The Coup pretty good,at the time they got played on radio and MTV.
Itīs more about the approach,right now you got no west coast artists that use this "alternative/backpack" style in a mainstream way,well thereīs one group,Black Eyed Peas,but theyīre hella pop. The rest of them keep it "hardcore/underground",as opposed to the "gangster rappers" wich got whole gang of artists representing in the mainstream.
Itīs a whole "underground/hardcore" scene of "gangster rappers" out there too that donīt get any exposure also.
I think itīs sad that neither of these artists get some shine,not even on this board.
I believe that the "alternative/backpack" scene can get some shine trough Bishop Lamont,yes heīs the one that have sell his soul so rest of them can get a little shine. He will carry the torch,so donīt kill him because he have to comprimise and do some generic bullshit tracks.



I can't believe you all forgot to mention The Coup,damn. Shit they released one of the best albums last year if not the best,"Pick a bigger weapon".
Their whole catalog is dope. Don't sleep!!!

your right............genocide and juice was my shit in highschool......boots' first verse on 'fat cats, bigga fish' was sooooooooo dope.......even 'pimps' was way, WAY ahead of its time as far as concept and subject......it applies even more so currently........and for all those heads who only want gangsta shit, there's a track wit spice 1 about being locked up thats dope as fuck too........great album, one of the best from that year, and thats saying alot for the time period (i wanna say 94', 95'?)

Yeah,that album is hella tight. It came out in 94,I had to check myself,ha,ha.
Their concepts is fucking dope,Boots Riley is tight.
I saw them live back in March or April,shit was super dope. If you got the chance check them out,you wont regret it.






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The Coup
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Coup
The Coup is a hip-hop group based in Oakland, California. It formed as a three-member group in 1992 with rappers Raymond "Boots" Riley and E-Roc along with DJ Pam the Funkstress. E-Roc left on amicable terms after the group's second album, but appears on the track "Breathing Apparatus" on The Coup's third album, Steal This Album. The group is now a duo

History

The Coup, politically radical and Marxist in their music, align themselves with other radical hip-hop groups like Dead Prez. Their music is characterized by electronic sounds and bass-driven backbeats overlaid by humorous, cynical and sometimes violent lyrics criticizing capitalism, American politics, prostitution, and police brutality, among other things.
The Coup's debut album was 1993's Kill My Landlord. In 1994 they released their second album, Genocide and Juice. After a four-year recording hiatus, the group released the critically acclaimed Steal This Album in 1998, the title of which was reminiscent of lifestylist Abbie Hoffman's Steal this Book. The album featured the stand-out single "Me and Jesus the Pimp in a '79 Granada Last Night". The online magazine Dusted called Steal This Album "the best hip-hop album of the 1990s".[1]
In 2001, The Coup released Party Music to widespread praise. However, in part due to distribution problems, sales of the album were low. The original album cover art depicted group members Pam the Funkstress and Riley standing in front of the twin towers of the World Trade Center as they are destroyed by huge explosions; Riley is pushing the button on a guitar tuner. The album's planned release date was just after the events of the September 11, 2001 attacks, and the cover art was withdrawn hastily. The cover art was finished in June 2001; there was no connection between the band and the attacks. The album release was held back as alternative cover art was prepared.
The attention generated to the album's cover art generated some criticism of the group's lyrical content as well, particularly the Party Music track "5 Million Ways to Kill a CEO". The song's rap includes lines like, "You could throw a twenty in a vat of hot oil/When he jump in after it, watch him boil". Conservative columnist Michelle Malkin cited the song in calling The Coup's work a "stomach-turning example of anti-Americanism disguised as highbrow intellectual expression".[2]
On November 15, 2005, Tarus Jackson (AKA Terrance), who had joined the group as a "hype man", was shot dead during a robbery at his home in Oakland.[3]
December 2, 2006 saw another tragedy for The Coup: About two hours following a performance at the San Diego House of Blues, the tour bus in which they were riding drove off the road and flipped over before becoming engulfed in flames.[4] All passengers managed to climb out alive, though some were badly injured. They did, however, lose all of their clothes, computers, cash, identification, house/car keys and cell phones as well as all of their instruments and sound equipment. Since an insurance settlement is potentially a year away, they were forced to cancel the rest of their tour.

Current members

Boots Riley
Since the age of 14, he has considered himself to be a communist:
I think that people should have democratic control over the profits that they produce. It is not real democracy until you have that. And the plain and simple definition of communism is the people having democratic control over the profits that they create.[5]
In 1991, he and other artists founded the Mau Mau Rhythm Collective, a group set up to use the power of hip hop music to publicize other efforts and movements. The next year, Riley founded The Coup.
Riley wrote and performed the music for The Simpsons episode "Pranksta Rap". Matt Selman wrote the lyrics for the songs.

Pam the Funkstress
Pam the Funkstress was a student of the late DJ Prince of Charm. In addition to DJing, she currently owns and operates a successful catering business in northern California. As of the 2006 tour promoting Pick a Bigger Weapon, Pam does not tour with The Coup. Instead, Boots performs with a three-man band.


The Coup resume;


Kill My Landlord
Released: May 4, 1993
Label: Wild Pitch Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: #83
Singles: "Dig It"/"Fuck a Perm", "Funk"/"The Liberation of Lonzo Williams", "Not Yet Free"/"I Ain't the Nigga"

Genocide & Juice
Released: October 18, 1994
Label: Wild Pitch Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: #62
Singles: "Fat Cats, Bigga Fish", "Takin' These"

Steal This Album
Released: November 10, 1998
Label: Dogday Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: #51
Singles: "Me & Jesus the Pimp in a '79 Granada Last Night"/"20,000 Gun Salute"/"U.C.P.A.S.", "The Shipment"

Party Music
Released: November 6, 2001
Label: 75 Ark Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: -
Singles: "5 Million Ways to Kill a C.E.O."


Steal This Double Album (Steal This Album re-release)
Released: August 13, 2002
Label: Polemic Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: -
Singles:

Pick a Bigger Weapon
Released: April 25, 2006
Label: Epitaph Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: -
Singles: "My Favorite Mutiny"/"Laugh/Love/Fuck"





Hereīs some videoīs and audio,donīt sleep!!!!

Kill My Landlord

Not Yet Free
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/-liNf9GEt8A" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/-liNf9GEt8A</a>

Dig It
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/LsUDGxdeICw" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/LsUDGxdeICw</a>

Funk
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Iq8yZHJq3Bc" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/Iq8yZHJq3Bc</a>


Genocide & Juice

Fat Cats and Bigga Fish
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/-v-rIWUAQuI" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/-v-rIWUAQuI</a>


Steal This Album

Me and jesus the pimp in a 79 granada last night
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/OMsEDX9IosU" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/OMsEDX9IosU</a>

Party Music

04 Ghetto Manifesto.m4a
http://www.mediafire.com/?1mbo93mjqnd
09 Pork And Beef.m4a
http://www.mediafire.com/?2wt543di02m
Ride The Fence
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/V6BJeoHilUI" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/V6BJeoHilUI</a>


Pick a Bigger Weapon

04 My Favorite Mutiny.m4a
http://www.mediafire.com/?0tjyy9jdnmy
11 MindFuck (A New Equation).m4a
http://www.mediafire.com/?73njyziwebl


No doubt Tusken, I agree with that you are saying. I guess my comment could be taken that I don't like gangsta rap but I do. I have damn near every gangsta rap album made. I feel like artists we are talking about in this thread it almost seems like PURPOSELY these artists are overlooked. It's like if it ain't gangsta shit, it gets no exposure. But definitely there are some lyrics to be had in gangsta rap. That was why I really enjoyed when Xzibit became popular. All be it Dre and Snoop had alot to do with it, it gave people a different perspective of a west coast mc. But the 90's was big for showcasing ALL of what the west had to offer. Just seems like after Pac died, that shit was gone.
 

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Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2007, 08:23:20 AM »
+1 to everyone dropping knowledge in this thread. Alot of people think the west is just about gangsta rap and that ain't the case. There is so such more to it then that.
 

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« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2007, 09:26:56 AM »
I can't believe you all forgot to mention The Coup,damn. Shit they released one of the best albums last year if not the best,"Pick a bigger weapon".
Their whole catalog is dope. Don't sleep!!!


Most def. I would be hard for most to name some artists like that because they are really not promoted out west other than a chosen few. It's sad because their is really some dope rappers out west pushing that positivity and got real skills and will never get that push other would promoting bullshit.

Me personally donīt mind "gangster shit",I remember when NWA came out there was a lot of talk about their lyrics,I had a lot of arguments with friends of mine their "ignorant" lyrics. I was all heavy into BDP at the time,but at the time a realised that I canīt live my life after these rappers lyrics. KRS,PE and NWA all had different takes on life. So from then on I enjoyed the skills and quality of the music. Itīs not what you say itīs how you say it. Take a MC like Kurupt,does his lyrics make much sense? No,but you canīt deny that his way to put words and the way he spits them is dope.
As for promoting these kind of artists well,The Coup was signed to Wild Pitch Records.......
Quote
Wild Pitch Records was a hip hop record label started in the mid 1980s by Stuart Fine and was eventually distributed by EMI and eventually acquired by Jay Faires, who tried to reactivate it as part of his short-lived JCOR Entertainment label. Artists who released records under this label include Main Source, Lord Finesse, Ultramagnetic MCs, Chill Rob G, Gang Starr, UMC'S, O.C., Brokin English Klik, Hard knocks, and the Coup
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Pitch_Records
.....they promoted The Coup pretty good,at the time they got played on radio and MTV.
Itīs more about the approach,right now you got no west coast artists that use this "alternative/backpack" style in a mainstream way,well thereīs one group,Black Eyed Peas,but theyīre hella pop. The rest of them keep it "hardcore/underground",as opposed to the "gangster rappers" wich got whole gang of artists representing in the mainstream.
Itīs a whole "underground/hardcore" scene of "gangster rappers" out there too that donīt get any exposure also.
I think itīs sad that neither of these artists get some shine,not even on this board.
I believe that the "alternative/backpack" scene can get some shine trough Bishop Lamont,yes heīs the one that have sell his soul so rest of them can get a little shine. He will carry the torch,so donīt kill him because he have to comprimise and do some generic bullshit tracks.



I can't believe you all forgot to mention The Coup,damn. Shit they released one of the best albums last year if not the best,"Pick a bigger weapon".
Their whole catalog is dope. Don't sleep!!!

your right............genocide and juice was my shit in highschool......boots' first verse on 'fat cats, bigga fish' was sooooooooo dope.......even 'pimps' was way, WAY ahead of its time as far as concept and subject......it applies even more so currently........and for all those heads who only want gangsta shit, there's a track wit spice 1 about being locked up thats dope as fuck too........great album, one of the best from that year, and thats saying alot for the time period (i wanna say 94', 95'?)

Yeah,that album is hella tight. It came out in 94,I had to check myself,ha,ha.
Their concepts is fucking dope,Boots Riley is tight.
I saw them live back in March or April,shit was super dope. If you got the chance check them out,you wont regret it.






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The Coup
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Coup
The Coup is a hip-hop group based in Oakland, California. It formed as a three-member group in 1992 with rappers Raymond "Boots" Riley and E-Roc along with DJ Pam the Funkstress. E-Roc left on amicable terms after the group's second album, but appears on the track "Breathing Apparatus" on The Coup's third album, Steal This Album. The group is now a duo

History

The Coup, politically radical and Marxist in their music, align themselves with other radical hip-hop groups like Dead Prez. Their music is characterized by electronic sounds and bass-driven backbeats overlaid by humorous, cynical and sometimes violent lyrics criticizing capitalism, American politics, prostitution, and police brutality, among other things.
The Coup's debut album was 1993's Kill My Landlord. In 1994 they released their second album, Genocide and Juice. After a four-year recording hiatus, the group released the critically acclaimed Steal This Album in 1998, the title of which was reminiscent of lifestylist Abbie Hoffman's Steal this Book. The album featured the stand-out single "Me and Jesus the Pimp in a '79 Granada Last Night". The online magazine Dusted called Steal This Album "the best hip-hop album of the 1990s".[1]
In 2001, The Coup released Party Music to widespread praise. However, in part due to distribution problems, sales of the album were low. The original album cover art depicted group members Pam the Funkstress and Riley standing in front of the twin towers of the World Trade Center as they are destroyed by huge explosions; Riley is pushing the button on a guitar tuner. The album's planned release date was just after the events of the September 11, 2001 attacks, and the cover art was withdrawn hastily. The cover art was finished in June 2001; there was no connection between the band and the attacks. The album release was held back as alternative cover art was prepared.
The attention generated to the album's cover art generated some criticism of the group's lyrical content as well, particularly the Party Music track "5 Million Ways to Kill a CEO". The song's rap includes lines like, "You could throw a twenty in a vat of hot oil/When he jump in after it, watch him boil". Conservative columnist Michelle Malkin cited the song in calling The Coup's work a "stomach-turning example of anti-Americanism disguised as highbrow intellectual expression".[2]
On November 15, 2005, Tarus Jackson (AKA Terrance), who had joined the group as a "hype man", was shot dead during a robbery at his home in Oakland.[3]
December 2, 2006 saw another tragedy for The Coup: About two hours following a performance at the San Diego House of Blues, the tour bus in which they were riding drove off the road and flipped over before becoming engulfed in flames.[4] All passengers managed to climb out alive, though some were badly injured. They did, however, lose all of their clothes, computers, cash, identification, house/car keys and cell phones as well as all of their instruments and sound equipment. Since an insurance settlement is potentially a year away, they were forced to cancel the rest of their tour.

Current members

Boots Riley
Since the age of 14, he has considered himself to be a communist:
I think that people should have democratic control over the profits that they produce. It is not real democracy until you have that. And the plain and simple definition of communism is the people having democratic control over the profits that they create.[5]
In 1991, he and other artists founded the Mau Mau Rhythm Collective, a group set up to use the power of hip hop music to publicize other efforts and movements. The next year, Riley founded The Coup.
Riley wrote and performed the music for The Simpsons episode "Pranksta Rap". Matt Selman wrote the lyrics for the songs.

Pam the Funkstress
Pam the Funkstress was a student of the late DJ Prince of Charm. In addition to DJing, she currently owns and operates a successful catering business in northern California. As of the 2006 tour promoting Pick a Bigger Weapon, Pam does not tour with The Coup. Instead, Boots performs with a three-man band.


The Coup resume;


Kill My Landlord
Released: May 4, 1993
Label: Wild Pitch Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: #83
Singles: "Dig It"/"Fuck a Perm", "Funk"/"The Liberation of Lonzo Williams", "Not Yet Free"/"I Ain't the Nigga"

Genocide & Juice
Released: October 18, 1994
Label: Wild Pitch Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: #62
Singles: "Fat Cats, Bigga Fish", "Takin' These"

Steal This Album
Released: November 10, 1998
Label: Dogday Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: #51
Singles: "Me & Jesus the Pimp in a '79 Granada Last Night"/"20,000 Gun Salute"/"U.C.P.A.S.", "The Shipment"

Party Music
Released: November 6, 2001
Label: 75 Ark Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: -
Singles: "5 Million Ways to Kill a C.E.O."


Steal This Double Album (Steal This Album re-release)
Released: August 13, 2002
Label: Polemic Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: -
Singles:

Pick a Bigger Weapon
Released: April 25, 2006
Label: Epitaph Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: -
Singles: "My Favorite Mutiny"/"Laugh/Love/Fuck"





Hereīs some videoīs and audio,donīt sleep!!!!

Kill My Landlord

Not Yet Free
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/-liNf9GEt8A" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/-liNf9GEt8A</a>

Dig It
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/LsUDGxdeICw" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/LsUDGxdeICw</a>

Funk
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Iq8yZHJq3Bc" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/Iq8yZHJq3Bc</a>


Genocide & Juice

Fat Cats and Bigga Fish
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/-v-rIWUAQuI" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/-v-rIWUAQuI</a>


Steal This Album

Me and jesus the pimp in a 79 granada last night
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/OMsEDX9IosU" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/OMsEDX9IosU</a>

Party Music

04 Ghetto Manifesto.m4a
http://www.mediafire.com/?1mbo93mjqnd
09 Pork And Beef.m4a
http://www.mediafire.com/?2wt543di02m
Ride The Fence
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/V6BJeoHilUI" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/V6BJeoHilUI</a>


Pick a Bigger Weapon

04 My Favorite Mutiny.m4a
http://www.mediafire.com/?0tjyy9jdnmy
11 MindFuck (A New Equation).m4a
http://www.mediafire.com/?73njyziwebl


No doubt Tusken,I agree with that you are saying.
I guess my comment could be taken that I don't like gangsta rap but I do.
I have damn near every gangsta rap album made.
I feel like artists we are talking about in this thread it almost seems like PURPOSELY these artists are overlooked. It's like if it ain't gangsta shit, it gets no exposure. But definitely there are some lyrics to be had in gangsta rap. That was why I really enjoyed when Xzibit became popular. All be it Dre and Snoop had alot to do with it, it gave people a different perspective of a west coast mc. But the 90's was big for showcasing ALL of what the west had to offer. Just seems like after Pac died, that shit was gone.


I know very well that youīre a fan of "gangster rap",fuck all posts in the Kurupt/DPG threads proves that + that your all time favorite MC is Cube and youīre fan of the Rap-A-Lot rooster speaks for it self.
I was speaking to everyone in this thread,the only comment to you was the promo these artists get.
Me personally donīt mind "gangster shit",I remember when NWA came out there was a lot of talk about their lyrics,I had a lot of arguments with friends of mine their "ignorant" lyrics. I was all heavy into BDP at the time,but at the time a realised that I canīt live my life after these rappers lyrics. KRS,PE and NWA all had different takes on life. So from then on I enjoyed the skills and quality of the music. Itīs not what you say itīs how you say it. Take a MC like Kurupt,does his lyrics make much sense? No,but you canīt deny that his way to put words and the way he spits them is dope.

I feel like artists we are talking about in this thread it almost seems like PURPOSELY these artists are overlooked.
It's like if it ain't gangsta shit,it gets no exposure.

Well,we canīt sit and complain and do nothing,thatīs being a hypocrite.
If we want shit to change we have to support the artists/products we value as "dope/good".
The other problem with "alternative/backpack" rap out here is that there ainīt a diverse scene like you got out east,you got to have a balance,both mainstream and underground + some shit in the middle.
The only mainstream "alternative/backpack" act we got at the moment is Black Eyed Peas and they suck,as I said before Bishop Lamont may be the one to hold the mainstream torch. All these other artists mentioned in this thread is either gone or have a "underground" sound. That said thereīs mad "gangster rappers" thatīs "overlooked" too,but I choose or assume to believe that these artists with a "underground" sound ainīt targeting the mass marked.



But definitely there are some lyrics to be had in gangsta rap. That was why I really enjoyed when Xzibit became popular. All be it Dre and Snoop had alot to do with it, it gave people a different perspective of a west coast mc. But the 90's was big for showcasing ALL of what the west had to offer. Just seems like after Pac died, that shit was gone.

Yeah,the west gets overlooked for their lyrics because it donīt fit "east coast model".
Xzibit is a MC,that got a "east coast" twist,while MCīs like Cube,WC,Kurupt,RBX and MC Ren donīt fit in.
Like you said we had a diverse scene before Pac died,I dare to say there has never been a so diverse scene in Hip Hop anywhere as back then. Well,that was back then,letīs concentrate on the future,,,, The future looks bright for the west Bishop,Crooked,Maylay,Omar Cruz,Taje,Jim Gettum.Komplex,Rome,Dae One and the list goes on......

Yes the future does have some dope new talent. You are wise beyond your years Jedi LOL! For real that is real talk.
 

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Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2007, 06:49:50 PM »
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Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2007, 08:10:34 PM »
Shame from the Yay Area is another one with good material. His California album he dropped for free download on a couple of the sites this year is one of the best albums I have heard this year.