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http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1572287/20071018/nas.jhtml

Nas Explains Controversial Album Title, Denies Reports Of Label Opposition
'We're taking power from the word,' rapper says.

NEW YORK — Nas says you shouldn't believe anything you've heard about Def Jam putting the kibosh on his next studio album. In fact, he insists he hasn't come across any resistance from the label.

The name of the LP has changed slightly, though. He's going all the way there: It's now called Nigger, and it is set to hit stores December 11.

"I don't know where that [report] came from and neither does Def Jam," Nas said early Thursday morning (October 18) in a Manhattan recording studio when asked about a Fox News article published earlier this week. The story quoted a "source close to" label head L.A. Reid, who scoffed at the thought of the company supporting an album with such a title, and also claimed the album was not on the label's release schedule. "None of us knows where that came from."

(At press time, Def Jam representatives had not responded to MTV News' requests for comment.)

The MC said he's just two weeks from completing the LP and has done most of the work with his friend and constant collaborator, Salaam Remi. Diddy, Jermaine Dupri and DJ Toomp are also expected to get in the lab with Nas before he closes out production.

"Salaam — me and him have some real chemistry," Nas explained. "He can go from Amy Winehouse to Spragga Benz to come f--- with Nas. The other cats, some of us have somewhat of chemistry, some of us don't. ... [People] shouldn't trip off the [album's] title; the songs are crazier than the title."

Nigger has caused some strong reaction from civil-rights activists since news of the name hit the masses. The Fox News Web site quoted Reverend Jesse Jackson and representatives from the NAACP, who admonished Nas for using the N-word as his LP's name.

"I'm a street disciple," Nas responded, quoting one of his earlier album titles. "I'm talking to the streets. Stay out of our business. You ain't got no business worrying about what the word 'nigger' is or acting like you know what my album is about without talking to me. Whether you in the NAACP or you Jesse Jackson. I respect all of them ... I just want them to know: Never fall victim to Fox. Never fall victim to the sh-- they do. What they do is try to hurry up and get you on the phone and try to get you to talk about something you might not know about yet.

"If Cornell West was making an album called Nigger, they would know he's got something intellectual to say," Nas continued. "To think I'm gonna say something that's not intellectual is calling me a nigger, and to be called a nigger by Jesse Jackson and the NAACP is counterproductive, counter-revolutionary."

Nas said he hasn't talked to anyone outside his camp about the title, so he was upset to see that people are up in arms without knowing the story behind him choosing the name.

"I wanna make the word easy on mutha----as' ears," he explained. "You see how white boys ain't mad at 'cracker' 'cause it don't have the same [sting] as 'nigger'? I want 'nigger' to have less meaning [than] 'cracker.' With all the bullsh-- that's going on in the world, racism is at its peak. I wanna do the sh-- that's not being done. I wanna be the artist who ain't out. I wanna make the music I wanna hear.

"We're taking power from the word," he added. "No disrespect to none of them who were part of the civil-rights movement, but some of my n---as in the streets don't know who [civil-rights activist] Medgar Evers was. I love Medgar Evers, but some of the n---as in the streets don't know Medgar Evers, they know who Nas is. And to my older people who don't now who Nas is and who don't know what a street disciple is, stay outta this mutha----in' conversation. We'll talk to you when we're ready. Right now, we're on a whole new movement. We're taking power from that word."

Earlier this year, Nas told MTV News that he wanted to "have fun with the radio" while making his next LP. That was before he settled on the title, though. The album includes ideas and feelings he wanted to express for years that aren't exactly meant to make you dance or sing along in the club.

"Every time I get in the studio, I feel like I wanna have some fun," he said. "My fun is not doing the easy work. My fun is doing what's me. [Radio-friendly songs], that's easy work. My daughter could do that. My daughter could do the sh-- that's out. I wanna do me and hopefully some mutha----as would like it. At this point, I'm looking at the whole world differently. I'm looking at how politics could really be effective for people today, how me as an artist could be more effective. ... I listen to the radio sometime and I like the vibe of that. I go to a club, and my favorite sh-- is Soulja Boy ['Crank That']. I wanna get down with them joints, but ... [my records] do not come out like that."

On November 6, Nas releases his Greatest Hits LP and plans to put out Nigger's first single a day or two after that. Despite the absence of a strong marketing push for the upcoming album (you can partially explain that because he's been working on his own and under the radar), Nas isn't stressing. He said he can't wait for some big plans to sell the album. He just wants to get it out there.

"If you feel like doing a record," he started to say about the freedom he has in his career right now, "you can't wait till everybody is ready. I used to wait. Now I have that sh-- in me — where it is, what it is, buy it or don't buy it, it's cool. Whoever likes it, cool. Whoever don't like it, cool — but it's gotta come out now.

"Everybody is caught up on that first-week thing," he continued. "That was cool. In the beginning, you want n---as to know what time it is on the beginning of your sh--. I'm past that. I had humongous first weeks before, gold in the first week, that's not important with me. When you have a record that's out there, people are going to gravitate towards it at some point in time if they like that type of music. My albums will move units, but it ain't based on what type of units they move. I'm thankful I sell records, but it's not about that.

"This Nigger album is bigger than an album. This is for my daughter, when she looks back and sees all the chump n---as in the game, she'll say, 'My pops was a man.' When I have more kids, they'll see, 'He was a man.' That will inspire them to be real in their life. Some people say I'm conscious, some say I'm a gangsta rapper — it's just me doing me. I'm stomping in my own lane. I'm doing what I do."
 

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If I was Nas, I woulda put Jesse Jackson on blast and make him feel reallllllll dumb. Sayin' you respect the dude, ain't really gettin' at him. I woulda been like just what he said to the NAACP:
'I'm talking to the streets. Stay out of our business.'

Than to the other cat. I would been like 'Jesse Jackson? Tell that nigga to mind his business for a damn minute too and do somethang for our community for once. Gossip Queen'. ;D     LMFAO!!

It may not rattle shit to us, but to him it will.

I crack myself up.
 

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hmm interesting.
 

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LOL!!!!!!

"what album are you looking for sir?"

"NIGGER!"
 

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"Nigger was the title of Dick Gregory’s autobiography, it’s sad that this is even a conversation." - Jay Smooth
 

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Good to see it's all cleared up; to sum up: new Nas in 07  8)
 

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Hopefully.
 

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Anyone else not a fan of Nas' work with Salaam Remi? I always feels he fails to reach the bar when working with him =/
 

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Yeah, I don't like their collaborations that much either.. Remi did the worst songs on HHiD.. I'd much prefer that Primo album they've been talkin about for forever (duh), or at the very least more stuff with L.E.S., Kanye, will.i.am and chris webber.
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Great idea. Give white people the freedom to say "man I love that Nigger album".
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Re: Nas just ethered FOX news, Jesse Jackson and the NAACP (new album title!)
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2007, 05:06:58 PM »
Or get them back into the habit of owning Niggers >:(
 

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Re: Nas just ethered FOX news, Jesse Jackson and the NAACP (new album title!)
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2007, 05:34:54 PM »
Great idea. Give white people the freedom to say "man I love that Nigger album".


They already have the freedom. They just don't have the acceptance of the black community to say it publicly. I garauntee that if one generation of blacks, this one or one in the future, say it's okay for anyone to use the word and simply don't respond to it when used inusltingly or stupidly, that generation of blacks would be the last one to be offended by the word.

I don't use certain words because they offend people and I have no desire to offend people, (and some words just aren't in my regular speech) but no word on it's own could ever offend me, and no insult by anyone that isn't someone that is close to me could ever hurt me. Live and let live, that's what I say.
 

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Re: Nas just ethered FOX news, Jesse Jackson and the NAACP (new album title!)
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2007, 05:42:45 PM »
I feel you, but the problem isn't just with the word - its the intent behind it. When someone calls someone else a nigger, its because they have the hateful feelings inside that make them use that word. It's less about the word itself and more about the audacity of the person to use it to express what they think. They know its hurtful - that's why they use it.

That's why even if there was a new word made up it would still have the same stigma and the same shit would happen - because its meant to hurt; its meant to be offensive. If someone is berating you then its human nature to be offended. Being able to let go the ignorance of others helps, though.
 

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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2007, 05:44:23 PM »
Great idea. Give white people the freedom to say "man I love that Nigger album".
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Re: Nas just ethered FOX news, Jesse Jackson and the NAACP (new album title!)
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2007, 07:05:54 PM »
I feel you, but the problem isn't just with the word - its the intent behind it. When someone calls someone else a nigger, its because they have the hateful feelings inside that make them use that word. It's less about the word itself and more about the audacity of the person to use it to express what they think. They know its hurtful - that's why they use it.

That's why even if there was a new word made up it would still have the same stigma and the same shit would happen - because its meant to hurt; its meant to be offensive. If someone is berating you then its human nature to be offended. Being able to let go the ignorance of others helps, though.


But it is more than just the intent. If some reporter asked Justin Timberlake what he thinks of Timbaland and JT responds with "yo, that's my nigga right there" it'll make national headlines and black group everywhere would be calling for an apology.
 

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Re: Nas just ethered FOX news, Jesse Jackson and the NAACP (new album title!)
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2007, 07:46:26 PM »
I feel you, but the problem isn't just with the word - its the intent behind it. When someone calls someone else a nigger, its because they have the hateful feelings inside that make them use that word. It's less about the word itself and more about the audacity of the person to use it to express what they think. They know its hurtful - that's why they use it.

That's why even if there was a new word made up it would still have the same stigma and the same shit would happen - because its meant to hurt; its meant to be offensive. If someone is berating you then its human nature to be offended. Being able to let go the ignorance of others helps, though.


But it is more than just the intent. If some reporter asked Justin Timberlake what he thinks of Timbaland and JT responds with "yo, that's my nigga right there" it'll make national headlines and black group everywhere would be calling for an apology.

LOL, that could happen. JT seems a little confused on his race these days  8)
 

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Re: Nas just ethered FOX news, Jesse Jackson and the NAACP (new album title!)
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2007, 07:52:15 PM »
I feel you, but the problem isn't just with the word - its the intent behind it. When someone calls someone else a nigger, its because they have the hateful feelings inside that make them use that word. It's less about the word itself and more about the audacity of the person to use it to express what they think. They know its hurtful - that's why they use it.

That's why even if there was a new word made up it would still have the same stigma and the same shit would happen - because its meant to hurt; its meant to be offensive. If someone is berating you then its human nature to be offended. Being able to let go the ignorance of others helps, though.


But it is more than just the intent. If some reporter asked Justin Timberlake what he thinks of Timbaland and JT responds with "yo, that's my nigga right there" it'll make national headlines and black group everywhere would be calling for an apology.

I never said that it was just the intent, I said that it wasn't just the word, but also the intent.
 

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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2007, 10:08:42 PM »
This is why Nas is one of the real leaders in Hip Hop.  He can think for himself, he's not worried about what ignorant people say about his shit without first discussing it with him.  He understands that black people give power to the word "nigger", and the best way to get beyond that racism is to disarm that figure of speech.  Brilliant shit.

He said so much real shit in there.  Talkin about how his daughter could put out better music than these cats on the radio.  I agree with his perspective.

For the most part, I love Nas' work w/ Salaam Remi.  DJ Toomp can bring some dope shit as well, I'd check it.  Hopefully we'll get a little bit of Large Pro and L.E.S.

I really hope this drops in December, maybe my most anticipated of the year.  He's way ahead of the curve on his thought process and perception of the game.  Cats can't even grasp what he's saying cuz it's over their head.
 

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Re: Nas just ethered FOX news, Jesse Jackson and the NAACP (new album title!)
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2007, 10:10:14 PM »
COURTESY ON TOP, LA REID, AND JAY HOVA.


LOL.  Nas frontin like he aint doin nuttin wrong, Def Jam gonna shit on him for this one.

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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2007, 01:35:07 AM »
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You see how white boys ain't mad at 'cracker' 'cause it don't have the same [sting] as 'nigger'? I want 'nigger' to have less meaning [than] 'cracker.'

god damnit that makes sense

at first I thought the title was lame but I see where he's coming from...
 

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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2007, 03:30:51 AM »
"Nigger was the title of Dick Gregory’s autobiography, it’s sad that this is even a conversation." - Jay Smooth
 

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Re: Nas just ethered FOX news, Jesse Jackson and the NAACP (new album title!)
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2007, 03:43:35 AM »
I WILL COP THAT SHIT

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Re: Nas just ethered FOX news, Jesse Jackson and the NAACP (new album title!)
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2007, 07:30:06 AM »
I feel you, but the problem isn't just with the word - its the intent behind it. When someone calls someone else a nigger, its because they have the hateful feelings inside that make them use that word. It's less about the word itself and more about the audacity of the person to use it to express what they think. They know its hurtful - that's why they use it.

That's why even if there was a new word made up it would still have the same stigma and the same shit would happen - because its meant to hurt; its meant to be offensive. If someone is berating you then its human nature to be offended. Being able to let go the ignorance of others helps, though.


But it is more than just the intent. If some reporter asked Justin Timberlake what he thinks of Timbaland and JT responds with "yo, that's my nigga right there" it'll make national headlines and black group everywhere would be calling for an apology.

I never said that it was just the intent, I said that it wasn't just the word, but also the intent.


And I'm saying that these days it's the word more than the intent. Just repeating the word gets some black people going.
 

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Re: Nas just ethered FOX news, Jesse Jackson and the NAACP (new album title!)
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2007, 08:32:16 AM »
What a lot of shit, he's simply just trying to sell a couple more records by giving the album a controversial title. I don't believe there's any deep meaning behind it at all.
 

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Re: Nas just ethered FOX news, Jesse Jackson and the NAACP (new album title!)
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2007, 09:24:29 AM »
I feel you, but the problem isn't just with the word - its the intent behind it. When someone calls someone else a nigger, its because they have the hateful feelings inside that make them use that word. It's less about the word itself and more about the audacity of the person to use it to express what they think. They know its hurtful - that's why they use it.

That's why even if there was a new word made up it would still have the same stigma and the same shit would happen - because its meant to hurt; its meant to be offensive. If someone is berating you then its human nature to be offended. Being able to let go the ignorance of others helps, though.


But it is more than just the intent. If some reporter asked Justin Timberlake what he thinks of Timbaland and JT responds with "yo, that's my nigga right there" it'll make national headlines and black group everywhere would be calling for an apology.

I never said that it was just the intent, I said that it wasn't just the word, but also the intent.


And I'm saying that these days it's the word more than the intent. Just repeating the word gets some black people going.

 ???

I never quantified which part of the word "nigger" hurt more. Since there's no way to actually do so, I'd assume we're on the same page here, right?