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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #75 on: July 18, 2009, 12:48:27 PM »
how much would the lakers be hurt if odom leaves?

not too badly


kobe, gasol, artest, fisher, brown + andrew bynum for like the first 41 games until he gets hurt again



now

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #76 on: July 18, 2009, 01:24:28 PM »
hey 360, if Lamar Odom is so good, where are his all-star appearances??   ???


i mean you'd think if he was such an amazing player he'd get atleast ONE right?



don't give me anything about double doubles or versatility - because he's the most inconsistant motherfucker ever...THE JD DREW OF THE NBA LMAO

Don't be ignorant. Odom is very valuable for the Lakers. I dont' even care to compare him to KG or other PF, but he is a key player for the Lakers, expecially on the boards and defensively (he's the most intelligent player on the floor, to lead defense). We need him badly. Then you obviously should be fine with KG, but i ain't even compraing them. That's not the point.
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #77 on: July 18, 2009, 01:27:41 PM »
on the subject of it nik
why did ariza leave?  (in your opinion?)

Personally i don't care. I care about the team. And we replaced him with Artest, so it's all good.

The nighmare is replacing Odom with Gooden or Joe Smith!!

those are solid players. But they arent the offense threat coming off the bench that Odom CAN be when he shows up.

Think about your bench, who is gonna be the playmaker?  Sasha? Luke? Farmar? lol. Scary shit...

1) Honesly our offense is the last thing i'm worried about. Odom ain't valuable for that. Our problem is the opposite. It's that Bynum can't defend, and Bynum+Gasol means Bynum is out after 5 minutes with 2-3 fouls, and we need a defensive stopper inside. Odom fills that role perfectly. Every fucking night. Then sometimes he plays well in offense, someday he doesn't. But that's the last thing i'd ask him to do. He's a Robert Horry type of player. He was a key player not because of his points per game, but because of his defense next to Shaq. Solid role players lead you to the win, remember that.

2) Shannon Brown can be a good backup PG.
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #78 on: July 18, 2009, 01:28:30 PM »
Lamar Odom calls Jerry Buss
So sayeth our man Jim Hill, a cool cat with the best hair in the biz.

The purpose of said phone call?  Repairing any bridges in need of fixing after Doc B. didn't take kindly to un-returned calls from LO's agent Jeff Schwartz.  Does that mean LO is definitely favoring the Lakers over, say, the Miami Heat, who have reportedly offered him five years/35 mil (or haven't, according to the Tweets of Ric Bucher)?  No, but it does stand to reason that Lamar hasn't decided to close his purple and gold chapter. Otherwise, unless Odom wants an invite to Jerry Buss' poker game whenever he's in L.A., I don't know why he'd bother placing the call.

A promising development for those hoping LO will stick around. We'll have more details as they emerge.


http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2009/07/lamar-odom-jerry-buss.html

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #79 on: July 18, 2009, 01:29:16 PM »
how much would the lakers be hurt if odom leaves?

I put them in the 4th place in the NBA rankings without Odom.
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #80 on: July 18, 2009, 01:47:05 PM »
i say they're still 2nd to the spurs w or wo
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #81 on: July 18, 2009, 02:00:51 PM »
i say they're still 2nd to the spurs w or wo
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #82 on: July 18, 2009, 02:06:47 PM »
i say they're still 2nd to the spurs w or wo
I'm not NIK, man. I don't react to those nonsense.

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #83 on: July 18, 2009, 02:09:21 PM »
on the subject of it nik
why did ariza leave?  (in your opinion?)

Personally i don't care. I care about the team. And we replaced him with Artest, so it's all good.

The nighmare is replacing Odom with Gooden or Joe Smith!!

those are solid players. But they arent the offense threat coming off the bench that Odom CAN be when he shows up.

Think about your bench, who is gonna be the playmaker?  Sasha? Luke? Farmar? lol. Scary shit...

1) Honesly our offense is the last thing i'm worried about. Odom ain't valuable for that. Our problem is the opposite. It's that Bynum can't defend, and Bynum+Gasol means Bynum is out after 5 minutes with 2-3 fouls, and we need a defensive stopper inside. Odom fills that role perfectly. Every fucking night. Then sometimes he plays well in offense, someday he doesn't. But that's the last thing i'd ask him to do. He's a Robert Horry type of player. He was a key player not because of his points per game, but because of his defense next to Shaq. Solid role players lead you to the win, remember that.

2) Shannon Brown can be a good backup PG.

I can see what youre saying. My thing is, Odom WAS the offense off the bench.  I mean, other then him there isnt another bench player that can create on their own. They are all dependant players. 
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #84 on: July 18, 2009, 04:23:05 PM »
i say they're still 2nd to the spurs w or wo
I'm not NIK, man. I don't react to those nonsense.

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thats not nonsense h omey

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #85 on: July 18, 2009, 04:24:45 PM »
on the subject of it nik
why did ariza leave?  (in your opinion?)

Personally i don't care. I care about the team. And we replaced him with Artest, so it's all good.

The nighmare is replacing Odom with Gooden or Joe Smith!!

those are solid players. But they arent the offense threat coming off the bench that Odom CAN be when he shows up.

Think about your bench, who is gonna be the playmaker?  Sasha? Luke? Farmar? lol. Scary shit...

1) Honesly our offense is the last thing i'm worried about. Odom ain't valuable for that. Our problem is the opposite. It's that Bynum can't defend, and Bynum+Gasol means Bynum is out after 5 minutes with 2-3 fouls, and we need a defensive stopper inside. Odom fills that role perfectly. Every fucking night. Then sometimes he plays well in offense, someday he doesn't. But that's the last thing i'd ask him to do. He's a Robert Horry type of player. He was a key player not because of his points per game, but because of his defense next to Shaq. Solid role players lead you to the win, remember that.

2) Shannon Brown can be a good backup PG.

I can see what youre saying. My thing is, Odom WAS the offense off the bench.  I mean, other then him there isnt another bench player that can create on their own. They are all dependant players. 

Yeah, but we're talking about the 2nd or 3rd (i don't remember) most offensive team in the NBA last year. Without Bynum, basically. To score can't be a problem for us. Nobody can create a shot on his own, ok, but we play the triangle, and when we do it you know the bench can score a lot.
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #86 on: July 18, 2009, 04:25:30 PM »
i say they're still 2nd to the spurs w or wo
I'm not NIK, man. I don't react to those nonsense.

duncan, ginobli, parker, jefferson

thats not nonsense h omey

Check my avatar. It is.

lol  If Odom DOES not sign with LA, they got worse.  The Spurs obviously got much better.
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #87 on: July 19, 2009, 06:35:22 AM »
LO was/is the player that put us one step above the rest of the league  because:

-  1) the bigs rotation is the most important factor in Basketball , especially in the playoffs ... quality bigs and defense are winning ships :

With LO coming off the bench , LA was the only team able to maintain (even to increase with Bynum having such a little impact) the quality of their interior play in every aspect when the bench players came into the game (rebounding , team defense , scoring when LO decides to be agressive) .... what do you think Boston, Orlando , Cavs and Spurs main/1st move during the offseason  was for most of them to add depth to their Frontcourt  ?  it was to be able to maintain the same level of play as LA bigs are able to keep when bench players are entering the game ..

2 ) LO versatility : A top 10 rebounder in this league , an excellent ball -handler for his size , a potential mismatch night in and night out PLUS what work for the other team against 90% of the NBA teams doesn't work against LA because of LO ...

Let's take the example of Lewis ... he was a nightmare for C's and Cavs because Big Baby and Varejao who had to guard him for most of the time are not quick enough ... with LO guarding Lewis , Magic main mismatch suddendly dissapeared .... LO is able to guard all kind of PF you throw at him and does from an above average to a very good job on em ...


This being said, LO shouldn't forget that he did this coming from the bench .... his inconsistency still exists and he has never been able to elevate his game as a 2nd option and was one of the main reasons why we were a 1st round exit for 3 years in a row ... the organization sticked with him whereas the FO could have traded him and move on with a more consistent player.
Now that he won a title with us and we offered him a very good contract , he should accept and show some loyalty instead of acting like a spoiled bitch that 99% of the athletes do.

Last point , some of you are speculating why the hell he will go to another team for less money and less chances to win it all ... well just my opinion but LO has already been a lazy type of player , not a hard worker and got a "soft , very laid back" type of mentality .... now that he won a ship , why not going to a team with less expectations so he can play without too much pressure and relax on Miami beaches instead of being part of a team which is on the spotlight every game and which is expected/under pressure to win several titles ....



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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #88 on: July 19, 2009, 07:05:18 AM »
Last point , some of you are speculating why the hell he will go to another team for less money and less chances to win it all ... well just my opinion but LO has already been a lazy type of player , not a hard worker and got a "soft , very laid back" type of mentality .... now that he won a ship , why not going to a team with less expectations so he can play without too much pressure and relax on Miami beaches instead of being part of a team which is on the spotlight every game and which is expected/under pressure to win several titles ....

I agree, besides he doesn't have to put up with Kobe's antics and his phony laughs.

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #89 on: July 19, 2009, 08:22:11 AM »
Last point , some of you are speculating why the hell he will go to another team for less money and less chances to win it all ... well just my opinion but LO has already been a lazy type of player , not a hard worker and got a "soft , very laid back" type of mentality .... now that he won a ship , why not going to a team with less expectations so he can play without too much pressure and relax on Miami beaches instead of being part of a team which is on the spotlight every game and which is expected/under pressure to win several titles ....

I agree, besides he doesn't have to put up with Kobe's antics and his phony laughs.

Do you think he'll end up leaving?

the FO needs to guarantee a 4th year on his contract .. reports have now made it clear that the final offers were either 30 millions for 3 years or 27 for 3 years + a fourth year being a team option with LO getting "only" 3 millions if both parties agreed to a buyout ... if he gets a 36 millions offer for 4 years , I think he's going to stay , if not he will go to Miami ...




 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #90 on: July 19, 2009, 09:40:08 AM »
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #91 on: July 19, 2009, 10:21:08 AM »
Report: Lamar Odom impasse with Lakers all about a guaranteed fourth year
July 19, 8:01 AM

The negotiations between the Los Angeles Lakers and Lamar Odom have been the subject of much speculation resulting in conflicting accounts of what had been offered and left on the table by the parties.

In Sunday's Los Angeles Times, Lakers beat writer Broderick Turner writes without the usual qualifiers about "sources". He flat out says:

"Essentially, the Lakers offered Odom a guaranteed contract worth $30 million, depending on the length of the deal. Odom prefers a five-year deal but appeared willing to accept the Lakers' offer if they had guaranteed all four years. The Lakers' offer before it was removed was for four years at $9 million a season. But only three years of the deal were guaranteed. The Lakers held the option for the fourth season and had guaranteed Odom $3 million if they decided to buy him out. The Lakers also offered Odom a three-year deal that would have paid him $10 million a season. Either way, at least in the Lakers' eyes, Odom would have been paid at least $30 million with the opportunity to earn more."

And that my friends is what this impasse seems to come down to : a guarantee of employment for a fourth year. Apparently Lamar Odom is nervous about being out on the market in three years, $30 million richer and looking for work. He must be concerned about his inability to get a new deal at the high end of the pay scale when he's almost 33 years old.

We can all have opinions about why he should or shouldn't be silly about all this. But for him to allow the Lakers to have the upper hand at this point and not know if he can get management back to the table with the same two offers to choose from is just plain foolish. Especially after the apparent reluctance of the other teams to put something concrete in front of him that he likes better.

But on a lighter note, Ron Artest is looking to add to his responsibilities as the newest Laker. The New York Daily News caught up with him In New York to play with his boys at home in Queens, Artest said he reached out to his old friend and will again if he can play peace-maker between the team and Odom.

Hey, if he pulls it off we in media can no longer say that he is nothing but a potential disruptive influence.


http://www.examiner.com/x-426-Sports-Examiner~y2009m7d19-Report-Odom-impasse-with-Lakers-all-over-a-guaranteed-fourth-year
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #92 on: July 19, 2009, 11:01:33 AM »
And that my friends is what this impasse seems to come down to : a guarantee of employment for a fourth year. Apparently Lamar Odom is nervous about being out on the market in three years, $30 million richer and looking for work. He must be concerned about his inability to get a new deal at the high end of the pay scale when he's almost 33 years old.


this is exactly what I said.
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« Reply #93 on: July 19, 2009, 11:07:41 AM »

And that my friends is what this impasse seems to come down to : a guarantee of employment for a fourth year. Apparently Lamar Odom is nervous about being out on the market in three years, $30 million richer and looking for work. He must be concerned about his inability to get a new deal at the high end of the pay scale when he's almost 33 years old.


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« Reply #94 on: July 19, 2009, 11:19:47 AM »
^poor nigga gon' get his kids starved in 3 years when his contract is up

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #95 on: July 19, 2009, 12:26:47 PM »
hey 360, if Lamar Odom is so good, where are his all-star appearances??   ???


i mean you'd think if he was such an amazing player he'd get atleast ONE right?



don't give me anything about double doubles or versatility - because he's the most inconsistant motherfucker ever...THE JD DREW OF THE NBA LMAO

That's like saying people are stupid for saying Kobe is the best just because he didn't have an MVP before 07. Yeah he can be inconsistent but if you really cant' see how important he is to the Lakers there's no point in arguing with you lol.
 

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« Reply #96 on: July 19, 2009, 01:18:08 PM »
lol
damn what rankin is odom on the roster of the lakers as far as salary goes?




^poor nigga gon' get his kids starved in 3 years when his contract is up

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #97 on: July 19, 2009, 01:55:05 PM »
hey 360, if Lamar Odom is so good, where are his all-star appearances??   ???


i mean you'd think if he was such an amazing player he'd get atleast ONE right?



don't give me anything about double doubles or versatility - because he's the most inconsistant motherfucker ever...THE JD DREW OF THE NBA LMAO



Odom was snubbed from the all-star game in 2004
 

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« Reply #98 on: July 19, 2009, 01:57:10 PM »
but i mean you cant say that cuz some of the "best" players dont make the all star team, that dont mean their wack
at the same time some of the wack or not as good players make it
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #99 on: July 19, 2009, 01:59:16 PM »
on the subject of it nik
why did ariza leave?  (in your opinion?)

Personally i don't care. I care about the team. And we replaced him with Artest, so it's all good.

The nighmare is replacing Odom with Gooden or Joe Smith!!

those are solid players. But they arent the offense threat coming off the bench that Odom CAN be when he shows up.

Think about your bench, who is gonna be the playmaker?  Sasha? Luke? Farmar? lol. Scary shit...

1) Honesly our offense is the last thing i'm worried about. Odom ain't valuable for that. Our problem is the opposite. It's that Bynum can't defend, and Bynum+Gasol means Bynum is out after 5 minutes with 2-3 fouls, and we need a defensive stopper inside. Odom fills that role perfectly. Every fucking night. Then sometimes he plays well in offense, someday he doesn't. But that's the last thing i'd ask him to do. He's a Robert Horry type of player. He was a key player not because of his points per game, but because of his defense next to Shaq. Solid role players lead you to the win, remember that.

2) Shannon Brown can be a good backup PG.


Bynum is a great defender when he's healthy and bringing his A-game....please dont forget that, LOL. before he got injured (BOTH times), the main reason we were using him was as a defensive anchor in the post.