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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #125 on: July 20, 2009, 05:36:00 PM »
lets say that stands
whos 1, 2, & 3 ?



even 4th best in the league is ridiculous


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SF Ron Artest
PF Pau Gasol
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4th best in the league? LMAO....not even a hater would make that claim.

even without Odom, we've added Artest and now have championship experience under our belt....well still be number 1. the best coach, the beast player, the best 3-man combo, the best system....i dunno how anyone can seriously place us 4th :-X



 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #126 on: July 20, 2009, 05:36:49 PM »
i see you haterz (tha haterz that is) lol
but "dey know"




lets say that stands
whos 1, 2, & 3 ?



even 4th best in the league is ridiculous


PG Derek Fisher
SG Kobe Bryant
SF Ron Artest
PF Pau Gasol
C Andrew Bynum

Coach: Phil Jackson

+world champions

=

4th best in the league? LMAO....not even a hater would make that claim.

even without Odom, we've added Artest and now have championship experience under our belt....well still be number 1. the best coach, the beast player, the best 3-man combo, the best system....i dunno how anyone can seriously place us 4th :-X




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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #127 on: July 20, 2009, 07:42:13 PM »
Ok, ok. Damn you two, lol.

Anyway It ain't even about that. You're all focusing on that "4th in the NBA" line, but those ranks means shit. The truth is that Odom is a key player for us on the defensive end. If you have him off the bench, you can defend very well against phisical C's (like Howard and Shaq) by moving Gasol to the C position and by using Odom as 4. This way, Bynum can play aggressive in the first 6-7 minutes, like he did in the Finals, trying to force his opponent to make 2 quick fouls, and he can stop him by fouling him. After 6-7 minutes you move Gasol to the C and Odom to the PF position, and you move Bynum to the bench. It worked against the Magic. But you can also defend against quick and athletic PF's, like KG and Lewis, cause Odom can defend them way better than Gasol (he's top-3 defender when he plays C and he doesn't have to move his feet. He uses his body perfectly and he has high basketball IQ. Watch how he defended on Howard. But when he has to defend against quick PF's he's a bad defender, and he's often exposed).

He's a key player, like i said.

Just like Artest. Cause we can use him to defend against phisical SF's like LeBron James, Melo, P.Pierce (and he's better than Ariza doing it).

You gotta understand it's all about the NBA Play Offs. It's about matching the best way possible against your opponents. And with Artest and Odom we have the 2 keys to defend against any team. The only weak player on defense we have is the PG, but if Shannon Brown continues to improve he can fill that role and maybe even play big minutes for us against players like Billups, Brooks, Parker, Nelson, Rondo.

If we loose one of those 3 players, we're exposed.

That doesn't necessary means they are the 3 best players in our team, but they are the key ones. You know what i mean?

Like i said, with Odom we are just perfect. So let's sign him and fuck all those rumors.

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #128 on: July 23, 2009, 10:24:45 AM »
Lamar Odom and Lakers resume talks
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By Broderick Turner and Mike Bresnahan
July 23, 2009

Is the table being set again?

A week after the Lakers pulled a pair of contract offers to Lamar Odom off the table, the sides resumed talks Wednesday.

The discussions were labeled productive, but there was nothing to report "at the moment," according to a source familiar with negotiations who was not authorized to comment publicly.

It didn't look great last week for Odom's return to the Lakers after the franchise yanked its offers of three years and $30 million or four years and $36 million, with the fourth year only partially guaranteed.

But the sides began communicating in a more positive light Wednesday. Financial details were not immediately available, though the Lakers were not expected to have improved their initial offers. If anything, the offers might have dropped slightly.

Odom, who will be 30 in November, was a key part of the Lakers' championship run, and his teammates, including Kobe Bryant and Derek Fisher, have unilaterally expressed a desire for his return.

On the other hand, the Lakers are conscious about veering too far into luxury-tax territory. They have already allocated $83.8 million to 12 players next season, which would mean an additional luxury-tax penalty of $13.9 million.

Last season, the Lakers' payroll was $78.2 million and they paid an additional $7.2 million in luxury taxes.

If the Lakers don't get Odom, their options are slim other than a trade. They can sign a veteran forward for about $1 million. They also must decide by Aug. 1 whether to bring back seldom-used guard Sun Yue for $736,000 next season. The Lakers have also considered forward Shelden Williams.

The Lakers have used both spending tools given to teams that are over the salary cap -- the "mid-level exception" of $5.8 million next season was spent on Ron Artest and the "bi-annual exception" of $2 million next season was given to reserve guard Shannon Brown, who re-signed with the team for two years and $4.2 million.

Odom was on the Lakers' books for $14.1 million last season, but will obviously have to take a pay cut. The Miami Heat has expressed interest in him, though the cap-strapped team could offer only a mid-level deal worth $34 million.

The Lakers took their offers to Odom off the table last week after learning he was engaging in discussions with the Heat.
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #129 on: July 23, 2009, 11:40:39 AM »
Thank God.
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #130 on: July 23, 2009, 11:41:27 AM »
Everyone knows he is going to fall back into the Lakers lap, he is not going anywhere.


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« Reply #131 on: July 23, 2009, 12:50:15 PM »
Everyone knows he is going to fall back into the Lakers lap, he is not going anywhere.


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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #132 on: July 23, 2009, 07:11:49 PM »
how much would the lakers be hurt if odom leaves?

I put them in the 4th place in the NBA rankings without Odom.


LOL...wow!


Kobe-Gasol-Artest....the best 3-man combo in the NBA=4th best team? ahahahaha. u dont think you're being over-critical?

easily debatable.

4th best in the west is a bit harsh. But Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Jefferson > any Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Insert any current Laker player here

Id say LA ends up somewhere between 1 and 3 in the West. I would be surprised if it were anywhere below 3rd in the West.


sorry, but  Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Bynum still > Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Jefferson

lol either one of us could argue over whos better between Kobe, Gasol, Artest and Duncan, Parker, Ginobli.  But you having to include a 4th in Bynum...makes your 4 weak lol.  Maybe if I take off Jefferson and replace him with Matt Bonner.
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #133 on: July 23, 2009, 07:16:05 PM »
even 4th best in the league is ridiculous


PG Derek Fisher
SG Kobe Bryant
SF Ron Artest
PF Pau Gasol
C Andrew Bynum

Coach: Phil Jackson

+world champions

=

4th best in the league? LMAO....not even a hater would make that claim.

lol Fisher will be a liability again. yeah he made some clutch shots, but he was a defensive liabilty last year and you know it...he will only be MORE of a liability this year.  You cant exactly call Bynum a sure thing lol. He's still a project at this point. Last year the Lakers had the 2nd best record in the league, and probably would have had the 3rd had Garnett not been out.  Not to mention, if the Spurs hadnt played so much of the year missing key players (Manu, Duncan, and Parker) we would have contended more in the West.  Im not saying the Lakers WILL end up 4th in the league, Im saying its a possibility.  Pretty much EVERY top level team got better.  The Lakers picked up Artest, but unless they manage to get Odom back...I dont think they got better.
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #134 on: July 24, 2009, 09:08:37 AM »
how much would the lakers be hurt if odom leaves?

I put them in the 4th place in the NBA rankings without Odom.


LOL...wow!


Kobe-Gasol-Artest....the best 3-man combo in the NBA=4th best team? ahahahaha. u dont think you're being over-critical?

easily debatable.

4th best in the west is a bit harsh. But Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Jefferson > any Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Insert any current Laker player here

Id say LA ends up somewhere between 1 and 3 in the West. I would be surprised if it were anywhere below 3rd in the West.


sorry, but  Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Bynum still > Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Jefferson

lol either one of us could argue over whos better between Kobe, Gasol, Artest and Duncan, Parker, Ginobli. 




LMAO...holy shit

 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #135 on: July 24, 2009, 09:12:31 AM »
even 4th best in the league is ridiculous


PG Derek Fisher
SG Kobe Bryant
SF Ron Artest
PF Pau Gasol
C Andrew Bynum

Coach: Phil Jackson

+world champions

=

4th best in the league? LMAO....not even a hater would make that claim.

lol Fisher will be a liability again. yeah he made some clutch shots, but he was a defensive liabilty last year and you know it...he will only be MORE of a liability this year.  You cant exactly call Bynum a sure thing lol. He's still a project at this point. Last year the Lakers had the 2nd best record in the league, and probably would have had the 3rd had Garnett not been out.  Not to mention, if the Spurs hadnt played so much of the year missing key players (Manu, Duncan, and Parker) we would have contended more in the West.  Im not saying the Lakers WILL end up 4th in the league, Im saying its a possibility.  Pretty much EVERY top level team got better.  The Lakers picked up Artest, but unless they manage to get Odom back...I dont think they got better.


Fisher was only a liability against Aaron Brooks, cuz Brooks had footspeed out of this world...he was able to guard Williams, Billups, Alston, and Nelson....and now we have Shannon Brown, who's looked nice as fuck on both ends when given PT. dude could even be our future PG......I'm not concerned in the least bit. and yea, we're getting Odom back....PeACe
 

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« Reply #136 on: July 24, 2009, 09:19:00 AM »
and yea, we're getting Odom back....PeACe

Odom, Shannon Brown and Artest. Our key players. I said it. With them we're def the best team in the NBA and virtually unfuckable.
 

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« Reply #137 on: July 24, 2009, 10:11:56 AM »
how much would the lakers be hurt if odom leaves?

I put them in the 4th place in the NBA rankings without Odom.


LOL...wow!


Kobe-Gasol-Artest....the best 3-man combo in the NBA=4th best team? ahahahaha. u dont think you're being over-critical?

easily debatable.

4th best in the west is a bit harsh. But Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Jefferson > any Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Insert any current Laker player here

Id say LA ends up somewhere between 1 and 3 in the West. I would be surprised if it were anywhere below 3rd in the West.


sorry, but  Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Bynum still > Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Jefferson

lol either one of us could argue over whos better between Kobe, Gasol, Artest and Duncan, Parker, Ginobli.  




LMAO...holy shit



wtf are you talking about? Gasol or Artest on our team would be our 4th, maybe 5th with Jefferson now, best players respectively lol  
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #138 on: July 24, 2009, 03:53:12 PM »
how much would the lakers be hurt if odom leaves?

I put them in the 4th place in the NBA rankings without Odom.


LOL...wow!


Kobe-Gasol-Artest....the best 3-man combo in the NBA=4th best team? ahahahaha. u dont think you're being over-critical?

easily debatable.

4th best in the west is a bit harsh. But Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Jefferson > any Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Insert any current Laker player here

Id say LA ends up somewhere between 1 and 3 in the West. I would be surprised if it were anywhere below 3rd in the West.


sorry, but  Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Bynum still > Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Jefferson

lol either one of us could argue over whos better between Kobe, Gasol, Artest and Duncan, Parker, Ginobli. 




LMAO...holy shit



wtf are you talking about? Gasol or Artest on our team would be our 4th, maybe 5th with Jefferson now, best players respectively lol 



LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO


"Gasol and Artest would be the 4th or 5th best players on the Spurs"


anyone hearing this? LMFAO


Gasol had a better season than Duncan, shitforbrains... and Artest led the Rockets to 7 games vs a championship Laker team. youre fucking horrible, i wanna slap u.
 

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« Reply #139 on: July 24, 2009, 04:06:26 PM »
how much would the lakers be hurt if odom leaves?

I put them in the 4th place in the NBA rankings without Odom.


LOL...wow!


Kobe-Gasol-Artest....the best 3-man combo in the NBA=4th best team? ahahahaha. u dont think you're being over-critical?

easily debatable.

4th best in the west is a bit harsh. But Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Jefferson > any Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Insert any current Laker player here

Id say LA ends up somewhere between 1 and 3 in the West. I would be surprised if it were anywhere below 3rd in the West.


sorry, but  Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Bynum still > Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Jefferson

lol either one of us could argue over whos better between Kobe, Gasol, Artest and Duncan, Parker, Ginobli. 




LMAO...holy shit



wtf are you talking about? Gasol or Artest on our team would be our 4th, maybe 5th with Jefferson now, best players respectively lol 



LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO


"Gasol and Artest would be the 4th or 5th best players on the Spurs"


anyone hearing this? LMFAO


Gasol had a better season than Duncan, shitforbrains... and Artest led the Rockets to 7 games vs a championship Laker team. youre fucking horrible, i wanna slap u.

Its always funny to hear you try your hardest to get everyone on your side LOL good luck. Youre still clinging on to your ridiculous claim of Gasol having a better year then Duncan lol.  Apparantely you havent figured out the way stats work, and how the bigger number is usually better.  Especially considering Duncan missing some games and playing less minutes then Gasol LOL. God youre stupid.  Artest "leading" the Rockets to 7 games was as much about the Lakers being mentally unstable as it was about Artests leadership lol.  Put Gasol or Artest on our team, and they would be considered role players in our system. 
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #140 on: July 24, 2009, 04:16:16 PM »
how much would the lakers be hurt if odom leaves?

I put them in the 4th place in the NBA rankings without Odom.


LOL...wow!


Kobe-Gasol-Artest....the best 3-man combo in the NBA=4th best team? ahahahaha. u dont think you're being over-critical?

easily debatable.

4th best in the west is a bit harsh. But Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Jefferson > any Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Insert any current Laker player here

Id say LA ends up somewhere between 1 and 3 in the West. I would be surprised if it were anywhere below 3rd in the West.


sorry, but  Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Bynum still > Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Jefferson

lol either one of us could argue over whos better between Kobe, Gasol, Artest and Duncan, Parker, Ginobli. 




LMAO...holy shit



wtf are you talking about? Gasol or Artest on our team would be our 4th, maybe 5th with Jefferson now, best players respectively lol 



LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO


"Gasol and Artest would be the 4th or 5th best players on the Spurs"


anyone hearing this? LMFAO


Gasol had a better season than Duncan, shitforbrains... and Artest led the Rockets to 7 games vs a championship Laker team. youre fucking horrible, i wanna slap u.

Its always funny to hear you try your hardest to get everyone on your side LOL good luck. Youre still clinging on to your ridiculous claim of Gasol having a better year then Duncan lol.  Apparantely you havent figured out the way stats work, and how the bigger number is usually better.  Especially considering Duncan missing some games and playing less minutes then Gasol LOL. God youre stupid.  Artest "leading" the Rockets to 7 games was as much about the Lakers being mentally unstable as it was about Artests leadership lol.  Put Gasol or Artest on our team, and they would be considered role players in our system. 



yea....gasol would be the 4th or 5th best player on the spurs, and a role player....and im pretty sure u dont sound like a complete dumbass. LOL!
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #141 on: July 24, 2009, 05:36:19 PM »
how much would the lakers be hurt if odom leaves?

I put them in the 4th place in the NBA rankings without Odom.


LOL...wow!


Kobe-Gasol-Artest....the best 3-man combo in the NBA=4th best team? ahahahaha. u dont think you're being over-critical?

easily debatable.

4th best in the west is a bit harsh. But Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Jefferson > any Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Insert any current Laker player here

Id say LA ends up somewhere between 1 and 3 in the West. I would be surprised if it were anywhere below 3rd in the West.


sorry, but  Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Bynum still > Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Jefferson

lol either one of us could argue over whos better between Kobe, Gasol, Artest and Duncan, Parker, Ginobli. 




LMAO...holy shit



wtf are you talking about? Gasol or Artest on our team would be our 4th, maybe 5th with Jefferson now, best players respectively lol 



LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO


"Gasol and Artest would be the 4th or 5th best players on the Spurs"


anyone hearing this? LMFAO


Gasol had a better season than Duncan, shitforbrains... and Artest led the Rockets to 7 games vs a championship Laker team. youre fucking horrible, i wanna slap u.

Its always funny to hear you try your hardest to get everyone on your side LOL good luck. Youre still clinging on to your ridiculous claim of Gasol having a better year then Duncan lol.  Apparantely you havent figured out the way stats work, and how the bigger number is usually better.  Especially considering Duncan missing some games and playing less minutes then Gasol LOL. God youre stupid.  Artest "leading" the Rockets to 7 games was as much about the Lakers being mentally unstable as it was about Artests leadership lol.  Put Gasol or Artest on our team, and they would be considered role players in our system. 



yea....gasol would be the 4th or 5th best player on the spurs, and a role player....and im pretty sure u dont sound like a complete dumbass. LOL!

He would be. I dont know why it makes you so upset lol But its the truth.  Youre fuckin hilarious man. Would it make you feel better about your man crush on Kobe if I tell you that Gasol, Odom, and Ariza were all-star calliber players last year and Kobe was lucky to have SO much help. He couldnt have won a title without players THAT good (like you claim they are lol).  Is that better? lol
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #142 on: July 24, 2009, 07:55:04 PM »
how much would the lakers be hurt if odom leaves?

I put them in the 4th place in the NBA rankings without Odom.


LOL...wow!


Kobe-Gasol-Artest....the best 3-man combo in the NBA=4th best team? ahahahaha. u dont think you're being over-critical?

easily debatable.

4th best in the west is a bit harsh. But Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Jefferson > any Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Insert any current Laker player here

Id say LA ends up somewhere between 1 and 3 in the West. I would be surprised if it were anywhere below 3rd in the West.


sorry, but  Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Bynum still > Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Jefferson

lol either one of us could argue over whos better between Kobe, Gasol, Artest and Duncan, Parker, Ginobli.  




LMAO...holy shit



wtf are you talking about? Gasol or Artest on our team would be our 4th, maybe 5th with Jefferson now, best players respectively lol  



LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO


"Gasol and Artest would be the 4th or 5th best players on the Spurs"


anyone hearing this? LMFAO


Gasol had a better season than Duncan, shitforbrains... and Artest led the Rockets to 7 games vs a championship Laker team. youre fucking horrible, i wanna slap u.

Its always funny to hear you try your hardest to get everyone on your side LOL good luck. Youre still clinging on to your ridiculous claim of Gasol having a better year then Duncan lol.  Apparantely you havent figured out the way stats work, and how the bigger number is usually better.  Especially considering Duncan missing some games and playing less minutes then Gasol LOL. God youre stupid.  Artest "leading" the Rockets to 7 games was as much about the Lakers being mentally unstable as it was about Artests leadership lol.  Put Gasol or Artest on our team, and they would be considered role players in our system.  



yea....gasol would be the 4th or 5th best player on the spurs, and a role player....and im pretty sure u dont sound like a complete dumbass. LOL!

He would be. I dont know why it makes you so upset lol But its the truth.  Youre fuckin hilarious man. Would it make you feel better about your man crush on Kobe if I tell you that Gasol, Odom, and Ariza were all-star calliber players last year and Kobe was lucky to have SO much help. He couldnt have won a title without players THAT good (like you claim they are lol).  Is that better? lol


Gasol has led his team as the only all-star to 50 wins in the west and some playoff appearances. do u really in ur retarded ass mind think ginobli or jefferson could ever do that, retard? :stupid: :grumpy: :stupid: wow
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #143 on: July 24, 2009, 08:17:43 PM »
how much would the lakers be hurt if odom leaves?

I put them in the 4th place in the NBA rankings without Odom.


LOL...wow!


Kobe-Gasol-Artest....the best 3-man combo in the NBA=4th best team? ahahahaha. u dont think you're being over-critical?

easily debatable.

4th best in the west is a bit harsh. But Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Jefferson > any Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Insert any current Laker player here

Id say LA ends up somewhere between 1 and 3 in the West. I would be surprised if it were anywhere below 3rd in the West.


sorry, but  Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Bynum still > Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Jefferson

lol either one of us could argue over whos better between Kobe, Gasol, Artest and Duncan, Parker, Ginobli.  




LMAO...holy shit



wtf are you talking about? Gasol or Artest on our team would be our 4th, maybe 5th with Jefferson now, best players respectively lol  



LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO


"Gasol and Artest would be the 4th or 5th best players on the Spurs"


anyone hearing this? LMFAO


Gasol had a better season than Duncan, shitforbrains... and Artest led the Rockets to 7 games vs a championship Laker team. youre fucking horrible, i wanna slap u.

Its always funny to hear you try your hardest to get everyone on your side LOL good luck. Youre still clinging on to your ridiculous claim of Gasol having a better year then Duncan lol.  Apparantely you havent figured out the way stats work, and how the bigger number is usually better.  Especially considering Duncan missing some games and playing less minutes then Gasol LOL. God youre stupid.  Artest "leading" the Rockets to 7 games was as much about the Lakers being mentally unstable as it was about Artests leadership lol.  Put Gasol or Artest on our team, and they would be considered role players in our system.  



yea....gasol would be the 4th or 5th best player on the spurs, and a role player....and im pretty sure u dont sound like a complete dumbass. LOL!

He would be. I dont know why it makes you so upset lol But its the truth.  Youre fuckin hilarious man. Would it make you feel better about your man crush on Kobe if I tell you that Gasol, Odom, and Ariza were all-star calliber players last year and Kobe was lucky to have SO much help. He couldnt have won a title without players THAT good (like you claim they are lol).  Is that better? lol


Gasol has led his team as the only all-star to 50 wins in the west and some playoff appearances. do u really in ur retarded ass mind think ginobli or jefferson could ever do that, retard? :stupid: :grumpy: :stupid: wow

Maybe.  Which is why I said 4th or 5th. He might be ahead of Jefferson on our team. Definetely not ahead of any of the big three.
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #144 on: July 25, 2009, 03:22:55 PM »
Duncan is better than Gasol (even tho Pau proved he can be "that" good too, expecially since he's younger and with probably an higher basketball IQ and much room to improve). But what's the point comparing him to Parker, Ginobili or Jefferson? LOL. You guys are hylarious. I said it: if we keep Odom we're even better than last year, so we are the team to beat. Period.

Oh, on a side note..

KOBE > GINOBILI
ARTEST > JEFFERSON
FISHER < PARKER
ODOM > McDYESS

It's really not arguable.
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #145 on: July 25, 2009, 03:53:17 PM »
Duncan is better than Gasol (even tho Pau proved he can be "that" good too, expecially since he's younger and with probably an higher basketball IQ and much room to improve). But what's the point comparing him to Parker, Ginobili or Jefferson? LOL. You guys are hylarious. I said it: if we keep Odom we're even better than last year, so we are the team to beat. Period.

Oh, on a side note..

KOBE > GINOBILI
ARTEST > JEFFERSON
FISHER < PARKER
ODOM > McDYESS

It's really not arguable.

First off, Gasol has proven he can be better then the best power forward of all time? LOL. So PAU= a top 10 player all time in the NBA?? Are you fuckin kidding me?? He had a worse year then Duncan last year and that was with Duncan having a down year with the injuries.  And higher basketball IQ?!? LOL!!!!  Duncan is arguably the best fundamental basketball player of all time. His basketball IQ along with his skills are what make him one of the best ever. Not his athletisism.  I hate to put a ceiling on someone, but cmon man. You know damn well Gasol will NEVER reach that level.  Greatness is typically evident from the beginning.

I said from day one you guys were the team to beat.  NIK is the one who likes to make outrageous claims (and u know it) about the Lakers being head and shoulders above everyone lol. IF you guys get Odom back, i think you are better then last year. IF you dont, you are worse.  We unarguable improved and if we stay healthy should be right with the Lakers all year.

As for your comparisons lol  For one, Ginobli is a bench player and > ANYone on LA's bench.

Kobe>>> Mason
Artest/ Jefferson (too close to call) I really have to see how Jefferson adapts. He should be a consistent 17-21   ppg guy.
Fisher<<<Parker
Gasol<Duncan
Bynum<McDyess (McDyess is a proven complimentary big man, but Bynum might surpass McDyess throughout the year
Odom<Ginobli (this is made closer then normal due to Ginobli's injuries. If he's healthy, he's an all-star player if the team started him.)
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #146 on: July 25, 2009, 03:57:50 PM »
this point in careers, id take Gasol>>Duncan.
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #147 on: July 25, 2009, 03:58:53 PM »
but damn doesnt gasol seem a bit overrated?
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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #148 on: July 25, 2009, 04:26:45 PM »
but damn doesnt gasol seem a bit overrated?
How so? He's tall, finally gained some muscle, has good footwork, can use either hand, has good range for a big man, rebounds, has a high FG%, and is a good passer. Despite all this he has only been elected to 2 All-Star games and 1 All-NBA Team Third Team.
 

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Re: Lakers Withdraw Offer To Odom
« Reply #149 on: July 25, 2009, 04:29:35 PM »
this point in careers, id take Gasol>>Duncan.

yeah because Duncan will more then likely wrap it up within a few years. Gasol is younger. But Duncan was still more productive then Gasol last year AND he's the focal point of the team. Gasol benefits from Kobe drawing double teams.  Duncan is the guy drawing double teams to set up their offense.
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